12:07:22 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:07:26 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-irc 12:07:26 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:07:38 scribenick: sebastian 12:08:05 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#26_March_2025 12:08:10 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Ege_Korkan 12:08:16 regrets+ David_Ezell 12:08:23 chair: McCool 12:08:30 rrsagent, make log public 12:08:34 topic: Guests, IE 12:08:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:08:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:08:43 MM: we have no guest today 12:08:47 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:09:10 mm: Mahmood Afshari - presentation scheduled for April 9, 2025 12:09:15 ... there is a potential IE, Mahmoud Afshari. Will meet April 9th 12:09:33 topic: Minutes 12:09:56 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/12-wot-minutes.html 12:11:04 MM: we have a policy PR for today 12:11:40 s/html/html March-12/ 12:11:40 MM: we should do a resolution about the WoT logo today 12:12:03 MM: any objection to the minutes? 12:12:08 12:12:24 topic: Quick items 12:13:23 MM: we need to decide about the alternative WoT logos 12:16:08 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0005.html 12:17:06 proposed: Allow the proposed alternative logos (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0005.html 12:17:06 ) as official WoT logos where appropriate. 12:17:10 +1 12:17:11 s|https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0005.html|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0005.html Ege's message about the new WoT logo| 12:17:24 proposed: Allow the proposed alternative logos (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0005.html) as official WoT logos where appropriate. 12:17:26 i|we need|subtopic: WoT logo| 12:18:06 mjk has joined #wot 12:18:09 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0001.html 12:18:23 s/0005/0001/ 12:18:55 proposed: Allow the proposed alternative logos (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0001.html) as official WoT logos where appropriate. 12:19:40 q+ 12:19:46 MM: some variations of logos depending what kind of color is used in the background 12:19:55 MM: any objections? 12:20:01 12:20:22 Kaz: We we check with Coralie about this again? 12:20:24 resolution: Allow the proposed alternative logos (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0001.html) as official WoT logos where appropriate. 12:20:40 Ege: she is waiting for our resolution 12:20:51 s/we/ 12:21:36 MM: DST confusion has begun, however, is changing back again. 12:21:57 MM: any other quick items? 12:22:01 12:22:11 topic: Notices 12:22:23 MM: any new notices? 12:22:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:22:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:22:42 s/again/again next week 12:22:50 12:22:56 topic: Meetups 12:23:13 subtopic: WoT CG 12:23:40 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#26_March_2025 12:24:07 MM: next meeting take place this Thursday, March 27, 4pm CET 12:24:40 MM: would be great to have a WoT CG Youtube subscription kink 12:24:46 s/kink/link 12:26:14 MM: the topic on Thursday may interesting about the topic Things that acting only as client 12:26:46 MM: how many people are member of the WoT CG? 12:27:21 Ege: average, 20 people joining the meeting. Best number was around 40 12:27:48 subtopic: WoT JP CG 12:28:11 MM: WoT JP CG is currently inactive 12:28:20 ... suggest to merge to one CG 12:28:55 MM: how much time is needed to have a new plan? 12:29:42 TM: expect 2-3 months. First need to reach out to the community and ask what they want 12:29:58 q+ 12:30:01 subtopic: Smar Cities IG 12:30:02 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html Mar-24 Smart Cities IG minutes 12:30:09 s/Smar/Smart 12:30:16 s/Smar Cities/Smart Cities/ 12:30:41 Kaz: there was a call on Monday, March 24 12:31:05 q+ 12:31:15 ... started to discuss about existing resources and gathering information on the github repo 12:31:48 ... MM proposed to prioritize categories 12:32:25 MM: Smart Cities is a huge area 12:33:06 Kaz: there is a big list of topics that was like 4 pages long 12:33:23 q- 12:33:38 Kaz: next meeting take place on April 21st 12:34:03 s/long/long, but we should start with digital twin standards as our priority for "Web-based Digital Twins" :)/ 12:34:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:34:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:34:19 topic: Liaisons 12:34:41 subtopic: ECHONET 12:34:50 Kaz: no news 12:34:58 subtopic: Conexxus 12:35:21 MM: there was a meeting and discussion about security requirements 12:35:58 i|there|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0008.html Ege's notes| 12:36:00 ... a cash registry requires a firewall 12:36:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:36:02 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:37:20 ... that causes problems when you talk to devices behind a firewall. We discussed different options such as about net traversal 12:37:38 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0010.html McCool's additional comments 12:38:08 q+ 12:39:55 Kaz: interesting use case, we should discuss this in the next use case TF call 12:40:23 s/ in the next use case TF call/ during the use case call or the D call/ 12:40:27 q+ 12:41:40 Kaz: we should think about how to deal with proposed use cases. We can do this in the UC TF, but we can slo to this in the TD call 12:42:09 s/slo/also 12:42:52 MM: propose to discuss this special use case in the next TD call 12:43:44 topic: OPC UA 12:45:07 mm: new document almost ready, probably by end of week 12:45:27 ... looking to see if WoT members can review 12:46:46 ... this document describes what TDs look like when describing OPC UA interfaces, and how to map information from OPC UA node information into TD information model 12:47:15 ... basically an OPC UA binding 12:48:35 ege: note there was another document already published about connectivity (companion standard, how can use WoT TD to *onboard* devices, e.g. southbound) 12:48:53 topic: ETSI ISG CIM 12:49:00 MM: there was not meeting this week 12:49:09 ... next meeting will be April 14th 12:51:06 s/not/no 12:51:19 topic: Schedule 12:51:32 MM: next week, there is the Hannover fair (HMI) 12:52:20 -> A https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events 12:52:34 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates 12:52:49 Ege: there is a TD call today, but not tomorrow 12:53:21 MM: today is the breakout sessions 12:53:47 Ege: this information came too late 12:53:54 -> https://www.w3.org/2025/03/breakouts-day-2025/ Breakouts page 12:54:24 Ege: we will stay with today's TD call 12:54:44 topic: TF Reports 12:54:49 subtopic: TD 12:55:06 Ege: there is a resolution needed 12:55:06 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-wg/2025Mar/0002.html 12:55:42 s/https/-> https/ 12:55:46 s/html/html Proposed Resolution for Fixing the TD and TM 1.1 JSON Schemas/ 12:55:50 ... is a simple change 12:55:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:55:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:56:51 ... this fix will align JSON Schema with JSON-LD @context format 12:58:11 proposal: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2080 in order to update the TD 1.1 errata and JSON Schema validation for TDs and TMs to address an error. 12:59:18 resolution: Merge https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2080 in order to update the TD 1.1 errata and JSON Schema validation for TDs and TMs to address an error. 12:59:55 MM: we will do the Policy resolutions the next time 13:00:10 adjourn 13:00:11 @@@ 13:00:15 [adjourned] 13:00:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:02:13 s|@@@|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1227 wot PR 1227 - Update policy-adoption.md| 13:02:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:02:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:08:05 hyojin has joined #wot 13:21:56 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 13:45:53 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 13:53:10 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 13:53:10 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:53:10 sebastian has joined #wot 13:53:10 ktoumura has joined #wot 13:53:10 benfrancis has joined #wot 14:02:31 TallTed has joined #wot 14:04:16 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 14:07:37 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 14:08:57 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 15:07:55 Zakim has left #wot 15:59:55 bigbluehat has joined #wot 17:10:25 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 17:27:43 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 17:28:23 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot 19:10:49 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 19:26:45 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 19:43:50 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 21:02:20 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 21:11:50 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 21:29:02 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 21:45:00 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 22:12:59 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 22:33:06 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 22:50:49 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 23:08:26 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 23:13:43 EgeKorkan has joined #wot