IRC log of ixml on 2025-03-18

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OK

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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Mar/0019

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Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group

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Chair: Steven

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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/03/04-ixml-minutes.html

14:46:33 [Steven]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html Steven

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15:00:50 [john]

rrsagent make minutes

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john

15:01:27 [john]

present+:bethan

15:01:32 [Steven]

rrsagent, here

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See https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-irc#T15-01-32

15:02:14 [john]

present: +bethan

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present: steven, nico, john, bethan

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present: +david

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Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting

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Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/03/04-ixml-minutes.html

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Accepted

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Topic: Review of open actions

15:04:36 [john]

Nothing to report

15:04:51 [john]

2023-01-10-f: NTW to produce draft documentation of the XML vocabulary, issue #137

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https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/137

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2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README)

15:04:51 [john]

2024-10-01-f: SP to make a PR for both versions of the RFC grammar

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https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/139

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2024-10-01-e: SP to review ixml tests and correct the grammar

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Topic: Status reports

15:05:14 [john]

Nothing on implementations

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present: + fredrik

15:05:47 [john]

Steven is writing a paper for Markup UK on modularisation

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Topic: New open issues

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Issue #294, “parse tree” is not defined in the specification

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See https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/294

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Steven - a certain level of understanding in the reader - parse tree sufficiently well understood

15:07:06 [john]

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15:07:33 [john]

Bethan: not necessarily

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Steven: no complaints from implementors

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Bethan: depe3nds on who we think the audience for the spec is. - All users?

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s/depe3nds/depends/

15:13:31 [norm]

This implementor found parse tree confusing, that's why he opened the issue.

15:15:56 [john]

Quite some discussion on the notion of a parse tree/ forest and the presence of several trees.

15:17:35 [john]

Very unclear about the presence of ambiguity with implementations and the spec.

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Steven: I'll delete the word tree....

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John: suggest delay until Perspectives on serialization

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See https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/296

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is discussed at the next meeting

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Agreed pragmas

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Next meeting April 1 - normal daylight time

15:22:23 [john]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:22:24 [RRSAgent]

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15:23:13 [john]

s/pragmas/pragmas delated to next meeting/

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15:23:55 [john]

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john