12:30:10 RRSAgent has joined #apa 12:30:14 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-apa-irc 12:30:14 RRSAgent, make logs Public 12:30:15 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina 12:31:13 agenda+ New on /TR 12:31:13 agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) - In progress (comments for review on the call expected): - 2025-02-28: [WebCodecs](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/97) 12:31:17 agenda+ [Comment review requests](https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review) 12:31:20 agenda+ [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues) 12:31:22 agenda+ Actions check-in 12:31:25 agenda+ Other business 12:31:27 agenda+ Be done 12:31:37 agenda? 12:31:56 zakim, clear agenda 12:31:56 agenda cleared 12:32:46 agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements 12:32:46 agenda+ [New on TR](http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html) 12:32:46 agenda+ [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) 12:32:46 agenda+ [Comment review requests](https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review) 12:32:49 agenda+ [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues) 12:32:51 agenda+ Actions check-in 12:32:54 agenda+ Other business 12:32:56 agenda+ Be done 12:33:34 agenda? 12:34:42 Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference 12:34:50 Date: 26 Mar 2025 12:34:55 Chair: Janina 13:46:35 bkardell_ has joined #apa 13:51:03 JonCohn has joined #apa 13:53:10 JonCohn has joined #apa 13:53:10 janina has joined #apa 13:53:10 jcraig has joined #apa 13:53:38 PaulG has joined #apa 13:56:45 matatk has joined #apa 13:56:51 agenda? 13:57:05 present+ 14:00:34 Eric_hind has joined #apa 14:00:35 present+ 14:00:38 present+ 14:00:56 Francis_Storr has joined #apa 14:01:01 present+ 14:01:05 agenda? 14:01:15 anssik has joined #apa 14:01:54 zakim, next item 14:01:54 agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina] 14:02:14 present+ 14:02:39 scribe+ 14:03:03 scribe: Eric_hind 14:03:03 Neha has joined #apa 14:03:05 present+ 14:03:15 scribe+ 14:03:26 rrsagent, make minutes 14:03:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-apa-minutes.html Neha 14:03:58 chiace2 has joined #apa 14:04:09 Janina: Call for consensus issues created - threshold not yet determined (see research questions archive) 14:04:12 q? 14:05:25 Dr_Keith has joined #apa 14:05:25 subtopic: well known breakout 14:05:32 present+ 14:05:36 Calendar entry; links to GitHub issue for more info: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/a6b80080-4af5-43f4-bc55-823cc6fdf8b7/ 14:06:23 matatk: Update on breakout 'well known', recording to be made available. How to navigate to well known sites. 14:07:14 jspellman has joined #apa 14:07:15 matatk: Several pages are well known in any given site, how do we expose them in a best practice way. 14:07:34 nigel has joined #apa 14:07:47 matatk: Will alert when recording is available. 14:08:13 q? 14:08:16 matatk has joined #apa 14:09:18 Janina: we think that this is on the right track to work with the COGA request; this may be a wide scale adaption if we can socialize it? (not just COGA) 14:09:53 matatk2 has joined #apa 14:10:31 Demelza has joined #apa 14:10:40 present+ 14:10:43 Janina: Can we publish this, socialize this, get it bubbled up to the collective consciousness? 14:11:06 q? 14:11:11 q? 14:11:19 zakim, next item 14:11:19 agendum 2 -- [New on TR](http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html) -- taken up [from janina] 14:11:51 subtopic: SHACL 1.2 Core 14:11:51 - tracker: https://github.com/w3c/apa-review/issues/15 14:11:51 - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl12-core/ 14:12:34 subtopic: SHACL 1.2 SPARQL Extensions 14:12:34 - tracker: https://github.com/w3c/apa-review/issues/16 14:12:34 - spec: https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl12-sparql/ 14:13:17 Roy_Ruoxi: New documents for review on RDF - they are low level. Lisa (COGA) has concern around complexity. 14:14:25 Janina: We should advise Lisa that this is here and could be reviewed 14:14:41 Eric_Hind: Eric will push this to COGA to review if anyone can/wil 14:15:24 zakim, next item 14:15:24 agendum 3 -- [Spec review requests](https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues) -- taken up [from janina] 14:15:36 subtopic: Web Neural Network API 14:15:36 - issue: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/105 14:15:36 - tracking: https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/155/views/1?filterQuery=label%3A%22s%3Awebnn%22 14:17:52 Roy_Ruoxi: Web Neural Network API is low level but open to concerns or review. 14:19:36 Matatk: Good quality recommendations related to A11y on these documents would be welcome. Introducing high level ideas/concepts into these documents could be a good approach. 14:20:57 Matatk: The beginning approach in the doc, overview of use Cases ,ethical considerations, etc (section 2,4,5,6) would be good to review. Explainer is available 14:21:46 s/section 2/section 2 (in part) / 14:21:54 gh, status 14:21:59 gb, status 14:21:59 matatk, the delay is 15, issues are off, names are off, full issues are printed 10 at a time; and the repository is https://github.com/w3c/apa 14:22:03 s/gh, status// 14:22:16 action janina: to review WebNN 14:24:13 cleyra: Emailed some thoughts, matatk Will forward to the right place and people 14:26:33 Janina: We always want comments, an email to APA list is welcome. 14:26:44 zakim, next item 14:26:44 agendum 4 -- [Comment review requests](https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review) -- taken up [from janina] 14:27:54 subtopic: Alternative text for short-form video 14:27:54 source: whatwg/html#11080 14:27:54 tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/225 14:31:19 q? 14:31:30 q+ to ask does it need alt=""? 14:32:01 matatk: APA sourced comments should be by consensus - tracked issues in APA repository looks for APA perspective. Would be great if anyone would volunteer to read. 14:32:51 Matatk: Demelza and Janina will volunteer to review. 14:33:28 How to link your GitHub and W3C accounts: https://www.w3.org/users/myprofile/connectedaccounts 14:35:14 matatk: If you haven't done this linking process, please do. If there's an issue, connect with Matthew and Janina 14:36:22 matatk: Best test to see if things are in order, add a comment 14:36:52 Neha has joined #apa 14:37:23 q? 14:37:23 Janina: Always welcome to make a comment again, a discussed, broader comment often carries more value. 14:37:28 ack ja 14:37:28 janina, you wanted to ask does it need alt=""? 14:38:46 zakim, next item 14:38:46 agendum 5 -- [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues) -- taken up [from janina] 14:39:06 PaulG: No new updates to share 14:39:21 zakim, next item 14:39:21 agendum 5 was just opened, Eric_hind 14:39:24 zakim, close item 14:39:24 I don't understand 'close item', Eric_hind 14:39:28 zakim, close this item 14:39:28 agendum 5 closed 14:39:29 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:39:29 6. Actions check-in [from janina] 14:39:54 zakim, next item 14:39:54 agendum 6 -- Actions check-in -- taken up [from janina] 14:40:21 zakim, take up item 5 14:40:21 agendum 5 -- [CSS Update (Paul)](https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues) -- taken up [from janina] 14:40:39 https://drafts.csswg.org/css-forms-1/ 14:42:37 Cley has joined #apa 14:42:52 PaulG: Forms styling, how to make forms easier to pattern. Looks to reduce customization against browsers. 14:43:50 Can someone share again Paul’s link? 14:44:43 PaulG: Note that for users with personal style sheets, this may allow more contiguous styling. But it is geared towards authors. 14:44:55 q? 14:44:57 https://drafts.csswg.org/css-forms-1/ 14:45:01 Cheers 14:45:03 zakim, next item 14:45:03 agendum 6 -- Actions check-in -- taken up [from janina] 14:45:42 zakim, close this item 14:45:42 agendum 6 closed 14:45:43 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 14:45:43 7. Other business [from janina] 14:45:50 zakim, next item 14:45:50 agendum 7 -- Other business -- taken up [from janina] 14:47:10 kirkwood has joined #APA 14:47:41 TAG Design Review of ACT Rules Format 1.1: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/977 14:48:38 matatk: Review for accessibility test rules - accessibility related commentary. This is now in a state to have additional comments and review on this thread - if there's A11y contributions after review, we can follow up. 14:49:04 zakim, next item 14:49:04 agendum 8 -- Be done -- taken up [from janina] 14:50:13 rssagent, make minutes 14:50:39 zakim, end meeting 14:50:39 As of this point the attendees have been matatk, Eric_hind, PaulG, janina, JonCohn, Neha, Dr_Keith, Demelza 14:50:41 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:50:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-apa-minutes.html Zakim 14:50:49 I am happy to have been of service, Eric_hind; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 14:50:49 Zakim has left #apa 15:04:18 zakim, end meeting 15:04:24 rrsagent, bye 15:04:24 I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-apa-actions.rdf : 15:04:24 ACTION: janina to to review WebNN [1] 15:04:24 recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/03/26-apa-irc#T14-22-16 15:04:27 janina has left #apa