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12:16:40 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:16:48 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
12:16:54 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:16:56 <jasonjgw> present+
12:16:59 <jasonjgw> scribe+
12:17:12 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #16: Replace "overlays" as a section
12:17:12 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #21: Jumping to Overlays in "accessibility context" missies the real value of AI in Design and Development
12:17:12 <gb> Issue 16 not found
12:17:12 <gb> Issue 21 not found
12:17:15 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #17::	Opportunity to disambiguate the term "AI"
12:17:15 <gb> Issue 17 not found
12:17:17 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #18: Sign language section: needs evidence, context, and explicit examples
12:17:18 <gb> Issue 18 not found
12:17:20 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #19: Suggest Flow or groupings
12:17:21 <gb> Issue 19 not found
12:17:23 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Issue #20: Use Purpose and Scope to better set out aims for the work
12:17:23 <gb> Issue 20 not found
12:17:25 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
12:17:47 <jasonjgw> zakim, list agenda
12:17:47 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda:
12:17:48 <Zakim> 1. Issue #16: Replace "overlays" as a section [from jasonjgw]
12:17:48 <Zakim> 2. Issue #21: Jumping to Overlays in "accessibility context" missies the real value of AI in Design and Development [from jasonjgw]
12:17:48 <Zakim> 3. Issue #17::	Opportunity to disambiguate the term "AI" [from jasonjgw]
12:17:48 <Zakim> 4. Issue #18: Sign language section: needs evidence, context, and explicit examples [from jasonjgw]
12:17:48 <gb> Issue 16 not found
12:17:49 <Zakim> 5. Issue #19: Suggest Flow or groupings [from jasonjgw]
12:17:50 <Zakim> 6. Issue #20: Use Purpose and Scope to better set out aims for the work [from jasonjgw]
12:17:50 <Zakim> 7. Miscellaneous topics. [from jasonjgw]
12:17:56 <jasonjgw> agenda?
12:17:58 <gb> Issue 21 not found
12:17:58 <gb> Issue 17 not found
12:17:58 <gb> Issue 18 not found
12:18:00 <gb> Issue 19 not found
12:18:00 <gb> Issue 20 not found
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13:03:01 <janina> scribe+
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13:03:40 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Issue #16: Replace "overlays" as a section -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:03:41 <gb> Issue 16 not found
13:03:42 <scott_h> scribe+
13:04:20 <scott_h> jason: asked to replace overlays as a section
13:04:33 <scott_h> not a product category, shoudl be discusison on more borader topic of browser extentsions
13:05:52 <janina> scott: Thought important to ack orgs turn to overlays to remediate
13:06:05 <janina> scott: Here in AU it's not necessrily a negative term
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13:08:07 <stacey> present+
13:08:30 <janina> janina: Forthcoming CG report suggests AI not yet sufficient:
13:08:42 <janina> janina: https://A11yEdge.github.io/capabilities/
13:13:53 <scott_h> Janin: can reference findings of this report regarding AI relevance
13:14:04 <scott_h> jason: three actions potentially:
13:14:13 <scott_h> 1. align terminology with community group report
13:14:29 <scott_h> 2. make sure limitations of machine learning in remediation are clearly specified in this document
13:14:35 <scott_h> 3. cite work of community group appropriately
13:16:24 <scott_h> revisit issue 16 when report comes out next week
13:17:13 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:17:13 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Issue #21: Jumping to Overlays in "accessibility context" missies the real value of AI in Design and Development -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:17:14 <gb> Issue 21 not found
13:17:26 <scott_h> isue 21
13:18:06 <scott_h> diffent ways of  machine learning bieng applied to accessibility are not currently here
13:18:20 <scott_h> possibility of restructure addressing it
13:19:06 <scott_h> janina: beleive our restructuring will cover this
13:20:03 <scott_h> janina: defer to next week to check with Josh
13:21:32 <scott_h> zakim, next item
13:21:32 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Issue #17::	Opportunity to disambiguate the term "AI" -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:21:33 <gb> Issue 17 not found
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13:22:24 <scott_h> issue 17
13:22:42 <scott_h> disambiguate th term AI is discussed
13:23:38 <scott_h> janian: wants more time on defining, agreed we'd do more of this in teh introduction
13:26:25 <scott_h> stacey: good to be a bit more specific in plain language that we're talking about TTS, specific capability rathe rthan just 'AI'
13:27:46 <scott_h> janian: seems to be there
13:28:09 <scott_h> jason: difference between potential paplicaiotn of technology rather than discussing the technology itself
13:30:05 <scott_h> janina: we coudl go back to this issue once restructure complete and see what's covered or missing
13:30:34 <scott_h> jason: yes, woudl confirm examples match
13:30:47 <scott_h> janina: yes, will check this agian before publishing
13:32:24 <scott_h> zakin, next item
13:32:46 <scott_h> zakim, next item
13:32:46 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Issue #18: Sign language section: needs evidence, context, and explicit examples -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:32:46 <gb> Issue 18 not found
13:33:15 <scott_h> issue 18
13:33:33 <scott_h> sign language needs specific exmaples
13:34:11 <scott_h> stacey: relates to Section 3.10
13:34:27 <scott_h> as sits in WCAG Level AAA, not widely implemented
13:34:50 <scott_h> generative AI can provide translation services,
13:35:25 <scott_h> asking about what is evidence that AI can translat symbols,
13:35:33 <scott_h> what websites
13:35:51 <scott_h> and no dicussion on facial movements, acitons etc.
13:37:08 <scott_h> raja: general comment - use of AI broadly from emergencies, informaiton, communicating,
13:37:43 <scott_h> some use cases beneficial for generating messages where need ot know informaiton quicly that doesn't need as much emotion
13:37:59 <scott_h> thinking about the most important scenarios
13:39:23 <scott_h> zakim, next item
13:39:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Issue #19: Suggest Flow or groupings -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:39:24 <gb> Issue 19 not found
13:40:05 <scott_h> issue 19
13:42:07 <scott_h> askng if we shoudl ahve this structure din teh website devleopment cycle
13:43:04 <scott_h> stacey: document goes beyond tthe cycle
13:43:54 <scott_h> janina: quesiton to ask is what's our horizon in this documnt?
13:44:58 <scott_h> stacy: good to have both - today quesitons and tomorrow quesitons
13:47:17 <scott_h> jason: is this largely ocvered in teh restructure?
13:47:55 <scott_h> janian: more faminiar terminology
13:48:33 <scott_h> stacey: PDLC could be useful with ai and accessibility but is that this document
13:51:54 <scott_h> janina: wil respond loking at restructure, and reivew on near and long-term applicaibility
13:55:53 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:55:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, scott_h, janina, stacey
13:55:55 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:55:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:56:03 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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