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13:55:26 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:55:37 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:55:37 <matatk> chair: Matthew
13:55:37 <matatk> present+
13:57:32 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:57:32 <matatk> agenda+ Reminder: Demo of data-ssml attribute for pronunciation (2025-06-02)
13:57:32 <matatk> agenda+ Charter
13:57:32 <matatk> agenda+ TPAC 2025
13:57:33 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR
13:57:33 <matatk> agenda+ Spec review requests
13:57:33 <matatk> agenda+ Comment review requests
13:57:34 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
13:57:34 <matatk> agenda+ Actions check-in
13:57:34 <matatk> agenda+ Other business
13:57:35 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
13:57:43 <matatk> zakim, who's here?
13:57:43 <Zakim> Present: matatk
13:57:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada, gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
13:58:14 <janina> present+
13:58:22 <janina> agenda?
13:58:31 <janina> Meeting?
13:58:46 <janina> Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference
13:58:51 <janina> Date: 21 May 2025
13:58:55 <janina> Chair: Matthew
13:59:17 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:59:17 <Zakim> Present: matatk, janina
13:59:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, matatk, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada, gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
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14:01:23 <matatk> agenda?
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14:02:26 <janina> present+
14:03:15 <janina> regrets+ Chiara_Cerretti
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14:04:08 <janina> regrets+ Gautier_Chomel
14:04:08 <niklasegger> present+
14:04:43 <niklasegger> scribe+
14:04:50 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:04:50 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
14:04:58 <janina> regrets+ Paul_Grenier
14:05:08 <matatk> zakim, who's here?
14:05:08 <Zakim> Present: matatk, janina, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, niklasegger
14:05:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see niklasegger, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, Francis_Storr, matatk, RRSAgent, Zakim, kirkwood, janina, jyasskin, vmpstr, Rachael, tink, chrishtr, slightlyoff, hdv, alastairc, ada,
14:05:08 <Zakim> ... gb, jcraig, Roy_Ruoxi
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14:05:48 <Gottfried> present+
14:06:42 <niklasegger> (New member, short round of introductions)
14:09:21 <niklasegger> (Welcome to the group Ananya)
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14:10:08 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:10:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Reminder: Demo of data-ssml attribute for pronunciation (2025-06-02) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:10:16 <Neha> present+
14:10:21 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/03fa8f75-a761-43ba-a0d7-e98171d31a63/20250602T110000/
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14:13:09 <niklasegger> matatk: Rebooted the Pronunciation TF for new approaches. One of them is data-ssml, a demo is now available, see link above for more information.
14:13:35 <janina> DAISY and Epub requirements gathering:
14:13:36 <janina> Draft: https://daisy.github.io/reading-apps-ux-reqs/requirements/draft/#user-requirements
14:13:39 <janina> Issues: https://github.com/daisy/reading-apps-ux-reqs/issues
14:13:42 <janina> 
14:14:16 <niklasegger> matatk: ... as APA members you should be able to join this meeting, if you have problems get in contact with me
14:14:30 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:14:30 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Charter -- taken up [from matatk]
14:14:37 <Fredrik> I'll drink to that reboot!
14:15:01 <Ananya> present+
14:15:14 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:15:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:17:51 <niklasegger> janina: With respect to ADAPT, I think it might useful to toss in one sentence talking about symbols, because we have a whole new approach.
14:18:01 <matatk> q?
14:18:14 <niklasegger> janina: Probably a CfC next week, only smaller changes expected like the ADAPT sentence
14:19:19 <janina> DRAFT RESOLUTION: Proceed with current Charter draft with minimal "Deliverables" edits
14:19:44 <niklasegger> RESOLUTION: Proceed with current Charter draft with minimal "Deliverables" edits
14:19:50 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:19:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:20:31 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:20:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- TPAC 2025 -- taken up [from matatk]
14:21:38 <niklasegger> matatk: Mid-November 2025, in Kobe (Japan)
14:22:33 <niklasegger> matatk: We will be asking all taskforce who they want to talk to and. what about in the following months
14:22:48 <niklasegger> matatk: Show and tell about our current projects
14:23:10 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:23:10 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New on TR -- taken up [from matatk]
14:23:37 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:23:37 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:23:38 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:23:38 <Zakim> 6. Spec review requests [from matatk]
14:23:41 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:23:41 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Spec review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:24:09 <matatk> Reviewing Janina's proposed comment on Audio Session API: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/232
14:28:13 <Fredrik> q_
14:28:22 <Fredrik> q+
14:28:29 <niklasegger> matatk: Are we fine with Janina's proposed comment? Any questions?
14:28:43 <matatk> ack Fredrik
14:29:30 <matatk> q+
14:31:02 <Neha> q+
14:31:10 <niklasegger> Fredrik: My only concern: It should not only address TTS / Screenreader, to specific.
14:31:36 <niklasegger> janina: I will do an editorial change so more general ATs are considered
14:31:47 <matatk> q?
14:31:49 <matatk> ack me
14:36:11 <niklasegger> matatk: The spec mentions the interaction between the audio that's coming out of the browser and the underlying platforms. So you can hear for example a personal assistant over the browser sounds. I think the spec should give clearer examples for this. Also, they need to include their privacy section
14:37:16 <niklasegger> janina: I'm happy to take these considerations into a redraft.
14:38:15 <matatk> ack Neha
14:39:15 <Gottfried> q+ to propose a "politeness" system for audio such as with aria role "alert".
14:40:15 <matatk> ack Gottfried
14:40:15 <Zakim> Gottfried, you wanted to propose a "politeness" system for audio such as with aria role "alert".
14:41:49 <matatk> q+ to mention ariaNotify API
14:42:22 <niklasegger> Neha: (Question about Fredrik's point, what exactly he meant, resulting in Janina explaining "earcons", so a short, distinctive sound that is used to symbolize a particular event or convey other information.)
14:42:49 <matatk> q?
14:42:51 <matatk> ack me
14:42:51 <Zakim> matatk, you wanted to mention ariaNotify API
14:43:01 <matatk> ariaNotify explainer: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/Accessibility/AriaNotify/explainer.md
14:45:09 <niklasegger> matatk: This discussion reminds me of ariaNotify. From the abstract "We propose an imperative notification API designed to replace the usage of ARIA live regions in scenarios where a visual "live region" isn't necessary."
14:46:34 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:46:34 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- Comment review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:47:07 <matatk> subtopic: [css-anchor-position-1] Improve accessibility guidance
14:47:07 <matatk> source: w3c/csswg-drafts#10311
14:47:07 <matatk> tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/230
14:49:31 <niklasegger> matatk: Popups may appear outside the viewport, so you have to write custom JS to fix that. Anchor position is a new CSS solution to tackle this problem
14:50:51 <niklasegger> matatk: Someone wants to contribute to this, so improving the accessibility section of this document. Should work together with Paul for this one
14:52:07 <niklasegger> Neha: I will do it
14:52:17 <niklasegger> matatk: Perfect, I will assign you
14:56:04 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:56:04 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:56:08 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:56:08 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:56:09 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:56:09 <Zakim> 9. Actions check-in [from matatk]
14:56:10 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:56:11 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions check-in -- taken up [from matatk]
14:56:14 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:56:14 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:56:15 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:56:15 <Zakim> 10. Other business [from matatk]
14:56:15 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:56:16 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other business -- taken up [from matatk]
14:56:28 <niklasegger> (end of meeting)
14:56:39 <niklasegger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:56:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html niklasegger
15:04:33 <janina> zakim, end meeting
15:04:33 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been matatk, janina, Fredrik, Dr_Keith, niklasegger, Gottfried, Neha, Ananya
15:04:33 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-apa-minutes.html Zakim
15:04:39 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
15:04:39 <janina> rrsagent, bye
15:04:39 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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