12:54:08 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #smart-cities
12:54:12 <RRSAgent> logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-irc
12:54:30 <kaz> meeting: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG
12:55:17 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
12:55:44 <kaz> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/README.md#28-april-2025
12:55:58 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:56:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:56:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz
12:56:22 <kaz> chair: Koster
12:57:27 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
13:00:31 <ktoumura> ktoumura has joined #smart-cities
13:00:47 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
13:01:31 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
13:02:01 <kaz> q+
13:02:12 <kaz> q-
13:03:15 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:04:04 <kaz> q+
13:04:20 <kaz> q-
13:04:40 <Mizushima> Mizushima has joined #smart-cities
13:05:36 <kaz> scribenikc: kaz
13:05:46 <kaz> topic: Logistics
13:05:58 <kaz> mjk: we have a separate topic for schedule today
13:06:33 <kaz> ... any other specific topic?
13:06:43 <kaz> kaz: just to make sure, next call should be May 26
13:06:50 <kaz> mjk: right
13:07:00 <kaz> ... (quickly shows the "schedule.md")
13:07:05 <kaz> ... any other items?
13:07:06 <kaz> (none)
13:07:10 <kaz> topic: Minutes
13:07:28 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html Mar-24
13:07:38 <kaz> mjk: (goes through the minutes)
13:08:07 <kaz> ... our monthly calls will be held on the 4th Monday
13:08:16 <kaz> s/Monday/Monday of the month/
13:08:45 <kaz> ... probably we should send out a reminder beforehand, preferably on Friday
13:09:13 <kaz> ... (continue to skim the minutes)
13:09:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz
13:09:44 <kaz> s/scribenikc:/scribenick:/
13:09:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz
13:10:44 <kaz> ... any comments?
13:10:54 <kaz> (none)
13:11:01 <kaz> mjk: minutes approved
13:11:09 <kaz> topic: Review GitHub PRs
13:11:23 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pulls PRs
13:11:46 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1
13:12:01 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/1 PR 1 - Update technology-categories.md
13:12:10 <kaz> mm: fixed a typo
13:13:00 <kaz> ... regarding the 2nd point, we should say "Geospatial data" instead of "Geolocation"
13:13:09 <kaz> mjk: yeah
13:13:17 <kaz> ... make sense
13:13:52 <kaz> ... spatial model for parking lot use case, etc.
13:15:15 <kaz> (some discussion about "knowledge graphs")
13:15:43 <kaz> mjk: we can just merge this for further discussion
13:15:44 <kaz> kaz: +1
13:15:49 <kaz> merged
13:16:28 <kaz> s/merged//
13:17:41 <mjk> q?
13:18:15 <McCool> McCool has joined #smart-cities
13:18:45 <kaz> mjk: (goes through "Time series and measurements")
13:18:58 <kaz> ... (also "Visualization")
13:18:58 <kaz> q+
13:22:57 <McCool> q+
13:24:04 <kaz> ack k
13:24:30 <kaz> ... (then "Analytics and automation")
13:25:27 <kaz> kaz: note that there is another resource around existing standards from external SDOs (=resources.md)
13:26:02 <kaz> ... and we should think about the relationship between this (=tchnology-categories.md) and that (=resources.md)
13:26:24 <kaz> ... also we should think about some specific use cases which refer back to these tech categories
13:26:28 <kaz> mjk: exactly
13:26:43 <kaz> s/... (then "Analytics and automation")/
13:26:50 <kaz> mjk: (then "Analytics and automation")
13:27:34 <kaz> (merged)
13:27:39 <kaz> subtopic: PR 2
13:28:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/2 PR 2 - Add ECHONET resources to resources.md
13:28:21 <kaz> mjk: already identified resources. right?
13:28:32 <kaz> kaz: yes, presented by Mr. Matsuda from ECHONET several times
13:28:36 <kaz> (merged)
13:28:39 <kaz> subtopic: PR 3
13:29:14 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/3 PR 3 - Add IEC SC3D resources to resources.md
13:29:37 <kaz> mjk: typo around the section title...
13:29:44 <kaz> ... (fixed it)
13:29:46 <kaz> (merged)
13:30:03 <kaz> subtopic: PR 4
13:30:06 <kaz> q+
13:30:09 <kaz> ack mc
13:30:47 <kaz> ack k
13:31:13 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/4 PR 4 - Add resources on IPA DADC to resources.md
13:31:22 <kaz> kaz: they're working on smart building
13:31:35 <kaz> ... and now launching a new consortium
13:31:46 <kaz> ... but their Web pages are not yet available
13:32:00 <kaz> ... so would add a bit old resources in Japanese
13:32:00 <kaz> mjk: that's fine
13:32:08 <kaz> s/Japanese/Japanese as a starting point/
13:32:13 <kaz> subtopic: PR 5
13:32:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/5 PR 5 - Add resources on ISO/IEC JTC1 WG11
13:33:23 <kaz> (merged)
13:33:34 <kaz> kaz: note that we've started liaison with SC41 also
13:33:47 <kaz> ... would ask Torbjorn about their resources too
13:33:58 <kaz> mjk: ah, yes
13:34:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:34:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz
13:34:25 <kaz> subtopic: PR 6
13:34:36 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/6 PR 6 - Add ITU-T SG20 resources to resources.md
13:34:48 <kaz> kaz: note that they have many documents :)
13:34:52 <kaz> mjk: right
13:35:15 <kaz> ... they also provide specifications around "Web of Things"
13:35:22 <kaz> kaz: probably from their viewpoint
13:35:46 <kaz> (merged)
13:36:00 <kaz> mm: would have another entry for ETSI/FIWARE around NGSI-LD
13:36:03 <kaz> kaz: yeah
13:36:07 <kaz> subtopic: PR 7
13:36:35 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/7 PR 7 - Add OGC resources to resources.md
13:37:00 <kaz> kaz: they provide various specifications for various technology categories
13:37:16 <kaz> ... some are strongly related to McCool's proposed tech categories
13:37:18 <kaz> mjk: right
13:37:21 <kaz> (merged)
13:37:48 <kaz> topic: NGSI-LD
13:38:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md resources.md
13:38:53 <kaz> kaz: maybe we can merge "ETSI" and "FIWARE" for NGSI-LD
13:40:02 <kaz> mm: think we can add a link to the NGSI-LD liaison from the WoT side
13:41:15 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld
13:41:32 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/blob/main/resources.md
13:42:41 <kaz> i/think/mjk: who generates the NGSI-LD standard itself?/
13:42:53 <kaz> i/think/kaz: that's ETSI/
13:43:24 <kaz> i/think/mjk: ok. in that case, would add a link for NGSI-LD to ETSI section./
13:44:07 <kaz> mm: the above link of "WoT/NGSI-LD Liaison" to be applied instead of copying all the identical links
13:44:24 <kaz> mjk: (adds a link for that)
13:44:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md#etsi resouces.md - ETSI section
13:45:39 <kaz> mjk: any issues with the resources.md at the moment?
13:45:41 <kaz> (none)
13:47:26 <kaz> topic: Monthly calls
13:47:40 <kaz> kaz: would start invite key stakeholders from related SDOs
13:47:51 <kaz> ... e.g., JTC1, IEC, ITU-T, ...
13:47:53 <McCool> (ntd soon)
13:49:16 <kaz> ... as you know, the IEC ontology workshop has been postponed till November
13:49:41 <kaz> ... so I'd suggest we invite the speakers from their workshop to our monthly calls
13:49:53 <kaz> ... and we participate in their workshop in November
13:50:03 <kaz> ... then we invite them again to our TPAC meeting
13:50:10 <kaz> mjk: sounds great!
13:50:17 <kaz> topic: Schedule
13:50:42 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/schedule.md schedule.md
13:50:54 <kaz> mjk: (goes through the basic schedule)
13:51:13 <kaz> kaz: invite stakeholders to our monthly calls
13:51:23 <kaz> mjk: then TPAC in November
13:51:26 <McCool> (ntd, sorry)
13:51:31 <kaz> ... December meeting will be cancelled
13:53:07 <kaz> kaz: note that after my generating this basic schedule, I've started to feel that we should concentrate on our basic survey on existing standards collaboratively with relates SDOs
13:53:27 <kaz> ... then for the next Charter period we should work on concrete use case discussion
13:53:30 <kaz> mjk: makes sense
13:54:28 <kaz> ... any other comments here?
13:54:30 <kaz> (none)
13:54:51 <kaz> topic: AOB?
13:55:00 <kaz> mjk: any other business for today?
13:55:01 <kaz> (none)
13:55:05 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:55:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:55:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/28-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz
15:34:14 <Zakim> Zakim has left #smart-cities