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13:40:39 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:40:49 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:41:02 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b7edae68-f52c-4aab-a1a6-3c37459e0786/20250529T150000/
13:41:02 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:41:02 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:41:02 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:41:04 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:41:06 <agendabot> agenda+ Review Radar
13:41:08 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issues
13:41:11 <agendabot> agenda+ Specdev isomorphic string review
13:41:13 <agendabot> agenda+ I18N Glossary definition of 'glyph'
13:41:16 <agendabot> agenda+ I18N Glossary next steps
13:41:18 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:41:35 <addison> agenda+ BCP 47 Extension T in the Choosing a Language Tag article (Fuqiao)
13:41:53 <addison> agenda+ Sequences with variation selectors in string-search (Fuqiao)
13:42:32 <addison> agenda+ Language Negotiation
13:42:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/29-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:58:25 <addison> present+
13:58:30 <addison> regrets+ Atsushi
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14:00:12 <addison> present+ Fuqiao
14:03:43 <addison> present+ JcK
14:04:34 <xfq> scribe+
14:04:34 <addison> regrets+ Bert
14:04:44 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:04:44 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:04:46 <addison> agenda?
14:05:20 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:05:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:05:38 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
14:06:13 <addison> #170
14:06:14 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/170 -> Action 170  reserve two days worth of meetings at tpac (on aphillips) due 2025-05-22
14:06:20 <addison> close #170
14:06:22 <gb> Closed -> issue #170 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/170
14:06:34 <addison> #168
14:06:34 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/168 -> Action 168  add instructions on dark mode to i18n-editors (on xfq) due 2025-05-01
14:06:38 <addison> close #168
14:06:40 <gb> Closed -> issue #168 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/168
14:06:45 <xfq> xfq: did #168
14:07:17 <addison> zakim, take up agendum
14:07:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up agendum', addison
14:07:25 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:07:26 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:07:39 <xfq> addison: I attended the ARIA planning call
14:07:49 <xfq> ... to talk about their aria key shortcut
14:07:58 <xfq> ... which was an open issue that we had
14:08:12 <xfq> ... after reviewing with them I agree that their text was probably fine
14:08:24 <xfq> ... they don't need to do anything about the issue
14:08:31 <addison> agenda?
14:09:09 <xfq> WebNN to Completed
14:09:56 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
14:09:56 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- BCP 47 Extension T in the Choosing a Language Tag article (Fuqiao) -- taken up [from addison]
14:10:07 <addison> fuqiao: richard gave me some suggestion
14:10:16 <addison> ... any suggestions?
14:10:37 <xfq> addison: I had some different ideas to suggest
14:11:07 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/658/files
14:11:08 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/658 -> Pull Request 658 Mention BCP 47 Extension T (by xfq)
14:11:25 <xfq> ... you're trying to mention mention the thing and give an example but you're not trying to write an exhaustive treaties on the thing
14:14:50 <xfq> addison: at least give a tag that one would actually use
14:15:27 <xfq> r12a: ja-t-it is a very rarely used thing
14:15:35 <xfq> ... and it's very vague as to what it means
14:15:49 <xfq> ... so I suggested that xfq uses a transcription
14:16:04 <xfq> ... like uk-Latn-t-uk-cyrl
14:16:16 <xfq> ... and there's the m0 stuff
14:16:31 <xfq> ... which could be used if you want to specify which transcription
14:16:51 <addison> https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/dev/tr35.html#unicode-bcp-47-t-extension
14:16:59 <xfq> addison: I'd almost point at the section in TR35, but that's not super clear either
14:18:01 <addison> agenda?
14:18:05 <xfq> xfq: TR35 is not easy to understand
14:18:51 <addison> https://deploy-preview-80--i18n-glossary.netlify.app/#g
14:19:19 <xfq> addison: 'glyph' definition
14:19:45 <xfq> ... I intend to use the same definition in specdev
14:23:15 <xfq> xfq: "You can think of a font as a collection of glyphs." is not accurate
14:23:28 <xfq> ... also includes encoding information, hinting instructions, etc.
14:24:15 <xfq> ... and metrics (kerning, ascenders/descenders, etc.)
14:25:57 <xfq> [Discuss the Unicode code point styling]
14:29:42 <xfq> addison: base.css has Unicode code point styling, and this file has it too
14:29:48 <xfq> ... I'll find and eradicate that
14:31:19 <addison> agenda?
14:31:38 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 11
14:31:38 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Sequences with variation selectors in string-search (Fuqiao) -- taken up [from addison]
14:31:49 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/24
14:31:50 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/string-search/pull/24 -> Pull Request 24 Sequences with variation selectors (by xfq)
14:32:37 <xfq> https://deploy-preview-24--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/#variation-selectors
14:32:38 <r12a> https://deploy-preview-24--w3c-string-search.netlify.app/#variation-selectors
14:33:48 <xfq> r12a: you're using graphics for the character code names, you should use the large size rather than the small size for VS17 and VS 18
14:34:05 <xfq> xfq: do you have a link to the large size images?
14:34:13 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:34:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/29-i18n-minutes.html xfq
14:34:40 <xfq> Variation Selectors Supplement block
14:35:18 <r12a> https://r12a.github.io/c/Variation_Selectors_Supplement/large/E0100.png
14:37:41 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/blob/gh-pages/articles/language-negotiation/language-negotiation.md
14:38:07 <xfq> addison: one more piece of homework
14:38:20 <xfq> ... I'd like to finish off the language negotiation thing
14:39:01 <xfq> addison: I'm a member of Unicode's Technical Coordinating Group
14:39:14 <xfq> ... the TCG is considering how to reorganize the specs that Unicode produces
14:39:37 <xfq> ... historically they've been technical reports stored on /reports on the Unicode website
14:40:16 <xfq> ... what would make sense from our perspective wrt referring to Unicode standards if there were more than just the character encoding related ones in the report space
14:40:37 <xfq> ... you can think of this like IETF I-Ds and RFCs and BCP and STD etc.
14:40:46 <xfq> r12a: are these the UAX documents?
14:41:01 <xfq> addison: UAXs, UTSs, and others
14:41:28 <xfq> ... should they all be UTSs? should they continue to be numbered sequentially?
14:42:27 <xfq> ... MessageFormat looks nice in Markdown and HTML, but it looks clunky when it gets merged into CLDR
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14:44:02 <xfq> r12a: I don't imagine that they would change the URLs for any of these
14:44:19 <xfq> ... but they might change the Unicode 17 content to include the UAXs
14:47:22 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:47:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/29-i18n-minutes.html xfq
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