12:01:29 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:01:34 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-irc 12:01:35 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:02:09 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:02:12 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:02:17 chair: Koster 12:02:23 regrets+ Sebastian 12:03:48 Charith has joined #wot 12:03:52 present+ Charith_Perera 12:04:19 dezell has joined #wot 12:04:29 present+ David_Ezell 12:04:42 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#21_May_2025 12:06:40 present+ Josh_Thomas 12:06:46 rrsagent, make log public 12:06:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:06:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:06:58 Charith has joined #wot 12:09:23 Topic: Adjenda Review 12:09:27 scribenick: jthomas 12:09:41 s/Adj/Ag/ 12:09:54 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:10:50 Topic: Minutes Review 12:10:56 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/05/14-wot-minutes.html May-14 12:11:12 mk: Any updates to the minutes? 12:11:15 matsuda has joined #wot 12:11:21 i/Minutes/(no specific changes needed)/ 12:11:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:11:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:12:02 mk: call for objections to publishing with none voiced. 12:12:25 Topic: Quick Items 12:12:41 i|Quick|(minutes approved)| 12:12:47 q+ 12:13:21 q- 12:13:31 subtopic: Binding name 12:13:31 luca_barbato has joined #wot 12:14:01 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/143 Binding Issue 143 - "Protocol Binding" vs. "Binding Template" 12:14:11 mk: have a call for resolution on user stories to ratify the change in the TD Task Force to change the name to contain Bindings. 12:14:21 present+ Luca_Barbato 12:14:24 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:14:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:15:04 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:15:12 dape has joined #wot 12:15:30 ... There was good conscious in the group for approval 12:15:53 ... Call for resolution approval of the change presented by the TD Task Force 12:16:39 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025May/0006.html Ege's message (Member-only) 12:19:00 Resolution: Approve the TD Task Force resolution recorded in Issue #143 12:19:00 https://bms.ktcdev.se/#/flowchart/cfe2e366-28df-42dc-ac51-72d86f4aba8a/flowchart-editor 12:19:00 RESOLUTION: The Task Force agrees to change the name of the proposed registry from "WoT Binding Templates Registry" to "WoT Bindings Registry". The newly created repository should be changed to "w3c/wot-bindings-registry" 12:19:00 q? 12:19:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:19:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:19:40 mk: call for objection for approval of the resolution. None voiced so resolution approved. 12:20:21 q+ 12:20:28 Subtopic: Profiles 12:20:44 q+ 12:21:15 ack dape 12:21:19 q- 12:21:30 q+ 12:21:31 dp: Mentioned a note from Ben that there was a change to publish it as a note. 12:21:49 mk: does anyone have any objection on publishing it a s a note not a rec? 12:22:00 q- 12:23:55 Resolution: The WoT Working Group agrees with the resolution from the Profiles TF to publish the WoT Profiles 1.0 document as a Working Group Note by July 2025 and write Use Cases & Requirements for WoT Profiles 2.0 by October 2025. 12:24:07 mk: Call for resolution of publishing the WoT Profiles 1.0 Working Group by July 2025 as a note and the Use Case and Requirements by Oct 2025 12:25:00 mk: Call for objections on the resolution. None voiced. 12:25:19 (@@@ Kaz will change the order of the resolution later :) 12:25:42 Topic: Announcements 12:25:52 mk: Any new announcements for the group today? 12:25:59 q+ 12:26:26 mk: TPAC will be in Nov in Kobe 12:26:45 ... meeting plans are in the github repo 12:26:56 ... This will be discussed on the Plugfest call 12:27:37 dezell has joined #wot 12:28:03 q- 12:28:07 present+ David_Ezell 12:28:19 Topic: Meetup 12:29:10 i|Meetup|kaz: will create two Doodle polls, one for the Plugfest and another for the F2F discussion.| 12:29:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:29:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:29:28 Ege: there is a meetup on June 5th. We have new videos that are almost ready for release. 12:29:47 present+ Ege_Korkan, Cristiano_Aguzzi 12:30:06 q+ 12:31:01 q? 12:31:11 mk: Kaz and I joinged the smartcities meeting. They are working on their standards anthology. We have a good synergy between the two groups. 12:32:38 Topic: Liaison 12:32:55 i|Liai|kaz: in addition, we're inviting key stakeholders from related SDOs. Two of them, Torbjorn Lahrin and Mark Fox will join the next IG call on May 26.| 12:32:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:32:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:33:09 q? 12:33:10 q+ 12:33:15 mk: No news from Echonet, but they have some notes on TD's for multiple devices. How you make complex TD's for devices 12:33:36 kaz: At this moment no concrete input yet. They are in use case discussion. 12:33:39 i|No news|subtopic: ECHONET| 12:33:52 subtopic: Conexxus 12:33:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:33:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:34:25 i|will create two|scribenick: kaz| 12:34:36 i|there is a meetup|scribenick: jthomas| 12:34:43 i|in addition|scribenick: kaz| 12:34:48 scribenick: jthomas| 12:34:51 scribenick: jthomas 12:34:57 s/scribenick: jthomas|// 12:35:00 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:35:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:35:08 dz: No news directly. We have some new companies joining the group that is working on the WoT profiles. 12:35:15 ... We might discuss what we can do at the Plugfest 12:35:26 i|No news from Echo|scribenick: jthomas| 12:35:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:35:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:36:24 ... Hopefully we will have a standard by then 12:36:25 subtopic: OPC Foundation 12:36:49 mk: They are still in the review process for the protocol binding to onboard devices. 12:37:10 Subtopic: ETSI ISC CIM 12:37:27 q? 12:37:32 mk: next meeting in early June 12:37:32 q- 12:37:54 ... its open to everyone if you are interested. 12:38:04 Topic: Schedule 12:38:20 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays and Events 12:40:52 Topic: Policies 12:41:04 mk: still working on the moderator document 12:41:17 Topic: TF Leads 12:41:19 i|Poli|(May 29: German public holiday)| 12:41:42 mk: need some leads for Security, Discovery, Arch, and testing 12:42:47 q? 12:42:57 ... We need to discuss the Use case vs user stories. We are focusing on user stories to motivate features. The user stores guild the work and the use cases are higher level summaries. 12:43:59 ... Use cases can be broad and few, and contain many stories 12:44:07 ... Any other comments? 12:44:47 Topic: TF Reports 12:44:49 q+ 12:45:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:45:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:45:34 subtopic: Scripting 12:45:52 dp: For scripting we don't have anything to mention on the main call. We are working on adaptations on actions. 12:46:09 ... trying to figure out the async actions 12:46:24 subtopic: Profile 12:46:50 sigh 12:48:03 luca: Last week we setup the plan for the next weeks. Ben is unavailable so we have a plugfest call. We have a plan to work on the note for 1.0 and start working on 2.0. 12:48:48 ... One item that is Luca is not set as an editor on the site. 12:49:35 subtopic: marketing 12:49:37 subtopic: Marketing 12:49:43 s/sigh// 12:49:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:49:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:49:55 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025May/0007.html 12:49:55 Ege: we have a PR that needs review. 12:49:55 https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/522 12:50:07 https://deploy-preview-522--wot-marketing.netlify.app/activities/task-forces/ 12:50:26 s|https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025May/0007.html|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025May/0007.html Ege's message around Marketing updates (Member-only)| 12:51:01 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/522|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/522 Marketing PR 522 - refactor: separate active/suspended TFs + add Profile| 12:51:01 https://deploy-preview-522--wot-marketing.netlify.app/activities/task-forces/tf-profile/ 12:51:29 https://deploy-preview-522--wot-marketing.netlify.app/activities/task-forces/tf-architecture/ 12:51:54 q+ 12:52:04 https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/task-forces/ 12:52:12 https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/task-forces/tf-architecture/ 12:52:26 ... made changes to the pages to show the merging and changes to the task forces. 12:52:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:52:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:54:31 dp: Change Luca to editor, also we only see active/suspended on the main list not sub pages. 12:55:14 q? 12:55:45 kaz: We should make a resolution to approve the change, but we need to make some additional changes. 12:56:17 ack e 12:56:17 ack k 12:56:21 ... Would it be ok to make an agreement to make this change and give you a request to update the changes? 12:57:19 s/changes/contents a bit more/ 12:58:05 Proposal: The WoT Working Group approves the new layout for the Task Force summary web pages in this PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/522 12:58:25 Resolution: The WoT Working Group approves the new layout for the Task Force summary web pages in this PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/522 12:59:45 Action: The WoT Marketing Task Force will update the content of the Task Force Summary web pages as needed 13:00:05 q? 13:00:09 q+ 13:00:09 q+ 13:00:38 https://www.fime.com/ 13:00:49 s|https://www.fime.com/|| 13:00:57 ack e 13:02:07 ack k 13:02:23 topic: AOB 13:02:47 ek: (mentions there was a new participant in the UC call, and they'll join the main call next week) 13:03:35 kaz: We'll start initial discussion about Plugfest during TPAC 2025 in Kobe right after this main call 13:03:48 ek: let's start that 10 mins past the hour :) 13:04:39 [ main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts 10 mins past the hour. will use the same Zoom as the main call and a different IRC channel, "#wot-pf" ] 13:04:59 i|mentions|subtopic: New participant| 13:05:13 i|We'll|subtopic: Plugfest call| 13:05:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:05:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:05:44 i|mentions|scribenick: kaz| 13:05:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:05:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:11:20 bigbluehat has joined #wot 15:03:12 Zakim has left #wot