12:57:11 RRSAgent has joined #smart-cities 12:57:16 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-irc 12:57:16 agenda: https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/README.md#24-march-2025 12:57:38 meting: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 12:57:43 present+ Kaz_Ashimura 12:59:45 rrsagent, make log public 12:59:49 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:59:51 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:00:27 McCool has joined #smart-cities 13:00:50 present+ Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool 13:00:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:01:00 mjk5 has joined #smart-cities 13:01:11 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 13:01:56 s/meting/meeting/ 13:01:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:01:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:02:24 present+ Linda_van_den_Brink, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:02:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:02:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:02:58 brinkwoman has joined #smart-cities 13:04:32 mjk6 has joined #smart-cities 13:07:28 chair: Koster 13:09:26 scribenick: McCool 13:11:04 q+ 13:11:25 agenda: https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities?tab=readme-ov-file#agenda 13:11:37 topic: Logistics 13:11:41 mk: any cancellations we know of coming up? 13:12:17 kaz: was conflict with Nordic CG on third monday of the month, so propose shifting this meeting to fourth month 13:12:22 ... would like to confirm 13:12:51 mm: I think you need to send an email for that, too 13:12:59 kaz: did, so should do it again 13:13:31 mm: next week DST will be done, finally 13:14:08 q? 13:14:11 q- 13:14:17 mk: note April will have five Mondays, also 13:14:25 topic: Minutes 13:14:40 i/Minutes/kaz: should be April 21 :)/ 13:14:49 https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html 13:15:11 i|html|subtopic: Feb-17| 13:15:58 mk: (scans minutes, summarizes main points) 13:16:05 Mizushima has joined #smart-cities 13:18:01 mk: discussed logistics, including repo, deliverables 13:18:11 ... reviewed charter 13:18:41 ... resolution to create a repo, that has now been done 13:19:00 ... for requirements, user story format suggested 13:19:21 subtopic: Feb-18 13:19:42 https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html 13:19:44 mk: this was more Asia-friendly timeslot 13:20:01 ... however, we agreed going forward to combine meetings 13:21:14 ... we have to generate a Team Report 13:21:27 q+ 13:21:30 mm: is there a deadline for the Team Report/ 13:22:11 kaz: end of charter, July 2026, but good question; not tight, but we could define some milestones 13:22:58 q- 13:23:02 mk: can put it in the agenda for now; may also want to consider a White Paper 13:23:03 q+ 13:23:16 q- 13:23:21 kaz: I can create an initial schedule.md in the repo 13:23:27 mk: ok, sure 13:23:39 action: Kaz to create a schedule pge on GitHub 13:23:47 s/pge/page/ 13:24:22 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:24:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:24:51 mk: convergence of grid; also saw this topic show up in meeting with Nordic CG 13:25:11 ... converges with smart building topic, energy use, etc. 13:25:28 mk: gap analysis would be useful 13:25:32 q+ 13:26:05 ack m 13:26:31 mk: one pager 13:26:51 mk: any update to the minutes? If not, I would like to propose we adopt and publish them. 13:27:01 mk: ... no objections heard. 13:27:27 q+ 13:27:44 topic: Github updates and resources 13:27:55 mk: not sure where we put things like the gap document 13:28:00 i|not|-> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md resources.md| 13:28:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:28:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:28:25 mm: suggest chairs should review the minutes before the meeting and add such things to the agenda 13:28:45 mm: resources page: 13:28:58 s|topic: Github updates and resources|| 13:28:58 ... https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md 13:29:11 s|-> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md resources.md|| 13:29:30 mk: list of relevant W3C and other groups 13:29:34 i|resources page:|topic: Github updates and resources| 13:29:37 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:29:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:31:30 mk: need to consider interoperability, e.g. for geolocation, datasets, etc; also privacy principles 13:31:32 q+ 13:32:14 ack k 13:33:09 mm: need to better organize this; very long. Prioritize, group by categories? 13:33:33 q+ 13:33:42 scribenick: kaz 13:34:18 kaz: right. this big list was copied from the IG Charter, and we should think about priority categories first, then which group to be included in which category next 13:34:30 mm: digital twin would be another category 13:34:38 ... would require sensor data, etc. 13:35:07 ... probably we need to clarify use cases as well 13:35:10 q+ 13:35:51 ack m 13:36:16 mm: suggest we focus on digital twins, generate use cases, use that to prioritize 13:36:30 kaz: may also be useful to look at external organizations first 13:36:52 ack k 13:39:41 q+ 13:41:09 mm: starting with digital twin concept, we need to thing about what kind of "modelling" we need 13:41:40 ... e.g. geospatial data, relationships and entities (aka LD), time series and numerical data (e.g. IoT sensor data) 13:41:43 ack k 13:42:01 ... and what "web" is used for e.g. visualization (webGPU, vector graphics, etc) 13:42:35 mk: issues like IoT interfaces, ontologies, etc. 13:42:43 q+ 13:42:46 q+ 13:43:31 i|issues|kaz: right. reminded me of the great session about SVG Map for evacuation purposes during the AC2024 in Hiroshima.| 13:44:42 mm: I think we need a short list of high-level categories, maybe 5 or so, and organize things under that 13:46:27 mk: what about standards? 13:46:35 q? 13:46:38 ack mc 13:46:48 mm: SDOs work on lots of things, we should cite specific standards, not orgs... 13:47:05 kaz: could create another md file for technology categories 13:47:18 ... could think about which SDO is working on which categories 13:47:57 mm: makes sense 13:48:02 mk: good place to start 13:48:36 q+ 13:49:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/technology-categories.md 13:49:41 mk: as mm said, we need to pick a small number of "focus areas" 13:50:32 s/md/md technology-categories.md/ 13:50:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:50:46 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:52:40 mm: suggest we brainstorm right now in the PR, then people can comment offline 13:59:39 mm: suggest create a PR so we can comment and propose updates 14:00:18 https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/1 14:00:46 s/https/-> https/ 14:01:01 s|/1|/1 PR 1 - Update technology-categories.md| 14:01:06 [adjourned] 14:01:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:02:07 i|suggest we focus on digital|scribenick: McCool| 14:02:09 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:10 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:02:20 i|reminded|scribenick: kaz| 14:02:29 i|issues like IoT|scribenick: McCool| 14:02:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:03:05 i|should be April 21|scribenick: kaz| 14:03:17 i|scans minutes|scribenick: McCool| 14:03:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:03:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:03:47 i|adjourned|scribenick: kaz| 14:04:09 i|adjourned|kaz: let's continue the discussion on GitHub using the PR 1 above| 14:04:35 i|adjourned|... then we can talk about that during the next call on April 21| 14:04:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:04:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 16:01:43 Zakim has left #smart-cities