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12:34:46 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:35:07 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
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12:35:19 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:35:41 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI.
12:35:53 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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13:01:07 <janina> present+ scott
13:01:10 <janina> present+ josh
13:01:15 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:01:15 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Accessibility of Machine Learning and Generative AI. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:01:55 <janina> jasonjgw: Summarizes status noting finalizations preparatory to fPWD
13:01:59 <JPaton> present+ John_Paton
13:02:07 <janina> jasonjgw: We've added a Note for future plans for the doc
13:02:18 <janina> jasonjgw: The Note explains the document may be restructured
13:02:51 <janina> jasonjgw: Abstract was created and amended on list
13:03:11 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:03:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/12-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:03:34 <janina> jasonjgw: We do have a branch prep to restructuring after FPwD
13:03:58 <janina> jasonjgw: Asking whether any objection to APA CfC for FPWD?
13:04:36 <janina> josh: Asks whether we shouldn't wait to FPWD until restrued?
13:04:48 <janina> josh: Would we miss something? Publishing too early?
13:05:11 <janina> jasonjgw: Don't expect a straight forward discussion
13:06:17 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that we think there's enough maturity to engage the wider community.
13:06:52 <jasonjgw> Janina also notes the planned presentation by Matthew at the upcoming April AC meeting.
13:08:48 <jasonjgw> Janina: the request appears to be for more specificity in the editor's note.
13:09:06 <jasonjgw> Janina: considers this editorial in nature.
13:09:58 <jasonjgw> Janina proposes that the CfC start today and run through 23:59 Boston time next Wednesday. This gives us time for editorial enhancements.
13:13:18 <janina> jasonjgw: Accuracy of AI systems raised by Matthew that would be an example of what we need to address
13:14:35 <jasonjgw> Janina notes that we need to address authoring tools' application of AI/ML, with examples.
13:15:11 <jasonjgw> Janina: AI can be helpful to the user who is being served; it can offer personalized support, including helping users in interacting with their systems.
13:15:56 <jasonjgw> Josh: notes quality issues and the difference between AI/ML systems as actually realized and their potential.
13:16:15 <jasonjgw> Janina: discussion of responsibility is missing.
13:16:21 <janina> need to see plausability and trustworthiness mentioned
13:16:37 <janina> janina: Can address ATAG issues more completely
13:17:07 <janina> jasonjgw: Modula known additions above, any objection to FPWD at this time?
13:17:10 <janina> [crickets]
13:18:27 <janina> RESOLUTION: RQTF requests APA conduct a Call for Consensus to publish a FPWD of the Accessibility of machine learning and generative AI Note track document based on its current Editor's Draft at https://w3c.github.io/ai-accessibility/
13:18:47 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:18:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/12-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:22:07 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:22:07 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, janina, scott, josh, John_Paton
13:22:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, JPaton, RRSAgent, Zakim, jasonjgw, kirkwood, janina1, Roy_Ruoxi, Rachael, gb, alastairc
13:23:21 <janina> RESOLUTION: RQTF requests APA conduct a Call for Consensus to publish a FPWD of the Accessibility of machine learning and generative AI Note track document based on its current Editor's Draft at https://w3c.github.io/ai-accessibility/
13:27:00 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:27:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/12-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:31:31 <jasonjgw> Jason: Suggests that Josh's proposed structure would require readers to read most of the document, including the examples, to gain an understanding of the central issues. He suggests an overview of the issues taht follows the introductory section, followed by the examples and discussion in the balance of the document.
13:32:05 <jasonjgw> Josh is open to having an overview section, appreciates the formulation of issues as developed in recent Task Force conversations, and has added further thoughts into the proposal for a revised document structure.
13:32:55 <janina> 8
13:33:03 <janina> 88
13:33:37 <janina> CfC is at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2025Mar/0000.html
13:34:31 <janina> Template for Messaging is at:
13:34:33 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/wai-reviews-and-announcements/issues/4
13:34:33 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/wai-reviews-and-announcements/issues/4 -> Issue 4 AI Note from RQTF (by shawna-slh) [review]
13:34:37 <jasonjgw> Janina notes a template for announcements/messaging.
13:35:00 <jasonjgw> Janina: any accessibiity issues with it should be reported immediately.
13:35:34 <janina> jasonjgw: We're all on board for working on messaging
13:35:41 <janina> scott: I'll take the first stab
13:37:06 <janina> jasonjgw: Believe this is all we can do on this document as of now ...
13:37:17 <janina> jasonjgw: We'll come back to it next week
13:37:42 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:37:42 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:38:51 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes the latest proposal for the official description of the Task Force (charter-related).
13:40:26 <janina> Link to proposed description:
13:40:27 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rqtf/2025Mar/0005.html
13:41:20 <janina> the Research Questions (RQ) Task Force identifies accessibility barriers and knowledge gaps in emerging and future web technologies, publishes research findings to assist in ameliorating those gaps and barriers, and supports
13:41:24 <janina> APA horizontal review activities
13:43:22 <janina> [discussion on proposed text]
13:43:29 <janina> jasonjgw: Seems we're all in agreement on it
13:45:10 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes there are upcoming AC-related meetings on clarifying the W3C's mission.
13:46:10 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the meeting in April is the context of Matthew's proposed presentation.
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13:51:20 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:51:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, scott, josh, John_Paton
13:51:22 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:51:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/12-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:51:30 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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