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15:10:40 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), PaulG
15:10:43 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements
15:10:43 <PaulG> Agenda+ Action Items
15:10:43 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues and examples
15:10:43 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
15:11:01 <PaulG> present+
15:11:15 <matatk> agenda?
15:11:23 <matatk> present+
15:11:28 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:11:28 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:11:32 <matatk> chair: Paul
15:11:37 <matatk> meeting: Pronunciation TF
15:11:41 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:11:41 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:11:42 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:11:42 <Zakim> 2. Action Items [from PaulG]
15:11:47 <PaulG> zakim, take up item 2
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15:11:59 <matatk> Here is what we decided earlier: https://www.w3.org/2024/12/09-pronunciation-minutes.html
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15:12:56 <PaulG> matak: pull request coming soon
15:13:55 <PaulG> I think we wanted the TAG template for the explainer, no?
15:15:07 <PaulG> should we keep explainers discrete or have an overall one?
15:15:42 <PaulG> matatk: I've seen markdown files containing this sorts of information at various levels work well
15:16:38 <PaulG> matatk: I'll clean these up mechanically then I'll try with Roy to deprecate the documents we don't want to track any longer
15:17:14 <PaulG> ... we'
15:17:23 <PaulG> ... we'll deprecate #1
15:17:24 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/1 -> CLOSED Issue 1 Broken link (by tripu) [bug]
15:17:34 <PaulG> ... we'll deprecate #4
15:17:34 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/pronunciation/issues/4 -> CLOSED Issue 4 Use Case: HTML + Microdata (by AutoSponge)
15:17:44 <PaulG> ... we'll deprecate 5
15:18:21 <PaulG> ... explainers need to stay in lockstep with the spec
15:19:17 <PaulG> ... there will be a PR for moving the gap analysis and scenarios into use cases which will leave a bit of a mess in doc 3 that we can tidy up
15:21:26 <matatk> subtopic: APA re-charter, and TF description
15:21:27 <matatk> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pronunciation/2025Mar/0002.html
15:27:17 <matatk> Current draft text: use author-controlled markup to define precise pronunciation across environments when content authors need certainty as opposed to cross-platform heuristic variability
15:27:22 <PaulG> let's leave specific technologies out of the description (sans SSML and PLS) because people seem to get the wrong idea about our aims
15:31:09 <matatk> scribe+ PaulG
15:31:12 <matatk> scribe+ matatk
15:31:16 <matatk> PaulG: Think of someone that faces barriers such as print and learning disabilitiles - they have to deal with the scenario that what's being announced isn't what's being communicated, and they have to work around those barriers before starting to engage with the content (or having their engagement with the content interrupted).
15:31:48 <matatk> Also, in a learning environment, this just serves to increase the burden on the person.
15:40:52 <PaulG> matak: I will reply to janina's email with this
15:42:20 <PaulG> zakim, end meeting
15:42:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, matatk, Alan
15:42:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:42:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/17-pronunciation-minutes.html Zakim
15:42:30 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, PaulG; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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