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13:52:27 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13:56:36 <Lisa> agenda+ color pattern. See  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0
13:56:44 <Lisa> agenda?
13:56:59 <Lisa> clear agenda
13:57:03 <Lisa> agenda+ color pattern. See  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0
13:57:39 <Lisa> regrets+ tiffany, Jenny
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14:48:39 <Lisa> Q?
14:49:28 <Lisa> regrets+ David Swallow, Becca, John Kirkwood, Tiffany, Jenny
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15:03:04 <Lisa> scribe: gareth
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15:03:18 <Lisa> next item
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15:03:57 <JeanneEC> present+
15:04:10 <Gareth> Proposal for color.  Done one round, happy with main bulllets...
15:04:15 <Charu> present+
15:04:55 <Gareth> Tried to avoid specifics on colour as this has many many variables.
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15:05:47 <Gareth> We focus on advise over testability.
15:06:12 <Gareth> ^^ Advice
15:06:28 <Gareth> Rashmi shares screen and leads...
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15:07:07 <Rain> present+
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15:07:44 <rashmi> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.25ug0gct5wb0 color pattern
15:08:05 <Gareth> New pattern name: Use color to aid orientation and focus
15:08:40 <Gareth> bullets agreed upon, now zoom in on wording
15:10:17 <Gareth> Rashmi to cover bullets then go over examples
15:14:05 <Lisa> q?
15:14:42 <Rain> +1 to high saturation as something to potentially include separately
15:14:49 <Rain> separate from emotion
15:14:56 <Rain> q+
15:15:11 <Lisa> ack next
15:15:59 <Charli> +1 to high saturation causing attentional issues
15:19:19 <Gareth> Visual processing as opposed to poor vision (photo sensitivity)
15:21:02 <Rain> +1 to having both in there as you do now
15:21:21 <Gareth>  In addition high saturation colors and contrast can cause adverse reactions for people with photosensitivity.
15:21:53 <Charli> Note to Lisa - please state explicitly when you want peole to use the queue vs when you want them to respond without using the queue.
15:24:30 <Gareth> q+
15:25:14 <Jan> I think we could still benefit from live examples of existing sites so that we have something to use as an example for what will be built by a graphic artist
15:25:46 <Lisa> ack next
15:27:10 <Gareth> Gareth offers some of his graphics skills to assist.
15:28:38 <Jan> q+
15:29:48 <Rain> q+
15:29:59 <Lisa> ack next
15:31:01 <Jan> q-
15:31:34 <Gareth> Jan mentions one of the suggestions from the community group regarding the numbers of colors used.  Cognitive load.
15:31:46 <Lisa> ack next
15:33:27 <Gareth> Rain mentions a couple of issues with color: 1. contrast too small for AA (examples can pass and still be accessible). 2. observed that the color was too subtle, struggled to see colors.
15:33:40 <Lisa> ack next
15:33:54 <Jan> +1 to Rain's comments that we need to make sure the use of color meets WCAG - the community group had the same concerns
15:35:10 <Charu> +1 to use of colors to meet WCAG
15:39:23 <Lisa> ack next
15:43:03 <Rain> q+
15:44:16 <Lisa> ack next
15:44:53 <LenB> q+
15:47:07 <Lisa>  Confirming identities. Use color codes to confirm identities of people, groups, or collections. This helps build confidence that the user knows who they are talking to, or that they are looking at the correct tasks.  Care is needed not to associate a bias of an algorithm.
15:48:22 <Lisa> When specific and intentional,  color codes can be used effectively to  confirm identities of people, groups, or collections. This helps build confidence that the user knows who they are talking to, or that they are looking at the correct tasks.  Care is needed not to associate a bias of an algorithm.
15:48:43 <LenB> +1
15:48:57 <Lisa> +1
15:49:01 <rashmi> +1
15:49:02 <Gareth> +1
15:49:03 <Charu> +1
15:49:06 <Rain> +1
15:49:10 <Jan> +1
15:50:04 <Lisa> remove example because of overuse issues
15:51:02 <Lisa> ack next
15:55:21 <Lisa> Q+
15:57:51 <Lisa> ack next
16:00:44 <Jan> There is an internationalization community group meeting on Wednesday at 9:00 Eastern.
16:01:12 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:01:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/30-coga-minutes.html Lisa
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