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13:10:50 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest
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13:12:07 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Ege_Korkan, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:12:35 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:12:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:12:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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13:13:53 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
13:13:57 <kaz> chair: Koster
13:14:00 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:14:18 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-pf-minutes.html 20-Nov-2024
13:14:28 <kaz> mjk: (goes through the minutes)
13:14:44 <kaz> ... planning for the last Plugfest
13:14:50 <kaz> ... any objections?
13:16:58 <kaz> (minor typo around the Scribe list but fixed)
13:17:08 <kaz> approved
13:17:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:17:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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13:18:38 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
13:18:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:19:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:19:51 <kaz> topic: Agenda
13:19:57 <kaz> mjk: (updates the agenda wiki)
13:21:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_21.5.2025 Agenda for today
13:22:49 <kaz> topic: Logistics
13:24:33 <kaz> mjk: may need a sponsor?
13:24:36 <kaz> kaz: right
13:25:26 <kaz> ... would be nicer to have a place for preparation on Sat/Sun (Nov 8/9)
13:25:40 <kaz> ... right before TPAC on 10-14 November
13:26:26 <kaz> s/may need/maybe need/
13:27:07 <kaz> ... our usual style is:
13:27:20 <kaz> ... Plugfest preparation on Sat/Sun
13:27:27 <kaz> ... Demonstration on Wednesday
13:27:36 <kaz> ... Report and discussion on Thu/Fri
13:27:49 <kaz> s/Wednesday/Wednesday during Breakouts/
13:28:46 <kaz> q?
13:28:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:28:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:29:31 <kaz> topic: Participation
13:29:47 <kaz> mjk: would we invite CG participants?
13:30:16 <kaz> ... Plugfest itself could be open
13:30:49 <kaz> ek: TPAC is open to anybody. right?
13:31:09 <kaz> kaz: usually yes, but the detail for TPAC 2025 is not announced yet
13:31:31 <kaz> ek: what about remote participation?
13:31:41 <kaz> mjk: requires VPN, etc.
13:31:54 <kaz> ek: also specific setting for the network
13:32:03 <kaz> q+
13:32:20 <kaz> kaz: can talk with Naomi about that
13:32:42 <kaz> ... regarding VPN, we should consult with Toumura-san again
13:33:01 <kaz> ek: yeah, but depends on the need
13:33:20 <kaz> mjk: need an owner for each task
13:33:23 <kaz> q-
13:33:28 <kaz> ... we'll figure that out
13:33:40 <kaz> topic: Sponsor
13:34:03 <kaz> mjk: we need a sponsor for the preparation
13:34:36 <kaz> kaz: yes, a Member company in Kobe
13:35:35 <kaz> ... can ask Naomi about that as a starting point
13:35:40 <dape> q+
13:35:47 <kaz> s/that/the hotel meeting room/
13:36:07 <kaz> mjk: need clarification about the hotel network anyway
13:36:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:36:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:36:52 <kaz> dape: should have a questionnaire about participation in general
13:37:03 <kaz> kaz: right
13:37:32 <kaz> ... will create two Doodle poll, one for Plugfest (and prep) and F2F
13:38:00 <kaz> dape: maybe we can put our names with probability on the wiki as usual :)
13:38:08 <kaz> kaz: yeah, that's also fine :)
13:38:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:38:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:38:53 <kaz> mjk: need a signup page
13:39:02 <kaz> ... any other points around logistics?
13:39:18 <kaz> ek: power supply, etc.?
13:39:35 <kaz> kaz: right
13:40:10 <kaz> ... let's create a table about participants' expected settings also
13:40:27 <kaz> ... like we did for the one in Munich last year
13:41:12 <kaz> ... I'll create one for Kobe based on the wiki page for Munich Plugfest
13:41:37 <kaz> action: Kaz to create a wiki page for TPAC and Plugfest
13:42:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:42:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:42:20 <kaz> mjk: any other point?
13:42:31 <kaz> kaz: think this is a good starting point for today
13:42:34 <kaz> mjk: ok
13:42:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:42:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:43:07 <kaz> i|should have a|topic: AOB|
13:43:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:43:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:44:18 <kaz> ... should talk about the concrete setting and scenario next time
13:44:52 <kaz> ek: how to handle new people?
13:45:18 <kaz> ... what would be our final goal this time?
13:45:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:45:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:46:13 <kaz> s/AOB/Wiki pages/
13:46:59 <kaz> i|any other point|topic: AOB|
13:47:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:47:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:47:33 <kaz> ca: wondering if we might want to have yet another Plugfest before TPAC
13:47:47 <kaz> ek: need to talk with Sebastian
13:48:03 <kaz> ... could be a "pre-Plugfest" rather than "another Plugfest"
13:48:09 <kaz> q?
13:48:12 <kaz> ack d
13:48:13 <kaz> q+
13:48:51 <kaz> ack k
13:49:23 <dape> q+
13:49:30 <kaz> kaz: personally think it would be nicer to have everybody including non-WG participants (e.g., CG participants) as well for the Plugfest during TPAC
13:49:33 <kaz> ek: agree
13:49:45 <kaz> ... would be better from the travel budget viewpoint
13:50:16 <kaz> de: pretty sure Josh and I'll joint TPAC
13:50:35 <kaz> dape: we could think about online setting as well
13:51:05 <kaz> ek: would be great to have more participants from Japan as well
13:51:06 <kaz> q+
13:51:12 <dape> ack dape
13:52:27 <kaz> kaz: would check with ECHONET working on smart homes and IPA DADC working on smart buildings
13:52:56 <kaz> ek: would be perfect if we could invite ECHONET
13:53:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:53:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:53:23 <kaz> ... what about the WoT-JP CG?
13:55:04 <kaz> mjk: good
13:55:12 <kaz> ... any other discussion for today?
13:55:16 <kaz> (none)
13:55:26 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:55:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:55:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:55:45 <kaz> s/... what about the WoT-JP CG?//
13:55:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:55:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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