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14:42:28 <Steven> rrsagent, make logs public
14:44:54 <Steven> OK
14:45:51 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2025Mar/0019
14:46:04 <Steven> Meeting: Invisible XML Community Group
14:46:04 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:46:22 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/03/04-ixml-minutes.html
14:46:33 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:46:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html Steven
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15:00:50 <john> rrsagent make minutes
15:01:06 <john> rrsagent, make minutes
15:01:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john
15:01:27 <john> present+:bethan
15:01:32 <Steven> rrsagent, here
15:01:32 <RRSAgent> See https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-irc#T15-01-32
15:02:14 <john> present: +bethan
15:02:56 <john> present: steven, nico, john, bethan
15:03:20 <john> present: +david
15:03:48 <john> Topic: Accept the minutes of the previous meeting
15:03:48 <john> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2025/03/04-ixml-minutes.html
15:04:04 <john> Accepted
15:04:28 <john> Topic: Review of open actions
15:04:36 <john> Nothing to report
15:04:51 <john> 2023-01-10-f: NTW to produce draft documentation of the XML vocabulary, issue #137
15:04:51 <john> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/137
15:04:51 <john> 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue #139 (new grammars, new README)
15:04:51 <john> 2024-10-01-f: SP to make a PR for both versions of the RFC grammar
15:04:52 <john> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/139
15:04:52 <john> 2024-10-01-e: SP to review ixml tests and correct the grammar
15:05:00 <john> Topic: Status reports
15:05:14 <john> Nothing on implementations
15:05:24 <john> present: + fredrik
15:05:47 <john> Steven is writing a paper for Markup UK on modularisation
15:06:06 <john> Topic: New open issues
15:06:31 <john> Issue #294, “parse tree” is not defined in the specification
15:06:31 <john>   See https://github.com/invisiblexml/ixml/issues/294
15:06:57 <john> Steven - a certain level of understanding in the reader - parse tree sufficiently well understood
15:07:06 <john> rrsagent, make minutes
15:07:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john
15:07:33 <john> Bethan: not necessarily
15:08:04 <john> Steven: no complaints from implementors
15:09:08 <john> Bethan: depe3nds on who we think the audience for the spec is. - All users?
15:11:14 <john> s/depe3nds/depends/
15:13:31 <norm> This implementor found parse tree confusing, that's why he opened the issue.
15:15:56 <john> Quite some discussion on the notion of a parse tree/ forest and the presence of several trees.
15:17:35 <john> Very unclear about the presence of ambiguity with implementations and the spec.
15:18:39 <john> Steven: I'll delete the word tree....
15:21:07 <john> John: suggest delay until Perspectives on serialization
15:21:07 <john>   See https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/pull/296
15:21:07 <john>  is discussed at the next meeting
15:21:51 <john> Agreed pragmas
15:22:11 <john> Next meeting April 1 - normal daylight time
15:22:23 <john> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john
15:23:13 <john> s/pragmas/pragmas delated to next meeting/
15:23:19 <john> rrsagent, make minutes
15:23:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john
15:23:55 <john> rrsagent, publish minutes
15:23:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/18-ixml-minutes.html john