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07:54:05 <elianaP> chair: Nick
07:54:18 <elianaP> Topic: Data Shapes telecon 2025-05-26
07:54:35 <elianaP> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-05-26.md
07:54:47 <elianaP> RRSAgent, make logs public
07:55:00 <elianaP> RRSAgent, draft minutes
07:55:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/26-data-shapes-minutes.html elianaP
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07:59:33 <elianaP> present+
07:59:46 <elianaP> regrets: Andy, Holger
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08:02:54 <YoucTagh> present+
08:02:56 <simonstey> present+
08:02:57 <bergos> present+
08:02:58 <ajnelson-nist> present+
08:03:29 <elianaP> topic: New readme
08:03:43 <David> present+
08:04:20 <elianaP> Nick: please look at the new readme, it has been updated to better reflect our work
08:04:49 <elianaP> topic: Meeting times
08:04:58 <elianaP> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/blob/agenda/admin/agenda-2025-05-26.md
08:05:59 <elianaP> Nick: 2PM CEST proposed instead of 9PM
08:06:43 <elianaP> (no objections)
08:06:58 <simonstey> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2025&month=5&day=26&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=259&p2=47&p3=179&p4=224
08:07:12 <elianaP> Decision: Trial 2PM CEST
08:08:05 <elianaP> topic: PR 335 Profiles doc & auto-publishing??
08:09:53 <ajnelson-nist> q+
08:10:00 <elianaP> SimonStey: may be an issue without consensus, depending on the contents
08:10:33 <ajnelson-nist> q-
08:11:26 <elianaP> Nick: Will approve the shell document. We can vote for the FPWD and then move it to auto-publishing. Applies for profiles and UI documents.
08:12:14 <elianaP> topic: Usage of SHACL in the TREE CG
08:12:24 <bergos> Tree spec: https://treecg.github.io/specification/
08:13:40 <caribou> present+
08:13:48 <bergos> proposal to switch to shapes in tree cg: https://github.com/TREEcg/specification/issues/115
08:14:09 <simonstey> GeoSHACL: https://github.com/chrdebru/chrdebru.github.io/blob/master/ontologies/geoshacl/ontology.ttl ( https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-2977/paper8.pdf )
08:14:54 <elianaP> bergos: no specific action point for TreeCG, just informing the group
08:15:44 <elianaP> topic: GeoSHACL
08:15:57 <bergos> Shape Topologies specification: https://treecg.github.io/specification/shape-topologies.html
08:16:45 <elianaP> bergos: if more people are interested, we might consider getting involved
08:17:32 <elianaP> ...This is about constraints you can add to your shape
08:17:48 <elianaP> Nick: GeoSPARQL already contains shapes
08:18:25 <elianaP> ...might serve as a starting point for this. These 43 shapes are generic.
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08:18:46 <nicholascar> Here is the GeoSPARQL 1.1 validator in SHACL: https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/blob/master/vocabularies/validator.ttl
08:19:50 <elianaP> Nick: SHACL shapes using GeoSPARQL should work fine as long as the latter is enabled at the specific endpoint.
08:20:27 <simonstey> maybe relevant as well https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc-geosparql/pull/173
08:20:51 <elianaP> bergos: Does any SHACL engine provide this kind of capability out of the box? Would this be able to run without a SPARQL endpoint?
08:21:40 <elianaP> Nick: For the shapes likely to be written by people, a spatial index (therefore geoSPARQL) would be necessary.
08:22:46 <bergos> JS library for geo functions: https://turfjs.org/
08:24:20 <elianaP> bergos: is anyone in touch with the people working on these projects?
08:24:49 <nicholascar> q?
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08:27:22 <simonstey> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2025&month=5&day=26&hour=12&min=0&sec=0&p1=259&p2=47&p3=179&p4=224 here again
08:29:03 <elianaP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
08:29:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/26-data-shapes-minutes.html elianaP
08:29:52 <elianaP> scribe: elianaP
08:30:31 <elianaP> Meeting: Data Shapes telecon 2025-05-26
08:30:40 <elianaP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
08:30:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/26-data-shapes-minutes.html elianaP
08:33:09 <elianaP> agenda?
08:33:28 <elianaP> zakim, end meeting
08:33:28 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been elianaP, YoucTagh, simonstey, bergos, ajnelson-nist, David, caribou
08:33:30 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
08:33:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/26-data-shapes-minutes.html Zakim
08:33:37 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, elianaP; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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08:33:44 <elianaP> rrsagent, please excuse us
08:33:44 <RRSAgent> I see no action items