15:59:49 RRSAgent has joined #aria-editors 15:59:54 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-aria-editors-irc 15:59:54 RRSAgent, make logs Public 15:59:55 Meeting: ARIA Editors 16:01:40 present+ 16:01:42 scribe+ 16:03:12 zakim, agenda? 16:03:13 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda: 16:03:13 1. -> follow ups to removing common.css https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2462 [from agendabot] 16:03:13 2. -> revisit prettier automation https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2470 [from agendabot] 16:03:13 3. -> Provide the ARIA “Characteristics” data as JSON https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2445 [from agendabot] 16:03:15 4. -> status of graphics2.html https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2437 [from agendabot] 16:03:15 5. -> SVG-AAM Section 8.1 Name and Description needs rewrite https://github.com/w3c/svg-aam/issues/31 [from agendabot] 16:03:38 present+ Daniel 16:06:10 pkra: reminder: board is at https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/188/views/1 16:06:22 spectranaut_ has joined #aria-editors 16:06:44 ... put something in the agenda+ column. 16:06:46 ... https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/188/views/1 16:06:51 melsumner has joined #aria-editors 16:06:58 ... then I'll add it to the "short" agenda. 16:06:59 melsumner has left #aria-editors 16:07:32 ... let me know if you want to do it differently. 16:07:37 zakim, next item 16:07:37 agendum 1 -- -> follow ups to removing common.css https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2462 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:07:56 melsumner has joined #aria-editors 16:08:18 pkra: that's a follow up to my PR where I removed the stylesheets. 16:14:19 ... accname list styles 16:14:23 mel: assign an issue to me 16:14:25 pkra: thanks 16:15:38 spectranaut_: I ticked the other item 16:15:40 pkra: thanks. 16:15:55 ... the last one does actually depend on aria.js so I'll redirect that. 16:16:11 melsumner: where do we put styles? 16:16:31 pkra: in the accname spec right now. The others don't have any. Maybe TR design or respec want list styles. 16:16:34 zakim, next item 16:16:34 agendum 2 -- -> revisit prettier automation https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2470 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:16:47 pkra: prettier automation. 16:20:41 pkra: basically: we had it, then we accidentally disabled it b/c of forks. I re-activated it. Also, actions security. 16:21:08 spectranaut_: I like merging on main. 16:21:13 ... would it cause issues? 16:21:41 ... would it affect the changelog? 16:22:10 ... e.g., changelog links to commit that's not formatted. 16:24:07 Daniel: that doesn't sound too bad. Would only impact reviewers. 16:25:19 pkra: we could go back to dry-run but not continue on fail. 16:25:32 ... then formatting has to happen somewhere. 16:25:39 spectranaut_: I'm still +1 to run on main. 16:25:43 melsumner: +1 16:26:27 pkra: then we just need someone to work on it. 16:27:55 Daniel: I'll take a look 16:28:07 zakim, next item 16:28:07 agendum 3 -- -> Provide the ARIA “Characteristics” data as JSON https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2445 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:30:57 pkra: this seems to be a broader issue. Do we need more machine readable version of the ARIA specs? 16:31:08 ... do we want to do something? If so, what? 16:31:32 scotto: if we had something, we could pull in data into the various specs. E.g., html-aam pulling from core-aam. 16:31:55 ... I'm not sure what this issue's scope is though. 16:32:40 pkra: I think it's for ladybird 16:32:55 scotto: ok. for valdiators, I don't know what other tooling would do. 16:33:18 melsumner: I've been in projects where we extracted things into lists of thins. 16:33:26 ... my concern is: do we then have 2 things to maintain? 16:33:34 ... or do we reconsider our source of truth? 16:33:59 scotto: that's a good point. If we go this way, we should populate the spec from the data. 16:34:25 ... that obviously means that we're creating barriers for people using the spec. 16:35:56 pkra: ran into this while rewriting aria.js. Maybe keeping small json blobs in the spec could be a compromise. 16:36:37 spectranaut_: maybe we should think more about it while working on aria.js 16:38:50 aria.js PR: https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/2408 16:39:10 pkra: right. coming back to my PR, this work really needs another person to ground and speed it up. 16:45:24 melsumner: I might know somebody who could be interested 16:45:28 spectranaut_: I might have some time. 16:45:44 pkra: great! Let's see if we can find common times. 16:46:40 zakim, next item 16:46:40 agendum 4 -- -> status of graphics2.html https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/2437 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:47:49 pkra: I think we can remove the two files mentioned in the issue. 16:48:18 jamesn: those look odd. 16:48:23 ... I think we can. 16:48:41 Daniel: I think so. We can always revert / find it in the git repo 16:48:57 melsumner: I remember a similar file a client referenced. 16:49:18 ... which was causing confusion. Maybe it was this one. 16:49:56 jamesn: the requirements one is for 1.1. 16:50:37 scribe+ 16:50:44 pkra: great. What about graphics2.html? 16:50:56 melsumner: https://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT-TECHS/ 16:50:58 scribe- 16:51:03 jamesn: yeah, this looks old, too. 16:52:14 pkra: I'll make a PR. 16:52:20 zakim, next item 16:52:20 agendum 5 -- -> SVG-AAM Section 8.1 Name and Description needs rewrite https://github.com/w3c/svg-aam/issues/31 -- taken up [from agendabot] 16:53:44 pkra: what do we do about the SVG specs? This looks like a worthwhile thing but hard to get traction on. 16:56:10 ... I'm wondering how to find some new editors to move things forward. 17:01:43 zakim, end meeting 17:01:43 As of this point the attendees have been pkra, Daniel 17:01:43 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 17:01:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-aria-editors-minutes.html Zakim 17:01:51 I am happy to have been of service, pkra; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. 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