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13:59:32 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:59:49 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Teleconf
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14:02:46 <matatk> agenda?
14:02:50 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:02:50 <matatk> agenda+ Recap of Adapt TF Symbols workshop
14:02:50 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR
14:02:50 <matatk> agenda+ Spec review requests
14:02:51 <matatk> agenda+ Comment review requests
14:02:51 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul)
14:02:51 <matatk> agenda+ Actions check-in
14:02:52 <matatk> agenda+ Other business
14:02:52 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
14:02:55 <matatk> chair: Matthew
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14:03:37 <matatk> agenda?
14:03:49 <Roy_Ruoxi> present+
14:03:55 <PaulG> Stepping away for a minute. But I have an agenda topic. Jun 2 pronunciation meeting presentation from Dan Tripp on data-ssml NVDA plugin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTMUn4ttYI
14:04:20 <niklasegger> scribe+ niklasegger
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14:04:26 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:04:26 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
14:04:37 <stevef> present+
14:04:56 <gautierchomel> q+
14:05:09 <matatk> ack gautierchomel
14:06:28 <matatk> q?
14:06:31 <niklasegger> gautierchomel: I will have less time for this meeting, as I'm now co-chair for a group. Still want to join as often as possible
14:06:40 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:06:40 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Recap of Adapt TF Symbols workshop -- taken up [from matatk]
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14:07:17 <matatk> Agenda and other info about the workshop: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/2025%E2%80%9005-Face-to-face-meeting
14:07:44 <Neha> present+
14:08:36 <niklasegger> matatk: (about the link above) Some material we produced in a workshop run by ADAPT. Progressing the work of bringing symbols to the web, was the goal of this workshop.
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14:12:33 <niklasegger> matatk: Essentially the goal is to bring these concepts and the Bliss symbols to the web. We are now expecting to achieve the goals with existing HTML standars as the Bliss alphabet is going into unicode, which is a key part
14:13:47 <niklasegger> matatk: There are still some concerns with rendering for example, however we already have some ideas how to tackle them, for example using Ruby for this specific concern.
14:15:10 <niklasegger> matatk: We are going to revise all of our prototypes, our explainer and our vertical slice. For this we are working with many (Bliss) experts
14:16:37 <niklasegger> matatk: If we have important development news, we will point you to it / keep you up to date
14:17:04 <niklasegger> matatk: You can also join the ADAPT group, if you are interested
14:18:08 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:18:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New on TR -- taken up [from matatk]
14:18:24 <niklasegger> Roy_Ruoxi: Nothing new this week
14:18:28 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:18:28 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:18:29 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:18:29 <Zakim> 4. Spec review requests [from matatk]
14:18:31 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:18:31 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Spec review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:19:16 <matatk> subtopic: Horizontal Review Request for DID v1.1
14:19:16 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/112
14:19:16 <matatk> Due: 2025-05-25
14:20:00 <PaulG> q+
14:20:01 <Roy_Ruoxi> our tracker -> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/155/views/1?filterQuery=label%3A%22s%3Adid-1.1%22
14:21:21 <niklasegger> matatk: We got a few weeks with this spec. Quite low level, however very interesting. We already reviewed the original spec
14:21:34 <niklasegger> q+
14:21:56 <PaulG> q-
14:22:33 <niklasegger> q-
14:23:53 <niklasegger> matatk: Oh, niklasegger reviewed this. I think we can close this one
14:24:14 <matatk> subtopic: Web Neural Network API
14:24:14 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/105
14:24:14 <matatk> Due: 2025-06-20
14:25:31 <Roy_Ruoxi> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/350
14:27:12 <niklasegger> matatk: Thank you Chiara for reviewing this one. She had a few suggestions for improvement
14:32:40 <matatk> q?
14:32:44 <niklasegger> matatk: The first sugesstion with the introduction may not really be applicable as it might be sufficiently low level. The output as far as the spec is concerned is not going straight to human
14:34:43 <niklasegger> matatk: Maybe a point the spec should add to the accessibility section, similar to your feedback on 2.1.8 Image Captioning
14:35:53 <PaulG> q+
14:36:29 <niklasegger> matatk: (2.1.11 Emotion Analysis) Really important point you have here and we should definitely highlight this issue. Key issue about bias
14:37:49 <matatk> ack PaulG
14:38:09 <PaulG> https://w3c.github.io/ai-accessibility/
14:39:18 <Fredrik> q+
14:39:23 <niklasegger> matatk: Overall, the are a couple of things we can do. We can think of which one of these we would like to add to an accessibility consideration section, probably all of them. However, we still need to think about the last to points, as we are not sure what to propose here
14:40:56 <matatk> ack Fredrik
14:41:06 <niklasegger> PaulG: The specs (see link above) should be in sync.
14:46:41 <niklasegger> matatk: There are some highly political and philosophical questions. Should you highlight sarcasm? Should you highlight sarcasm? (Support to Paul's point about people being left behind who can't see an uncanny AI-Image, not know to take this image not literally. For people to be fully included this information needs to be conveyed)
14:47:35 <niklasegger> (sorry: not matatk but Fredrik said the sentence just above)
14:47:50 <matatk> topic: Pronunciation TF
14:48:00 <PaulG> https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/spec/qti/v3/data-ssml_infobind/imsqtiv3p0_datassml_v1p0_InfoBind.html
14:48:19 <matatk> s/matatk: There are some highly/Fredrik: There are some highly/
14:48:29 <matatk> s/(sorry: not matatk but Fredrik said the sentence just above)//
14:48:34 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
14:48:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/07-apa-minutes.html matatk
14:49:12 <PaulG> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTMUn4ttYI
14:51:02 <niklasegger> PaulG: Dan wrote a plugin and showed in this YouTub-Video that AT can pick this up and it can be used to enhance pronunciation (data-ssml property)
14:52:42 <matatk> agenda?
14:53:17 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:53:17 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Comment review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
14:53:24 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:53:24 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:53:25 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:53:25 <Zakim> 6. CSS Update (Paul) [from matatk]
14:53:35 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:53:35 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, niklasegger
14:53:37 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:53:37 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- CSS Update (Paul) -- taken up [from matatk]
14:53:52 <Neha> exit
14:53:57 <matatk> zakim, bye
14:53:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, niklasegger, gautierchomel, matatk, Dr_Keith, Roy_Ruoxi, stevef, Neha, Fredrik, chiace
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14:54:02 <niklasegger> zakim, close this item
14:54:08 <niklasegger> zakim, next item
14:54:27 <Roy_Ruoxi> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:54:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/05/07-apa-minutes.html Roy_Ruoxi
14:54:40 <niklasegger> Thanks :)
14:54:56 <Roy_Ruoxi> cheers