01:59:33 kaz has joined #wot-td 13:04:01 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 13:04:01 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-irc 13:04:19 meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF - Slot 2 13:04:23 regrets+ Koster 13:04:36 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Luca_Barbato 13:05:33 present+ Daniel_Peintner 13:07:03 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot-td 13:10:15 dape has joined #wot-td 13:10:27 topic: Minutes Review 13:10:35 scribenick: EgeKorka_ 13:11:00 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:11:05 Mizushima has joined #wot-td 13:11:10 https://www.w3.org/2025/05/15-wot-td-minutes.html 13:11:22 s|https://www.w3.org/2025/05/15-wot-td-minutes.html|-> https://www.w3.org/2025/05/15-wot-td-minutes.html May-15| 13:11:28 rrsagent, make log public 13:11:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:11:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:11:41 ek: any remarks? 13:11:48 ek: minutes approved 13:12:33 topic: Use Cases 13:12:42 ek: anything to talk about use case process 13:12:59 kaz: mjk wants some clarifications 13:13:08 ... you can find it in the minutes and we can talk next week 13:13:49 topic: Analyses 13:14:29 ek: I will put the issue links 13:15:37 q+ 13:15:40 ek: How to proceed the best way 13:16:00 dp: I want to work on as I am interested in XML 13:16:26 ... but no progress so far 13:20:42 lb: data mapping and initial connection are related 13:20:58 ... do we have consensus on the problem 13:21:04 cris has joined #wot-td 13:21:04 ac kd 13:21:06 ack d 13:22:42 lb: (describes the problem) 13:23:15 present+ Cristiano_Atuzzi 13:23:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:23:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:24:02 s/Analyses/TD Spec Work - Analyses/ 13:25:31 i|I will put|subtopic: Data Mapping| 13:25:54 i|I will put|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/planning/work-items/analysis/analysis-data-mapping.md analysis-data-mapping.md| 13:26:27 i|I will put|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2094 TD Issue 2094 - Collecting Analysis on Data Mapping| 13:26:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:26:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:27:19 s/ac kd// 13:28:59 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#example-32 WoT Thing Description ED - Example 32 13:29:28 scibe+ 13:29:42 ek: (put comments about the points) 13:30:00 ... Daniel will look into the XML 13:30:40 ... Luca will look into the HTTP header 13:31:04 ... what about you, Cristiano? 13:31:09 ca: also interested 13:31:36 s|header|header/query params and CBOR maps 13:31:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:31:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:32:05 ek: myself will look into Modbus and Profinent 13:33:13 topic: initial connection 13:33:42 i|connection|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2094#issuecomment-2901246507 Ege's comments on Issue 2094| 13:33:51 s/initial co/Initial co/ 13:34:17 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/tree/main/proposals/initial-connection proposals/initial-connection 13:34:57 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2093 TD Issue 2093 - Initial Connection Container Parsing 13:35:41 i|2093|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/main/proposals/initial-connection/tooling/tds.js initial-connection/tooling/tds.js 13:36:12 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2102 TD Issue 2102 - Clarifications for Initial Connection 13:36:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:36:28 q? 13:36:33 s/scibe+/scribe+/ 13:36:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:36:45 ek: should we allow security to be expanded as well 13:36:48 i|should we|scribe-| 13:36:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:36:59 s/as well/as well?/ 13:37:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:37:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:38:02 dp: same concern about scheme not being understandable with beginners 13:40:31 q+ 13:40:35 lb: this is a complicated case I think. It is not easy to compose 13:43:32 ack dape 13:44:53 dp: it will get more complicated when other terms in security gets expanded 13:44:58 ek: (updates the issue comment) 13:47:41 subtopic: PR 2103 13:47:52 ek: removing an empty code file as implementation should live elsewhere 13:50:20 i|reoving|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2103 TD PR 2103 - Initial Connection Improvements 13:50:24 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:50:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:50:43 ek: we should be clear about defaults. Expanded TD has defaults filled in 13:51:35 dp: not sure if the defaults should be expanded. 13:53:28 +1 13:53:34 q+ 13:54:44 i|proposals/initial|subtopic: Issue 2093 and 2102| 13:54:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:54:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 13:55:55 q+ 13:56:00 ack lu 13:57:32 q+ 13:57:43 ack dape 14:00:51 q- 14:02:01 scribe+ 14:02:23 zkis has joined #wot-td 14:02:35 kaz: regarding a possible "canonical version TD", I'm still wondering if we could think about an improved version of TM for that purpose 14:02:43 ek: (creates a new Issue about that idea) 14:02:59 ... (then goes back to the PR's changes) 14:03:23 ... would ask people to review the points again 14:04:54 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/2104 TD Issue 2104 - TMs with Initial Connection for expressing common deployments 14:05:03 [adjourned] 14:05:09 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:05:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 15:00:28 EgeKorkan has joined #wot-td 16:21:54 Zakim has left #wot-td