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12:47:02 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:47:18 <jasonjgw> present+
12:47:22 <jasonjgw> scribe+
12:47:29 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
12:47:40 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:48:07 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI.
12:48:27 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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12:53:35 <janina> agenda?
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13:01:44 <scott_h> present+
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13:02:20 <Joshue108> scribenick: Josh
13:02:24 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:02:24 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:02:24 <janina> present+
13:02:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> present+
13:02:45 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:02:45 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, scott_h, Joshue, janina, Roy_Ruoxi
13:02:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see Joshue108, scott_h, janina1, RRSAgent, Zakim, jasonjgw, janina, kirkwood, gb, Roy_Ruoxi, Rachael, alastairc
13:03:00 <Joshue108> JW: There is a CFC still open till tomorrow
13:03:16 <Joshue108> JS: I'm expecting we will publish
13:03:29 <Joshue108> JS: We welcome comments
13:03:48 <Joshue108> JW: There have been editorial comments - expecting a Pull request
13:03:56 <Joshue108> JW: Any updates?
13:04:05 <Joshue108> JS: From whom?
13:04:16 <Joshue108> JW: W3C staff
13:04:31 <Joshue108> JS: Roy will be using the editors draft
13:04:56 <Joshue108> JS: I want to make sure we don't have typos etc
13:05:34 <Joshue108> RR:  There have been suggestions around ethical principles and harms.
13:06:04 <Joshue108> RR:  In the GH repository.
13:06:34 <Joshue108> JOC: We should talk about the comments from Patrick and Hidde etc
13:06:50 <Joshue108> JS: A spell check needs to be run
13:07:21 <Joshue108> JW: Not sure about the source of the PR
13:07:34 <Joshue108> JS: Not worried about that
13:07:55 <Joshue108> JW: Not aware of the comments what are they?
13:08:43 <Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/issues/13
13:08:44 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/issues/13 -> Issue 13 AI and Machine Learning - note fails to discuss ethical aspects of using AI (by hidde)
13:08:56 <Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/issues/12
13:08:57 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/issues/12 -> Issue 12 AI and Machine Learning - Note title is slightly misleading/incorrect (by patrickhlauke)
13:09:00 <scott_h> scribe+
13:09:40 <scott_h> issues: need to check for typos
13:10:00 <scott_h> issues: first issue is that title is misleading/incorrect
13:10:26 <scott_h> issues argues that ML and generative AI is high level and no specific accessibiity
13:10:59 <scott_h> janina: editorial suggesiton, change from 'of' to 'in'
13:11:24 <scott_h> josh: do think we have more and will change
13:12:17 <scott_h> josh: happy to comment
13:15:23 <scott_h> josh responded to issue
13:18:58 <scott_h> Github issue 2:
13:19:21 <scott_h> concern over note not discussing ethical aspects of using AI
13:19:37 <scott_h> including sustanability regarding envrionmental concerns,
13:19:46 <scott_h> copyright violations
13:20:05 <scott_h> and liklihood of bias
13:20:22 <scott_h> suggeiston to add an ethical considerations information
13:21:02 <scott_h> janina: some out of scope but ae focusing on people with disaibities
13:22:41 <scott_h> janian and scott suggest similar response to previous issue regarding liklihood of increasing scope
13:23:49 <scott_h> josh: W3C has a report regaidng AI and ethics, can be referenced
13:26:41 <Roy_Ruoxi> q+
13:27:26 <scott_h> josh posted response
13:28:43 <Joshue108> ack roy
13:29:22 <scott_h> roy: also some discussion on overlays
13:30:35 <janina> https://A11yEdge.github.io/capabilities/
13:31:29 <Roy_Ruoxi> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/ai-accessibility/FPWD-ai-accessbility/index.html#accessibility-overlays
13:34:42 <Joshue108> scribe+ JW: I dont see an issue at this point
13:35:02 <Joshue108> RR: No issue but giving you a heads up - if they do arise we should prepare
13:35:11 <Joshue108> JW: Announcement text?
13:35:24 <scott_h> jason: announcement text, W3C will be writing it need to be aware of specifc questions for reviewers
13:36:03 <scott_h> editors note and scope section woudl be one
13:36:11 <scott_h> introduciton section and explanations of background woudl be another,
13:36:17 <scott_h> third is accessibility considraitons
13:37:35 <scott_h> janina: ask specifically what shoudl this document cover / expand our scope?
13:38:48 <scott_h> plan to workthorugh focus reas next week
13:39:16 <scott_h> jason: mailing list good as wel
13:40:02 <scott_h> jason: so let's look at the three areas and focus on questions within them
13:40:49 <Joshue108> s/shoudl/should
13:41:40 <Joshue108> s/accessibility considraitons/accessibility considerations
13:41:54 <scott_h> 1. scope to the scope identified. what else woudl you like to add for us
13:42:08 <scott_h> in intro seciton, ask about definitions
13:43:32 <scott_h> 2. introducion specific secton
13:43:54 <scott_h> 3. from seciotn 3 use cases: provide us use cases, provide yoru concerns
13:44:32 <Joshue108> JOC: Lets do this on list!
13:46:36 <Roy_Ruoxi> RRSAgent, make minutes
13:46:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/19-rqtf-minutes.html Roy_Ruoxi
13:47:30 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:47:30 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:49:25 <janina> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/a6b80080-4af5-43f4-bc55-823cc6fdf8b7/
13:54:02 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:54:02 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, scott_h, Joshue, janina, Roy_Ruoxi
13:54:04 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:54:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/19-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:54:11 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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