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10:19:25 <breakout-bot> Meeting: W3C Global meetings structure - Focus on AC meetings
10:19:25 <breakout-bot> Chair: Alexandra Lacourba
10:19:25 <breakout-bot> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2025/issues/13
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13:03:31 <koalie> present: avneesh_singh, ralph_swick, chris_needham(cpm), xueyuan_jia, zhenjie_li, amy-van-der-hiel
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13:05:07 <koalie> chair: alex
13:05:11 <amy> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2025JanMar/0056.html -> Avneesh's mail to ac-forum
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13:05:25 <angel> present+
13:05:36 <koalie> alex: Thanks for attending
13:05:55 <koalie> ... this meeting is under our code of conduct
13:06:01 <koalie> ... the topic is meetings structure
13:06:06 <koalie> ... today let's focus on AC meetings
13:06:19 <koalie> ... if you didn't read the description of this session, let me remind you
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13:06:30 <koalie> ... we're assessing meetings structure
13:06:31 <amy> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6269dcfb-9958-42df-97de-d41804191ccf/ -> W3C Global meetings structure - Focus on AC meetings breakout description
13:06:35 <koalie> present+ cwilso
13:06:52 <koalie> Alex: the process mandates two ac meetings per year
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13:06:57 <koalie> ... we welcome your feedback
13:06:58 <cwilso> present+
13:07:04 <amy> https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2025/issues/13 -> Session proposal on GH
13:07:04 <koalie> ... aiming to improve AC meetings
13:07:12 <alex>     Why are you attending the AC meeting? Or why don’t you attend?
13:07:12 <alex>     What would you like to see in those meetings that would make you attend?
13:07:19 <koalie> ... we have a set of questions, to help frame the discussion
13:07:43 <koalie> ... please q+ to respond
13:08:51 <cwilso> q+
13:08:54 <koalie> Alex: what improvements can we make to increase participation is another question
13:08:57 <koalie> ack f
13:09:06 <alex> ack fantasai
13:09:14 <koalie> fantasai: I attend because I have an interest in W3C's governance and process
13:09:26 <koalie> ... I've also attended some of the japanese member meetings
13:09:30 <amy> present+
13:09:36 <koalie> ... a great way to keep people up-to-date on what's happening
13:09:43 <koalie> ... I'd love for us to engage more people
13:09:52 <angel> q+
13:09:57 <koalie> ... I agree with cwilso to open up to more people so that they develop an interest
13:10:08 <koalie> ... those could be observers at AC portions
13:10:24 <alex> ack Chris
13:10:35 <koalie> ack cw
13:10:53 <koalie> cwilso: The reason I attend AC meetings is an interest in participating in W3c's governance
13:11:17 <koalie> ... there was an attempt in the past to make the AC meeting a bit more like what the japanese member meetings are
13:11:21 <koalie> ... but that was weird
13:11:28 <koalie> ... as AC meetings aren't the same nature
13:11:54 <koalie> ... the people who participate in AC meetings are specific
13:12:15 <koalie> ... unless you have a strong narrative to the meeting, the hard part is "it's breakout day" or "another TPAC"
13:12:21 <koalie> ... it's not a bad idea
13:12:39 <koalie> ... it would probably be good to be clear about what parts are governance,
13:12:44 <koalie> ... clarify their narrative
13:12:49 <koalie> ... and then have more breakouts
13:12:58 <koalie> ... if you want to increase the number of people, it would need to be more open
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13:13:14 <alex> 354 Members
13:13:21 <koalie> ... there's only one AC rep for member [and one alternate optional] and there are 350 members
13:13:28 <koalie> ack ang
13:13:33 <alex> ack angel
13:13:58 <koalie> angel: we've tried very hard to invite members to join and discuss but we didn't manage to invite as many as we wanted
13:14:19 <koalie> ... why won't Chinese companies attend? I came up with 3 topic that might attract them
13:14:27 <koalie> ... 1) they're supposed to advise us
13:14:35 <koalie> ... specific topic we want their advice one
13:14:38 <koalie> s/one/on
13:14:43 <koalie> ... so that they can prepare
13:15:01 <koalie> ... 2) annotate informative sessions on the agenda
13:15:12 <koalie> ... come up with a list of questions where we need input
13:15:17 <fantasai> +1 angel to using the meeting to collect input
13:15:20 <amy> q+ to mention the purpose of the AC meeting (as part of process and distinct from TPAC) + Angel's point on how AC participate
13:15:25 <koalie> s/2) ann/ann/
13:15:50 <koalie> ... 2) in the northem hemisphese spring, this is when people figure out their yearly strategy
13:15:58 <koalie> s/phese/phere/
13:16:19 <koalie> ... perhaps we could make it so that they get back to their company some things that are useful
13:16:25 <koalie> ... at the technical level
13:16:35 <koalie> ... 3) problem-solving and decision-making
13:16:42 <koalie> ... we have formal objections mechanisms
13:16:47 <koalie> ... we some them asynchronously
13:16:57 <koalie> ... Team reaches out, understands concerns, solves problems
13:17:12 <koalie> ... from my experience when I worked in Industry, I had to be there, present my proposals
13:17:18 <koalie> ... talk to people
13:17:27 <koalie> ... and it helped a lot to be f2f to solve problems
13:17:43 <koalie> ... councils asynchronous work could be sped up by being part of the AC meeting
13:17:51 <koalie> ... or make any decision
13:17:56 <koalie> ... if it helps
13:18:03 <koalie> q?
13:18:16 <koalie> Alex: yes, this has been already discussed [decision making]
13:18:22 <koalie> ... the AC is more a reporting meeting
13:18:34 <fantasai> s/at the technical level/at the technical level by discussing technical strategy and upcoming developments in technology
13:18:35 <koalie> ... within the Team we noticed we might have more attendees
13:18:42 <koalie> ... if we included decision making
13:18:44 <koalie> ack amy
13:18:44 <Zakim> amy, you wanted to mention the purpose of the AC meeting (as part of process and distinct from TPAC) + Angel's point on how AC participate
13:18:47 <alex> ack Amy
13:18:50 <amy> https://www.w3.org/policies/process/#ACMeetings
13:18:52 <fantasai> angel++
13:19:07 <koalie> amy: i wanted to touch upon the purpose of the AC meetings as outlined in the process
13:19:11 <koalie> ... which can be expanded
13:19:15 <koalie> ... this is exciting
13:19:23 <koalie> ... there are conversations for how to do so
13:19:36 <koalie> ... process requires AC meeting to update the AC about resources, allocation, etc.
13:19:41 <koalie> ... reporting is very important
13:19:55 <koalie> ... so that we can be held accountable
13:20:08 <koalie> ... but this doesn't have to be the main focus
13:20:09 <angel> s/ some them asynchronously/solve them asynchronously
13:20:20 <koalie> ... AC reps and AB and TAG, and Board and Chairs all have important roles to play
13:20:42 <koalie> ... +1 to Angel's examples
13:20:53 <fantasai> +1 to reporting being important, and also expanding beyond that
13:20:59 <koalie> ... I think it's worth focusing on what needs attention
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13:21:21 <koalie> Alex: the Team made an analysis
13:21:23 <alex> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FBmNssDskp5C7ykjsmEKSDMQpFfXQWFAqW63f6LGBqo/edit?tab=t.0
13:21:32 <koalie> ... we tried to identify the things that prevent people from attending
13:21:39 <koalie> ... e.g., budget constraints, travel restrictions
13:22:08 <koalie> ... any insights on aspects preventing people from attending AC meetings? (but don't prevent them from attending TPAC)
13:22:19 <angel> q+
13:22:25 <koalie> ack angel
13:22:25 <AvneeshSingh> q+
13:22:26 <alex> ack angel
13:22:37 <amy> Alex's analysis document is really worth diving into
13:22:42 <koalie> angel: maybe we don't need to restrict attendance to AC reps or Chairs only
13:22:53 <koalie> ... because we don't make decisions, we don't count votes
13:23:31 <koalie> ... if organizations want to learn about how this organization is doing, and cares, and wants to listen, we should accept those members
13:23:40 <koalie> ack av
13:23:40 <alex> ack Avneesh
13:23:53 <koalie> AvneeshSingh: as Amy mentions, discussions in the group [AB?]
13:24:11 <koalie> ... what happens in Daisy Consortium:
13:24:23 <koalie> ... people come together to have discussions of business relationships
13:24:28 <amy> I see the point of expanding the meeting but inviting people who do not have the the role to vote. i know we want more participation but we have 100s of AC, if they all came that would be a lot of participation
13:24:39 <koalie> AvneeshSingh: we poll our members regularly
13:24:45 <koalie> ... they say they need longer breaks
13:24:55 <koalie> ... so that they can meet more people, form more plans
13:25:20 <amy> +1 to Avneesh  on opportunity to meet community, form plans to work together, making relationships, business benefits
13:25:26 <koalie> ... people get budget approval as they know there will be busines benefits if they go there
13:25:34 <amy> looking at this from the Member-value point of view is important
13:25:40 <cpn> q+
13:25:51 <alex> ack cpn
13:26:11 <koalie> cpn: @@
13:26:17 <koalie> ... I also agree with Avneesh
13:26:25 <koalie> ... I found it's a benefit of attending AC meetings
13:26:34 <koalie> ... TPAC is so oriented on technical work
13:26:46 <koalie> ... for me a separate space for governance is useful
13:27:07 <koalie> ... I make good connections with people in the industry through AC Meetings
13:27:20 <koalie> ... it would be interesting to hear from people about topics that they want to be bringing into W3C
13:27:28 <koalie> ... e.g., we're proposing the exploration IG
13:27:38 <amy> +1 to cpn it's interesting if we think of TPAC as the tech that is happening and the AC as the strategy for what we see coming
13:27:42 <koalie> ... we heard last year's AC meeting mostly from the Team about the topics they've explored
13:27:48 <koalie> ... and see if there's wider interest
13:27:52 <cwilso> q+
13:27:55 <koalie> ... that sparked good discussions at the time
13:28:01 <fantasai> +1 amy
13:28:09 <koalie> ... recognising what cwilso said about breakouts: this is the way to do that
13:28:25 <koalie> ... so representative themselves may be too narrow a group to have those technical work conversations
13:28:36 <koalie> ... I'd like to hear about that at AC meeting; what people want to bring to W3C
13:28:47 <fantasai> Ideas from the AB F2F session about redesigning the AC meetings -> https://github.com/w3c/AB-memberonly/issues/256#issuecomment-2640163531
13:28:51 <koalie> ... the only way to do that is to have a wider set of participants
13:29:05 <koalie> ack cwilso
13:29:07 <alex> ack Chris
13:29:26 <koalie> cwilso: I wanted to respond
13:29:38 <koalie> ... what companies are involved is and what size they are
13:29:49 <koalie> ... the AC meeting isn't a strategic planning meeting for Google
13:30:02 <koalie> ... it's probably true for most large companies
13:30:17 <koalie> [Sue Koomen arrives]
13:30:25 <koalie> present+ Sue-Koomen
13:30:52 <koalie> ... if you get @@ you'd get more people to pay more attention
13:30:55 <amy> q+ to respond re: strategy
13:31:02 <koalie> ... it's not the strategic planning for the company as a whole
13:31:30 <koalie> ... if you want to focus on health of W3C as a consortium, it's a different set of people and a small group of people
13:31:43 <koalie> ... it's not the strategy for the member company
13:31:51 <koalie> ... what the value is intended to be is the most important thing
13:32:15 <koalie> ... right now google sends to AC those that are the most effective
13:32:21 <koalie> ... me, jeffrey yasskin
13:32:23 <alex> ack Amy
13:32:23 <Zakim> amy, you wanted to respond re: strategy
13:32:26 <koalie> ... @@@
13:32:42 <koalie> s/... @@@/... if there are other areas, it would be other people/
13:32:45 <koalie> ack amy
13:33:14 <koalie> amy: if the AC is for reporting, it would @@
13:33:29 <koalie> ... it could be reports on where things are heading, planning, allocations
13:33:38 <cwilso>  s/effective/relevant to "running Google's engagement with W3C"
13:33:42 <koalie> ... Chris's point about the value of meetings is a good one
13:33:57 <koalie> ... connections, discovering members, talking about impact
13:34:09 <koalie> ... all of these are plausible
13:34:15 <koalie> s/plausible/important/
13:34:16 <cwilso> s/it's probably true for most large companies/that's probably true for most large companies at least, if not all
13:34:19 <AvneeshSingh> q+
13:34:40 <koalie> ... I was trying to reframe it from this body is supposed to deal with this or that, apologies if I used "strategy" incorrectly
13:34:43 <koalie> ack av
13:34:48 <alex> ack Avneesh
13:35:19 <koalie> AvneeshSingh: governance from AB and BoD, maybe a little different
13:35:38 <koalie> ... if we provide an opportunity to discuss resource allocations
13:36:02 <koalie> ... the management team can refer back to advice
13:36:10 <koalie> ... and the AC will be felt heard
13:36:13 <amy> +1 to provide opportunity to AC say where resources go, eg: sustainability. not to define but that input is valued
13:36:16 <koalie> ... and as contributors to the future of W3C
13:36:24 <koalie> ... this is another way to engage the AC
13:36:36 <koalie> ... in governance, which is different from that of the AB and Board
13:36:49 <cwilso> +1
13:36:58 <koalie> ... if you end up thinking AC meetings are too popular, should we talk about having two TPACs a year?
13:37:02 <amy> +1 to AC being primary contact in org and the need to make them feel valued
13:37:21 <koalie> alex: let's hear fantasai and then talk about two tpacs a year
13:37:22 <koalie> ack f
13:37:32 <alex> ack fantasai
13:37:53 <koalie> fantasai: I don't think the goal is to develop the strategy of the comapnies participating
13:37:56 <koalie> ... but W3C itself
13:38:10 <koalie> ... there's a much more limited scope of strategy
13:38:21 <koalie> ... we're going to have topics of governance, resource allocations
13:38:26 <koalie> ... input, not just reporting
13:38:36 <koalie> ... but also, to bring awareness about what W3C is doing, considering doing
13:38:50 <koalie> ... and inviting people to participate
13:39:07 <koalie> ... we need several aspects to the AC meeting
13:39:13 <koalie> ... in terms of bringing in more people
13:39:46 <koalie> ... I got involved into governance as an observer at an AC meeting from my participation in the Process Document
13:40:00 <koalie> ... openness to participation is one of the great strengths of W3C
13:40:32 <koalie> ... what can we do to support the kind of planning we want
13:40:56 <koalie> alex: the AC rep may not be the right person to cover both governance and technical topics
13:41:07 <koalie> ... we thought opening the meetings more widely might help us
13:41:15 <fantasai> s/but W3C itself/but of W3C itself and of the companies' participation in W3C/
13:41:39 <koalie> ack f
13:41:41 <alex> ack elika
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13:42:15 <koalie> fantasai: Avneesh I think said it's important to have a meeting where AC meetings feel valued
13:42:25 <koalie> ... so not just two tpacs
13:42:32 <koalie> ... what I think about two TPACs:
13:42:48 <koalie> ... people might not be able to attend two
13:43:15 <koalie> ... we will lose some of the benefits we have today
13:43:15 <cwilso> q+
13:43:27 <koalie> ... try to develop a different prupose for the AC meeting
13:43:39 <koalie> ... figure out how to make it more concret
13:43:40 <alex> ack Cwilson
13:43:40 <koalie> ack cw
13:43:57 <fantasai> s/people/groups (and therefore participants)/
13:44:06 <koalie> cwilso: I do agree 2 TPACs a year, replicated the same way, would diminish the value of both of them overall
13:44:12 <koalie> ... but this breakout day is a good idea
13:44:27 <koalie> ... I'd encourage making a hybrid event instead of purely remote
13:44:35 <koalie> ... so you have the possibility of "people there"
13:44:40 <koalie> ... as Elika mentioned
13:45:06 <koalie> s/prup/purp/
13:45:25 <koalie> ... I do think the value of breakouts in particular has been tremendous
13:45:40 <cpn> q+
13:45:40 <koalie> ... cross-pollination you can do with breakouts too
13:45:45 <fantasai> s/about having two TPACs a year?/about having two TPACs a year? I think it would be a mistake. It's important to make the AC feel engaged and valued/
13:45:49 <koalie> ack cp
13:45:54 <alex> ack cp
13:45:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-meetings-session-minutes.html fantasai
13:46:05 <koalie> cpn: I like where cwilso is going with that
13:46:05 <koalie> ... hybrid + strong governance angle
13:46:19 <koalie> ... to preserve AC meeting and extend with tech strategy and breakouts
13:46:29 <koalie> ... breakouts could attract new people
13:46:32 <koalie> ... to attend in person
13:46:47 <koalie> ... I also very strongly agree not too try to replicate the full TPAC experience twice a year
13:46:52 <koalie> ... for reasons I gave already
13:46:58 <fantasai> s/... if you get @@ /cwilso: if you get @@/
13:47:02 <koalie> ... +1 to cwilso's line of thought
13:47:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-meetings-session-minutes.html fantasai
13:47:35 <koalie> Alex: Thank you
13:47:39 <koalie> ... any other comments?
13:47:48 <alex> ack fantasai
13:48:03 <koalie> fantasai: a question to take back is how can we support the membership
13:48:16 <koalie> ... engagement on the strategy and governance of W3C
13:48:40 <koalie> ... as well as support the development and their strategy to engage with W3C
13:48:56 <koalie> ... help them understand what we're doing, what they might want to get involved in
13:48:59 <amy> q+ to ask about "take back"
13:49:03 <koalie> ... technically and organizationally
13:49:09 <koalie> ack am
13:49:09 <Zakim> amy, you wanted to ask about "take back"
13:49:11 <alex> ack amy
13:49:34 <angel> q+
13:49:39 <alex> ack angel
13:49:39 <koalie> ack an
13:49:45 <koalie> angel: one question:
13:49:46 <fantasai> s/and their strategy to engage/of their strategy for engaging/
13:50:01 <koalie> ... are we expecting a big change of meeting format for the next AC meeting?
13:50:11 <koalie> ... it would be good if people could get prepared.
13:50:22 <koalie> Alex: I was going to mention it in the wrap up
13:50:26 <koalie> ====
13:50:31 <koalie> Alex: wrap-up:
13:50:34 <koalie> ... thanks very much
13:50:39 <koalie> ... we'll discuss more internally
13:50:47 <koalie> ... the goal is to make changes for next year
13:50:56 <koalie> ... this needs to be known within the next few months
13:51:10 <koalie> ... we need to be ready to experiment and adjust
13:51:29 <koalie> ... we'll have more information to share in the upcoming weeks
13:51:30 <koalie> ack f
13:51:39 <alex> ack fant
13:51:44 <koalie> fantasai: two specific changes we should to plan that will impact logistics:
13:51:52 <koalie> ... 1)opening up to observers outside of the AC reps
13:51:58 <cwilso> q+
13:52:00 <koalie> ... 2) extend to at least 3 days
13:52:21 <amy> -1 to opening up to overseers outside membership (there needs to be member confidentiality and some member benefit)
13:52:22 <koalie> ... make the 3rd day a hybrid breakouts day, if we can't fill up a 3rd AC meeting day
13:52:46 <koalie> ... I agree with Amy's irc comment
13:52:58 <koalie> ... open to W3C members and IEs, anybody that already have member access
13:53:03 <koalie> ... not open to the public in general
13:53:08 <koalie> ack cw
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13:53:11 <alex> ack chris
13:53:35 <koalie> cwilso: it is really important to define way ahead of time the value, so that people can plan to attend
13:53:36 <amy> s/overseers/observers from
13:53:38 <fantasai> Many people find it hard to travel for only a 2-day meeting, so extending to at least 3 days can help increase participation
13:53:54 <koalie> Alex: yes
13:54:09 <koalie> fantasai: I'm exciting about this
13:54:13 <koalie> ... this will be great
13:55:15 <koalie> Sue_Koomen: I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the AC, the value, why I should attend
13:55:35 <koalie> ... are you talking about the monthly meeeting? or another
13:55:40 <koalie> ... I'm trying to attend the monthly one
13:55:50 <koalie> ... but it hasn't an agenda so it ends up being an advisory board meeting
13:55:56 <koalie> ... also, W3c is so broad
13:56:03 <amy> q+ to clarify AC meeting from monthly AB-led meetings
13:56:04 <koalie> ... it's challenging to be driving purposes
13:56:10 <koalie> ... key to evolve that
13:56:36 <koalie> ack amy
13:56:36 <Zakim> amy, you wanted to clarify AC meeting from monthly AB-led meetings
13:56:37 <alex> ack amy
13:56:59 <koalie> amy: [introduces self, offers to help Sue]
13:57:22 <koalie> ... AC Meetings are for AC reps, chairs, team, etc. it's hybrid, and for plans for the future and reporting
13:57:41 <koalie> ... ab-led member meetings are monthly and remote about any questions members may have
13:57:56 <koalie> ... the former is Team-driven, the latter is member-driven
13:58:08 <koalie> ... I'm happy to talk to you further
13:58:10 <koalie> ack f
13:58:17 <alex> ack fan
13:58:29 <koalie> fantasai: the discussion today is about a once or twice a year in-person/hybrid meeting
13:59:03 <koalie> ... the next one is in two weeks in France
13:59:24 <koalie> ... today we discuss how to improve this meeting, change its format
13:59:33 <koalie> ... question: what would you like the AC meeting to be
13:59:46 <koalie> ... you can attend the AC meeting virtually too; not as fun but worth it
14:00:05 <koalie> amy: we try to make it fun for remote participants
14:00:47 <koalie> [scribe moves to next meeting]
14:00:48 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:00:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-meetings-session-minutes.html koalie
14:02:37 <xueyuan> xueyuan has left #meetings-session
15:28:58 <koalie> present=
15:30:26 <koalie> present: Amy_van-der-Hiel, Angel_Li, Anveesh_Singh, Chris_Needham(cpn), Chris_Wilson, Elika_Etemad(fantasai), Coralie_Mercier(koalie), Ralph_Swick, Sue_Koomen, Xueyuan_Jia, Zhenjie_Li
15:30:39 <koalie> present+ Alex_Lacourba
15:33:28 <koalie> s/W3c's/W3C's/
15:34:44 <koalie> s/specific topic we/identify specific topic we/
15:35:34 <koalie> s/wesolve/we resolve/
15:37:39 <koalie> s/cares, and wants/care/ and want/
15:37:58 <koalie> s/accept those members/accept more reps from those members/
15:38:52 <koalie> s/busines /business /
15:40:02 <koalie> s/representative them/representatives them/
15:40:39 <koalie> s/involved is/involved in/
15:43:07 <koalie> s/are too pop/are not too pop/
15:43:41 <koalie> s/comapnies/conmpanies/
15:45:08 <koalie> s/as an observer at an AC/by being invited by Ralph as an observer at an AC/
15:45:50 <koalie> s/where AC meetings feel /where AC reps feel /
15:46:18 <koalie> s/concret/concrete/
15:47:10 <koalie> s/not too try/not to try/
15:47:25 <koalie> s/I gave already/given already/
15:48:49 <koalie> i|chair: alex|Topic: Framing|
15:49:25 <koalie> i|fantasai: I attend|Topic: Discussion|
15:49:46 <koalie> i|Alex: wrap-up:|Topic: Wrap-up|
15:50:22 <koalie> s/should to plan/should plan/
15:50:32 <koalie> s/1)o/1) o/
15:51:28 <koalie> s/exciting about this/excited about this/
15:52:06 <koalie> i|Sue_Koomen: I'm|Topic: aside: distinction between AC meeting and AB-led Member meetings|
15:52:25 <koalie> s/of the AC,/of the AC Meeting,/
15:52:46 <koalie> s/W3c/W3C
15:54:03 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
15:54:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-meetings-session-minutes.html koalie
16:00:26 <koalie> Zakim, bye
16:00:26 <Zakim> Zakim has left #meetings-session
16:00:26 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Amy_van-der-Hiel, Angel_Li, Anveesh_Singh, Chris_Needham(cpn), Chris_Wilson, Elika_Etemad(fantasai), Coralie_Mercier(koalie),
16:00:26 <Zakim> ... Ralph_Swick, Sue_Koomen, Xueyuan_Jia, Zhenjie_Li, Alex_Lacourba
16:00:26 <koalie> RRSAgent, bye
16:00:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items