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14:42:24 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:52:08 <Lisa> agenda+  Updates
14:52:16 <Lisa> agenda+ color patern
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14:53:16 <Lisa> draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.25ug0gct5wb0
14:53:24 <Lisa> regrets: Jan, Rain
14:53:55 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
14:53:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/09-coga-minutes.html Lisa
14:54:04 <Lisa> q?
14:57:53 <Lisa> agenda+ coga comunity feedback at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VsHS-oQDR7XY87E91sd-zqYaq8DCH9Ppwf9YeqCNcks/edit?tab=t.aohwqsygorkh#heading=h.wx0q0lgy9s3i
15:00:29 <rashmi> present+
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15:05:34 <Gareth> Lisa starts the meeting
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15:06:37 <JeanneEC> present+
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15:07:20 <Jennie> present+
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15:08:27 <Gareth> Lisa mentions updating the agenda for next week with Charli (regarding clarity)
15:08:39 <Becca_Monteleone> present+
15:11:07 <Gareth> Charli raises some concerns of overwhelm regarding meetings.  Lisa confirms agenda update.
15:11:34 <Lisa> next item
15:11:58 <Gareth> gslinn@gmail.com
15:12:02 <Lisa> close item
15:12:36 <Lisa> next item
15:13:00 <Lisa> draft: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.25ug0gct5wb0
15:13:41 <rashmi> Color pattern https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CeqiSy3tVDoeBzCG8LpkyFT1fvugGk86JuT6NvfSiAA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.25ug0gct5wb0
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15:13:47 <Gareth> Lisa shares her screen regarding Rashmi's draft : Color
15:14:57 <rashmi> New pattern name: Use color to aid orientation and focus
15:15:16 <Gareth> Good and bad colors are subjective. e.g. Red is bad but good in some cultures.
15:15:22 <kirkwood> present+
15:16:13 <Gareth>  For example, use colors to differentiate between different subsites and sections.
15:17:23 <Gareth> what to do: how not to dictate to designers etc...
15:19:23 <Gareth> Rashmi covers the section on : Use color to aid orientation This includes
15:19:59 <Gareth> 2. Focusing attention to the key task. For example Use color to help users find the content they are looking for or need (also called findability).
15:20:39 <Gareth> 3. Do not overload the use of color which can cause cognitive overload or difficulty focusing
15:20:49 <Gareth> 4. Color can affect emotions. Do not alarm users or cause anxiety by using stressful colors when there is no risk to the users wellbeing or safety.
15:21:02 <Gareth> 5. Use a strong contrast for icons, controls and text
15:21:10 <Gareth> 6. Do support personalization of colors
15:22:04 <Lisa> Q?
15:23:54 <Charli> Here's a resource about culture and color: https://eriksen.com/marketing/color_culture/
15:24:08 <Gareth> John discusses color and the effect on culture
15:24:35 <Becca_Monteleone> +1 to this approach
15:24:40 <Lisa> John realy liked the aprouch
15:24:43 <Gareth> He really liked the approach
15:25:47 <Gareth> Gareth thanks Charli for the culture and color reference
15:26:15 <Charli> It may not be the best or most comprehensive reference, but it's pretty good. :-)
15:26:27 <Charli> q+ color and safety and trust
15:26:46 <Charli> q+ color, trust
15:26:54 <Becca_Monteleone> I appreciate John's point about color as related to a brand/organization as a signal that you are on the right webpage.
15:27:01 <Jennie> q+
15:27:19 <Lisa> Ack next
15:27:40 <Lisa> q+ to say trust is complex to state
15:27:50 <kirkwood> color localization and trust and safety should be surfaced potentially
15:27:57 <kirkwood> color for wayfinding!
15:28:27 <tiffanyburtin> q+
15:28:33 <Gareth> Charli discusses her personal feelings about colourful way finding
15:28:44 <Gareth> and life experience
15:28:56 <Lisa> ack next
15:30:45 <tiffanyburtin> Branding recognition and consistancy
15:30:56 <Gareth> Jennie discusses how color and expectation effect perception
15:31:06 <Lisa> ack next
15:31:17 <Lisa> ack next
15:31:18 <Zakim> Lisa, you wanted to say trust is complex to state
15:31:48 <Lisa> q+
15:32:38 <Gareth> Tiffany discusses her experience with color theory.  How this can be problematic.
15:32:54 <kirkwood> yes!
15:33:27 <Gareth> Color associations by regions
15:35:26 <rashmi> q+
15:35:34 <Gareth> q+
15:36:45 <Gareth> color branding sections of a site.
15:36:52 <kirkwood> Can we get Tiffany’s AI assisted analysis on record? It’s very good.
15:37:48 <kirkwood> [in a shared google doc possibly]
15:38:32 <Lisa> ack next
15:38:39 <Lisa> q-
15:38:44 <Lisa> ack next
15:39:23 <Gareth> Rashi asks if color helps with validation?
15:40:01 <Gareth> a types of "human" validation - Jennie
15:40:05 <kirkwood> well said. human issue
15:40:35 <Gareth> q+
15:42:54 <Lisa> ack next
15:43:17 <kirkwood> q?
15:45:02 <Gareth> Gareth: brings up not using color alone to highlight a point, area etc
15:46:07 <Jennie> q+
15:46:19 <tiffanyburtin> John I put the AI assisted overview in another tab in the Suggestions for the next version of Making Content Usable so we do not lose the information. I have made a note that all the information should be validated by a human.
15:47:11 <Jennie> q-
15:48:09 <tiffanyburtin> q+
15:48:15 <Lisa> ack next
15:49:07 <Gareth> Tiffany mentions she always human verifies chatgpt research
15:49:29 <kirkwood> I like the tab
15:50:56 <Lisa> resolution on the bulet points (masy need more editing)
15:51:03 <tiffanyburtin> +1 I like the bullet points and feel it is a good start
15:51:08 <Gareth> +1
15:51:16 <Charli> q+
15:51:19 <Becca_Monteleone> +1
15:51:50 <Lisa> ack next
15:53:05 <Jennie> q+ for question for John
15:55:09 <Gareth> Lisa clarifies that we are not dictating what colors to use, its merely a guide
15:55:19 <Lisa> ack next
15:55:20 <Zakim> Jennie, you wanted to discuss question for John
15:57:10 <Gareth> Clarification over Orientation in a site
15:57:59 <Gareth> Document updated
16:01:07 <Gareth> We like the bullets but undecided on "Identity"
16:02:11 <tiffanyburtin> I believe that Identity can be established by consistency of use of colors and it is one aspect of validating an identity.
16:02:25 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
16:02:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/06/09-coga-minutes.html Lisa