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12:43:23 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:43:42 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
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12:43:48 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
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12:44:22 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI.
12:44:34 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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13:03:08 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:08 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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13:04:31 <janina> present+ Scott
13:04:36 <janina> present+ Josh
13:04:55 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:04:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/14-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:05:41 <JPaton> jasonjgw: Josh was able to push corrections to repository
13:08:24 <JPaton> josh: Those will need to be merged to the main branch
13:09:48 <JPaton> josh: but double check
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13:11:58 <janina> subtopic: Bibliographic Citations
13:13:11 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we had a request for potential edge cases to check the implementation
13:14:14 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we want to show the different types of records we might want to cite.
13:14:40 <JPaton> scott: happy to chase down some examples
13:15:23 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we want to find examples that aren't the standard journal references
13:16:06 <JPaton> janina: do we have our ETA?
13:16:35 <JPaton> Scott: a couple of days for me
13:17:43 <JPaton> janina: it will take a few days to get some of these but if we have anything now it would be good to send them ASAP
13:18:01 <JPaton> janina: we can always say "more to come"
13:18:38 <JPaton> subtopic: draft development and revision plans
13:19:23 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we want to get to first public working draft
13:20:06 <JPaton> jasonjgw: what are the priorities for revision to get us to 1st pwd status
13:20:30 <JPaton> Josh: 18 issues open 2 closed
13:21:00 <JPaton> scott: 18 new?
13:21:17 <JPaton> josh: 12 new
13:21:52 <JPaton> josh: some these have been discussed but not closed.
13:22:31 <JPaton> janina: good first step and that will notify people their issues have bene worked on.
13:24:33 <JPaton> janina: let's avoid being overcautious. A closed issue can be reopened if it needs to be
13:25:16 <JPaton> jasonjgw: Josh - are the issues relating to your mergers closed?
13:26:45 <JPaton> Josh: no, I'll walk through them now.
13:30:58 <JPaton> jasonjgw: "Closes #[issue number]" in a commit should auto-close that issue number.
13:32:46 <JPaton> Janina: to close the ethics issue we need to cross-reference the W3C ethical document
13:39:39 <JPaton> josh: the sustainability issue is out of scope for us so we'll need to defer to the ethics and similar documents
13:41:43 <JPaton> janina: it can be reopened if there is some demonstrable link to accessibility but otherwise this isn't within our remit
13:41:56 <JPaton> Josh: that's 8 closed
13:43:17 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we can focus on remaining issues next week.
13:43:48 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:43:48 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:44:22 <janina> subtopic: AI-Accessibility related APA reviews
13:44:29 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/350
13:44:29 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/350 -> #350
13:45:13 <JPaton> janina: the github issue above may impact on our work
13:49:35 <JPaton> jasonjgw: we can pick this up next time if deemed useful
13:49:44 <janina> subtopic: AAC Users Use Screen Readers
13:50:47 <JPaton> Josh: Yes, they're useful for people with cognitive disabilities.
13:51:07 <JPaton> janina: if that's not flagged with COGA it'd be worth doing
13:51:11 <janina> subtopic: Additional topics
13:52:03 <JPaton> jasonjgw: DAISY consortium is producing a user requirements document
13:52:55 <JPaton> jasonjgw: there's a draft in their github repository so it's worth commenting on that if you're interested
13:53:23 <JPaton> janina: multilinear and music appear to be the same problem just with different media
13:54:51 <JPaton> jasonjgw: there's a review of Meta smart glasses and whether they are compatible with hearing aids, cochlear implants and refreshable Braille and they don't appear to be.
13:55:57 <JPaton> jasonjgw: it's worth bearing in mind when we reopen the XAUR and RTC
13:57:18 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:57:18 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, John_Paton, janina, Scott, Josh
13:57:20 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:57:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/14-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:57:27 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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