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12:01:26 <caribou> zakim, this is data shapes
12:01:26 <Zakim> got it, caribou
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12:01:34 <caribou> zakim, start meeting
12:01:34 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
12:01:36 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), caribou
12:01:56 <ajnelson-nist> present+
12:01:59 <caribou> Meeting: Data Shapes WG weekly teleconference
12:02:02 <David> present+
12:02:03 <caribou> present+
12:02:06 <bergos> present+
12:02:07 <simonstey> present
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12:02:12 <caribou> scribe: simonstey
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12:02:59 <simonstey> topic: TPAC 2025
12:03:11 <ajnelson-nist> q+
12:03:13 <simonstey> elianaP: TPAC will be in Japan this year, and happen in november
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12:04:15 <simonstey> caribou:  TPAC is the annual all-group meeting. It's an opportunity to meet other working groups.
12:04:26 <simonstey> ...  It's organized over a week. Working groups usually choose either Monday-Tuesday or Thursday-Friday as the two days they want to meet.
12:04:35 <simonstey> ... The Wednesday is the 'T' of TPAC, the technical day, where there are breakouts on all kinds of topics.
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12:04:46 <simonstey> ... You can learn things about what's done in other groups,
12:05:10 <simonstey> ... hybrid is actually quite nice, with the cameras tracking who's speaking
12:05:46 <simonstey> ... will be in Kobe; the question is whether we want to meet there; we need to give the organizers an update by end of this week
12:05:56 <simonstey> ... will the RDF working group meet there?
12:06:00 <simonstey> TallTed?
12:06:24 <simonstey> TallTed: I believe we are planning to meet, I won't be there physically though
12:07:28 <simonstey> elianaP: are there people interested in attending?
12:07:46 <simonstey> jeswr: I'll be there, as ISWC is happening the week before in Nara
12:08:22 <caribou> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-meetings/issues
12:08:25 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: is there a list of all the active groups at W3C right now?
12:08:40 <ajnelson-nist> ack me
12:09:01 <TallTed> lists of active groups -- https://www.w3.org/groups/
12:09:11 <caribou> https://www.w3.org/groups/wg/
12:10:01 <simonstey> caribou:  If you look at them, they are quite recent, so working groups tend to wait until the deadline to answer.
12:10:13 <simonstey> ... So, we don't know for sure which groups we are able to meet with unless we talk to their chairs directly.
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12:11:43 <simonstey> ... we might also have community groups there. Interest groups and community groups can also request some time, but usually not the whole two days that working groups require.
12:11:57 <simonstey> elianaP:  I'm not sure if there are any other groups, other than the RDF group, that we should be interfacing with in November. I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
12:12:15 <simonstey> David: There are also updates on SPARQL, right? Is that somehow covered in the RDF group already, or...?
12:12:27 <simonstey> caribou:  I think so. It's the RDF and SPARQL Working Group, so it's included in their charter. This is the same group.
12:12:39 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist:  If you wanted to think about groups using SHACL, there is the Dataset Exchange Working Group.
12:13:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/16-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:13:34 <simonstey> ajnelson-nist: A U.S. Government adaptation of DCAT uses SHACL, but I don't know if the DCAT3 non-US version uses SHACL directly.
12:13:45 <simonstey> caribou:  I'm not sure about the Dataset Exchange Working Group because their charter is expiring. I'm unaware of their renewal status.
12:13:53 <TallTed> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/06/09-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:13:53 <TallTed> next meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/06/23-data-shapes-minutes.html
12:14:12 <caribou> RRSagent, make minutes
12:14:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/16-data-shapes-minutes.html caribou
12:14:23 <simonstey> simonstey: all meetings happening now at 2pm CEST
12:14:23 <TallTed> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-06-16.md
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12:15:17 <caribou> agendabot, stop
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12:15:49 <agendabot> caribou, sorry, I don't understand "stop". Try "agendabot, help".
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12:16:02 <TallTed> clear agenda
12:16:13 <caribou> agendabot, bye
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12:16:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/16-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
12:16:27 <caribou> zakim, clear agenda
12:16:27 <Zakim> agenda cleared
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12:18:23 <caribou> Agendabot does not know how to scrape agendas from a GH page, it seems
12:24:51 <TallTed> yeah. it did a better job not long ago. I just wanted RRSAgent to pick up the link. next time I'll `i/...` which doesn't trigger agendabot.
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12:32:31 <caribou> you can use the -> syntax as well
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13:58:47 <TallTed> present+
13:59:03 <TallTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:59:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/16-data-shapes-minutes.html TallTed
13:59:15 <TallTed> Zakim, bye
13:59:15 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been ajnelson-nist, David, caribou, bergos, simonstey, TallTed
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13:59:19 <TallTed> RRSAgent, bye
13:59:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items