IRC log of apa on 2025-05-21

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:55:37 [matatk]
meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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chair: Matthew
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present+
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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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agenda+ Reminder: Demo of data-ssml attribute for pronunciation (2025-06-02)
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agenda+ Charter
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agenda+ TPAC 2025
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agenda+ New on TR
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agenda+ Spec review requests
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agenda+ Comment review requests
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agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
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agenda+ Actions check-in
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agenda+ Other business
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agenda+ Be done
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: matatk
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada, gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
13:58:14 [janina]
present+
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agenda?
13:58:31 [janina]
Meeting?
13:58:46 [janina]
Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
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Date: 21 May 2025
13:58:55 [janina]
Chair: Matthew
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zakim, who's here?
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Present: matatk, janina
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada, gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
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present+
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agenda?
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present+
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present+
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regrets+ Chiara_Cerretti
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present+
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regrets+ Gautier_Chomel
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present+
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scribe+
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zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
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regrets+ Paul_Grenier
14:05:08 [matatk]
zakim, who's here?
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Present: matatk, janina, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, niklasegger
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On IRC I see niklasegger, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, Francis_Storr, matatk, RRSAgent, Zakim, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada,
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... gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
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present+
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(New member, short round of introductions)
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(Welcome to the group Ananya)
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zakim, next item
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agendum 2 -- Reminder: Demo of data-ssml attribute for pronunciation (2025-06-02) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:10:16 [Neha]
present+
14:10:21 [matatk]
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/03fa8f75-a761-43ba-a0d7-e98171d31a63/20250602T110000/
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matatk: Rebooted the Pronunciation TF for new approaches. One of them is data-ssml, a demo is now available, see link above for more information.
14:13:35 [janina]
DAISY and Epub requirements gathering:
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Draft: https://daisy.github.io/reading-apps-ux-reqs/requirements/draft/#user-requirements
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Issues: https://github.com/daisy/reading-apps-ux-reqs/issues
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14:14:16 [niklasegger]
matatk: ... as APA members you should be able to join this meeting, if you have problems get in contact with me
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zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- Charter -- taken up [from matatk]
14:14:37 [Fredrik]
I'll drink to that reboot!
14:15:01 [Ananya]
present+
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:17:51 [niklasegger]
janina: With respect to ADAPT, I think it might useful to toss in one sentence talking about symbols, because we have a whole new approach.
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q?
14:18:14 [niklasegger]
janina: Probably a CfC next week, only smaller changes expected like the ADAPT sentence
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DRAFT RESOLUTION: Proceed with current Charter draft with minimal "Deliverables" edits
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RESOLUTION: Proceed with current Charter draft with minimal "Deliverables" edits
14:19:50 [matatk]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:20:31 [niklasegger]
zakim, next item
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agendum 4 -- TPAC 2025 -- taken up [from matatk]
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matatk: Mid-November 2025, in Kobe (Japan)
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matatk: We will be asking all taskforce who they want to talk to and. what about in the following months
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matatk: Show and tell about our current projects
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- New on TR -- taken up [from matatk]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 5 closed
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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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6. Spec review requests [from matatk]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 6 -- Spec review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:24:09 [matatk]
Reviewing Janina's proposed comment on Audio Session API: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/232
14:28:13 [Fredrik]
q_
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q+
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matatk: Are we fine with Janina's proposed comment? Any questions?
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ack Fredrik
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q+
14:31:02 [Neha]
q+
14:31:10 [niklasegger]
Fredrik: My only concern: It should not only address TTS / Screenreader, to specific.
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janina: I will do an editorial change so more general ATs are considered
14:31:47 [matatk]
q?
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ack me
14:36:11 [niklasegger]
matatk: The spec mentions the interaction between the audio that's coming out of the browser and the underlying platforms. So you can hear for example a personal assistant over the browser sounds. I think the spec should give clearer examples for this. Also, they need to include their privacy section
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janina: I'm happy to take these considerations into a redraft.
14:38:15 [matatk]
ack Neha
14:39:15 [Gottfried]
q+ to propose a "politeness" system for audio such as with aria role "alert".
14:40:15 [matatk]
ack Gottfried
14:40:15 [Zakim]
Gottfried, you wanted to propose a "politeness" system for audio such as with aria role "alert".
14:41:49 [matatk]
q+ to mention ariaNotify API
14:42:22 [niklasegger]
Neha: (Question about Fredrik's point, what exactly he meant, resulting in Janina explaining "earcons", so a short, distinctive sound that is used to symbolize a particular event or convey other information.)
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q?
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ack me
14:42:51 [Zakim]
matatk, you wanted to mention ariaNotify API
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ariaNotify explainer: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/Accessibility/AriaNotify/explainer.md
14:45:09 [niklasegger]
matatk: This discussion reminds me of ariaNotify. From the abstract "We propose an imperative notification API designed to replace the usage of ARIA live regions in scenarios where a visual "live region" isn't necessary."
14:46:34 [niklasegger]
zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- Comment review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:47:07 [matatk]
subtopic: [css-anchor-position-1] Improve accessibility guidance
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source: w3c/csswg-drafts#10311
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tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/230
14:49:31 [niklasegger]
matatk: Popups may appear outside the viewport, so you have to write custom JS to fix that. Anchor position is a new CSS solution to tackle this problem
14:50:51 [niklasegger]
matatk: Someone wants to contribute to this, so improving the accessibility section of this document. Should work together with Paul for this one
14:52:07 [niklasegger]
Neha: I will do it
14:52:17 [niklasegger]
matatk: Perfect, I will assign you
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zakim, next item
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agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) -- taken up [from matatk]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 8 closed
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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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9. Actions check-in [from matatk]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 9 -- Actions check-in -- taken up [from matatk]
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 9 closed
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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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10. Other business [from matatk]
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zakim, next item
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agendum 10 -- Other business -- taken up [from matatk]
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(end of meeting)
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html niklasegger
15:04:33 [janina]
zakim, end meeting
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As of this point the attendees have been matatk, janina, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, niklasegger, Gottfried, Neha, Ananya
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html Zakim
15:04:39 [Zakim]
I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items
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