11:58:36 RRSAgent has joined #wot 11:58:41 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-irc 11:58:44 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 11:58:54 present+ Kaz_Ashimura 11:59:00 rrsagent, make log publicc 11:59:04 s/rrsagent, make log publicc// 11:59:05 rrsagent, make log public 11:59:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 11:59:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:00:19 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#2_April_2025 12:01:40 present+ Michael_Koster, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:03:00 dezell has joined #wot 12:03:14 present+ David_Ezell 12:03:27 present+ Ben_Francis 12:03:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:03:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:03:46 chair: McCool 12:04:09 present+ Michael_McCool 12:04:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:04:12 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:04:47 present+ Ege_Korkan 12:04:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:04:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:06:19 q+ 12:06:22 matsuda has joined #wot 12:06:33 McCool has joined #wot 12:06:46 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:06:47 q- 12:07:08 mjk has joined #wot 12:07:36 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 12:07:46 scribenick: mjk 12:07:48 present+ Mahda_Noura 12:07:57 present+ Charith_Perera 12:08:06 topic: Members 12:08:14 mm: Mahmood Afshari - presentation scheduled for April 9, 2025. 12:08:22 ... Koster chairing next week 12:08:35 topic: Minutes 12:08:37 s/Members/Guests, New Members and IEs/ 12:08:39 topic: minutes review 12:08:43 mahda has joined #wot 12:08:57 i/Mahmood/scribenick: McCool/ 12:09:02 scribenick: mjk 12:09:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:09:12 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:09:18 present+ Mahda_Noura 12:10:27 dape has joined #wot 12:10:36 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html Mar-26 12:10:47 mm: any objections to the minutes? 12:11:01 ... no objections, minutes approved 12:11:17 topic: Quick Items 12:11:25 mm: summer time has started 12:12:02 mm: I need to step down as WoT co-chair due to company needs 12:12:20 ... we still have 2 co-chairs 12:12:34 ... will still attend meetings 12:13:00 ... will step down from Use Case TF also 12:13:34 ... will continue with NGSI-LD for a while but we should find someone to take over 12:13:59 ... Koster will take over the chair duties during April 12:14:18 q+ 12:15:49 mm: there is an increased interest in AI and edge computing at Intel 12:15:51 q+ 12:16:37 bf: thank you for everything you have done 12:17:05 kaz: technically, the announcement needs to be done officially by the W3C team 12:17:24 q- 12:17:27 ack b 12:17:29 Thanks very much, Michael. Nine years is a long time. 12:17:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:17:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:18:07 Charith has joined #wot 12:18:15 topic: Notices 12:18:29 topic: Meetups 12:18:53 s/topic: Notices// 12:19:19 s/topic: Minutes// 12:19:28 s/topic: minutes review/topic: Minutes review/ 12:19:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:19:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:19:47 ege: the HiveOT presentation has some specific suggestions for the WoT standard 12:20:02 q+ 12:20:25 mm: we should think about IoT devices as clients 12:20:44 ... there could also be device shadow services 12:22:14 mm: how do we capture what we learn from these events? 12:22:29 ege: in the minutes and record 12:22:36 mm: we could create an issue 12:23:14 kaz: we should consider these suggestions as concrete input, using issues and use case process as needed 12:23:35 ack k 12:23:56 mm: we could now open the use case process to external parties 12:25:14 kaz: for today, we can create an issue for this specific question 12:26:38 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1228 12:26:53 mm: (creates issue #1228 for capturing input from CG meetups) 12:27:30 mm: we need a plan for the inactive WoT JP CG 12:28:22 subtopic: Web based digital twin for smart cities 12:28:24 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html Mar-24 minutes 12:28:55 kaz: the interest group had a call on March 24th 12:29:19 -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md resources.md 12:29:25 ... created and populated the resources directory 12:29:50 ... reaffirmed that we will work on web based digital twins for smart cities 12:29:53 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-smart-cities/2025Apr/0000.html announcement 12:30:03 ... the next meeting is April 28th 12:30:21 ... consistently on the last Monday of each month 12:30:56 luca_barbato has joined #wot 12:31:04 kaz: will join the IEC JTC1 workshop on April 25th to talk about smart city ontologies 12:31:50 s/will/fyi, will/ 12:31:53 mm: this is also a big activity for the NGSI-LD group 12:32:05 s|IEC JTC1|ISO/IEC JTC1| 12:32:25 mm: is it an open workshop? 12:32:48 kaz: will check with the organizer to see how to join 12:33:06 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:33:24 q+ 12:33:34 mm: is there an agenda for April 28th? 12:33:46 kaz: continue to work on resources 12:33:53 present+ Luca_Barbato 12:34:01 mm: it would be good to invite the NGSI-LD people 12:34:02 q? 12:34:18 subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG 12:34:25 s/resources/resources. also would invite stakeholders from SDOs./ 12:34:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:34:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:34:58 q+ 12:35:15 ege: there is a researcher looking for use cases for a streaming RDF protocol 12:35:24 i|HiveOT pre|subtopic: WoT CG| 12:36:32 i|we need a plan|subtopic: WoT JP CG| 12:36:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:36:35 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:37:35 kaz: we should add this project to the Smart City IG resources 12:37:48 s/subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG// 12:37:49 subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG 12:37:53 subtopic: cloud edge client coordination CG 12:38:01 s/subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG// 12:38:10 subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG 12:38:17 s/subtopic: cloud-edge coordination CG// 12:38:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:38:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:38:54 mm: this group is my new priority and aligns with the new work 12:38:56 s/cloud edge client/Cloud edge client/ 12:39:08 q+ 12:39:11 ack e 12:39:19 ack k 12:39:49 regrets+ Sebastian 12:39:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:40:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:40:11 topic: Liaisons 12:40:30 mm: any updates on Liaisons? 12:40:56 Topic: Schedule 12:41:12 mm: please let us know about holiday schedules 12:41:28 Topic: Policies 12:41:42 mm: there are 2 PRs on policies 12:41:56 ... first the policy adoption policy 12:42:17 s/Liaisons?/Liaisons? need Sebastian about OPC liaison. didn't have NGSI-Liaison call this week./ 12:42:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:42:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:42:27 ... it was too complicated to use a separate directory for proposals 12:42:42 ... the new policy policy is simple and reflects what we actually do 12:43:20 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1227 PR 1227 - Update policy-adoption.md 12:44:08 ... we create PRs for new policy proposals in the policies directory, and discuss and update until we achieve consensus 12:44:22 mm: any comments or changes? 12:45:03 mm: would like to approve the new policy adoption policy today 12:45:10 ... any objections? 12:45:26 ... no objections, will create a resolution 12:46:01 proposal: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1227 to update the procedure for adopting new policies. Since this PR has been around for a while, the new policy will take effect immediately. 12:46:24 mm: any objections ? 12:46:29 resolution: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1227 to update the procedure for adopting new policies. Since this PR has been around for a while, the new policy will take effect immediately. 12:46:36 ... merged PR #127 12:46:44 s/127/1227 12:47:18 mm: the IE policy is next but needs a couple of changes 12:47:39 ... added a time commitment to the requirement 12:48:35 q+ 12:48:37 bf: don't think a specific number of hours per week is practical 12:49:11 mm: it is ambiguous whether it is every week, or an average 12:49:29 q+ 12:50:03 mm: we could have people state their time commitment, but not have a set number of hours 12:50:40 q? 12:50:46 ack k 12:51:40 ege: is some of this policy retroactive? 12:51:48 i|the IE policy is|subtopic: IE policy| 12:52:16 i|the IE policy is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1226 WoT PR 1226 - Update invited-expert.md to include time| 12:52:19 mm: chairs can remove IEs if there is an issue with contribution 12:52:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:52:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:52:49 i|first the policy adoption|subtopic: Policy adoption policy| 12:52:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:52:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:54:06 mm: does the change look OK? 12:54:11 bf: OK 12:54:42 q? 12:54:44 ack e 12:55:04 proposal: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1226, updating the Invited Expert policy so that candidates are requested to state their time commitment clearly, but we will not require any specific amount of time per week. 12:55:25 mm: any objections? 12:55:33 resolution: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1226, updating the Invited Expert policy so that candidates are requested to state their time commitment clearly, but we will not require any specific amount of time per week. 12:55:40 ... merged 12:56:46 topic: Profiles 12:57:18 mm: Ben Francis would like to co-moderate the Profile TF 12:57:33 proposal: Accept Ben Francis as co-moderator of the Profiles TF. 12:57:44 q? 12:57:45 q+ 12:57:51 mm: any comments or changes to the proposal? 12:58:19 kaz: we need to clarify the procedure for moderator appointment 12:58:26 q- 12:58:35 mm: the procedure is a resolution by default 12:58:39 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 12:58:46 s/we need/I'm OK with the proposal itself, but we need/ 12:59:20 resolution: Accept Ben Francis as co-moderator of the Profiles TF. 12:59:21 mm: any comments or objections? 12:59:43 Proposed WoT Profiles Plan 2025 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bkIXVw3FHP8uJzn53t5GcRNqZq2gqITDfBlcKn7fdiY/edit?usp=sharing 13:00:45 bf: the proposal is to restart Profiles meetings in May and decide how to proceed with Profiles 1.0 13:01:28 mm: Any other business for today? 13:01:52 ege: The logo for dark backgrounds is approved 13:02:03 q+ 13:02:26 q- 13:02:37 mm: adjourned 13:02:45 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:02:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/04/02-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:02:50 TallTed has joined #wot 14:05:02 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot 14:08:21 EgeKork__ has joined #wot 15:06:48 Zakim has left #wot