15:58:48 RRSAgent has joined #aria-editors 15:58:52 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/04/09-aria-editors-irc 15:58:52 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:58:53 Meeting: ARIA Editors 15:59:58 zakim, read agenda from https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/733a21b1-bdfa-4f93-9e86-14eb807941c2/20250409T120000/#agenda 15:59:58 working on it, pkra 15:59:59 done reading agenda, pkra 16:00:08 agenda? 16:00:43 agenda+ Problem 2 of "Characteristics of Roles section needs tidying up" aria #1263 16:00:51 agenda+ SVG-AAM accname revisions (and the broader question from Melanie on moving similar sections to accname) svg-aam #31 16:00:56 agenda+ continued aria.js work aria #2501: how much can we refactor out of existence? (Cf. aria #1897 16:02:30 spectranaut_ has joined #aria-editors 16:02:33 mgarrish has joined #aria-editors 16:03:32 present rahim 16:03:35 present spectranaut_ 16:03:39 present mgarrish 16:03:44 present jnurthen 16:03:53 present+ 16:04:00 present? 16:04:15 zakim, next item 16:04:15 agendum 1 -- Problem 2 of "Characteristics of Roles section needs tidying up" aria #1263 -- taken up [from pkra] 16:04:38 https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/188/views/1 16:05:48 jamesn has joined #aria-editors 16:06:47 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1263 16:07:02 pkra: since my PR only addresses part of this, I'm wondering what to do about the rest. 16:15:03 ... discussed in the group. we want to update the presentational children section. 16:15:10 ... pkra will split out a new issue 16:16:35 jnurthen: what about the abstract role part? 16:16:54 ... another case of booleans. And the characteristics tables use yet another phrasing 16:17:11 pkra: name required is also true/false in tables 16:17:35 jnurthen: and not even mentioned. I think there was an issue filed to get that. 16:18:07 pkra: I'll split out more issues then. 16:18:16 zakim, next item 16:18:16 agendum 2 -- SVG-AAM accname revisions (and the broader question from Melanie on moving similar sections to accname) svg-aam #31 -- taken up [from pkra] 16:20:48 pkra: not really about Melanie's question whether to move accname pieces from AAMs into accname. 16:21:05 s/not really/really 16:21:45 ... I wanted to bring this up here. 16:23:28 jnurthen: not sure about it. The markup groups could decide they want to specify accnames itself. Feels better to have it separate. 16:23:44 pkra: but then we could just remove it? 16:24:33 jnurthen: but accname is just about aria. It would be overcomplicated. 16:24:55 rahim: I think Melanie asked about just moving the pieces over. 16:25:14 jnurthen: ok. Still, I feel it would be cleaner to start "is this aria? If not, go look at other spec" 16:25:23 spectranaut_: we should give feedback on that PR 16:25:31 zakim, next item 16:25:31 agendum 3 -- continued aria.js work aria #2501: how much can we refactor out of existence? (Cf. aria #1897 -- taken up [from pkra] 16:26:38 pkra: looking at issues blocked by the refactoring work. 16:26:41 ... came upon https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1897 16:28:44 ... which made me wonder whether we want to tackle that and what that would mean. 16:30:20 mgarrish: I think this is just about exporting definitions. 16:30:34 jnurthen: right. we only export the ones we need across specs. 16:30:50 ... not sure how useful some are. 16:35:22 ... we should ask Don what's needed. 16:35:55 pkra: ok I'll ask Dom what it would take. 16:36:01 ... when I get back to this issue. 16:36:49 zakim, end meeting 16:36:49 As of this point the attendees have been pkra 16:36:50 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 16:36:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/09-aria-editors-minutes.html Zakim 16:36:58 I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 16:36:58 Zakim has left #aria-editors