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09:58:28 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
09:58:33 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
09:58:41 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
09:58:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
09:58:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:03:33 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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10:04:57 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#March_05%2C_2025
10:05:16 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
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10:05:59 <kaz> q+
10:06:56 <kaz> q-
10:07:25 <kaz> chair: Cristiano
10:07:59 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
10:08:22 <kaz> topic: Minutes
10:08:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/02/19-wot-script-minutes.html Feb-19
10:08:45 <kaz> ca: (goes through the minutes)
10:09:12 <kaz> approved
10:09:33 <kaz> topic: Calendar
10:09:42 <kaz> kaz: (mentions DST changes)
10:09:47 <kaz> topic: PRs
10:10:12 <kaz> subtopic: PR 561
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10:10:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/561 PR 561 - Extended return type of invokeAction()
10:10:39 <kaz> dp: (gives summary)
10:11:43 <kaz> ... addition around ActionInteractionOutput
10:12:07 <kaz> ... InteractionOptions for query is optional
10:12:15 <kaz> ... also for cancel
10:13:05 <kaz> ... (shows inex.d.ts)
10:13:47 <kaz> ... the change here is minimum
10:14:29 <kaz> ... (also revisit his comments last week)
10:14:30 <cris> q?
10:14:39 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/561#issuecomment-2681596255 Daniel's comments last week
10:14:51 <kaz> ... inline with the comments above
10:14:58 <kaz> ca: mixed feeling here...
10:15:05 <kaz> ... what is the use case?
10:15:23 <kaz> ... wondering why we get errors
10:15:31 <kaz> dp: good point
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10:15:42 <kaz> ... if I query something, that can fail
10:15:55 <kaz> ca: we can remove it then?
10:16:06 <kaz> dp: ok
10:16:19 <kaz> ca: let's see others' comments too
10:16:22 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
10:16:27 <kaz> rrsagent, daft minutes
10:16:27 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'daft minutes', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
10:16:44 <kaz> s/rrsagent, daft minutes/
10:16:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:16:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:17:47 <kaz> ... having InteractionOptions optional itself is fine, but what about input?
10:17:59 <kaz> dp: there is InteractionInput as well
10:18:13 <kaz> ... originally started with InteractionInput
10:18:23 <kaz> ... and was wondering if we need both
10:18:40 <kaz> ca: that surprises me too...
10:18:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:18:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:19:01 <kaz> ... we should be consistent
10:19:26 <kaz> ... why do we want to have query, etc.?
10:19:36 <kaz> ... (goes through the Editor's Draft)
10:20:12 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-scripting-api/#the-interactionoptions-dictionary WoT Scripting API Editor's Draft - 8.12 The InteractionOptions dictionary
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10:20:28 <kaz> dp: not sure if we really need both
10:21:09 <kaz> ... two possibilities here...
10:21:37 <kaz> ... was not really sure which way would be better
10:22:20 <kaz> ca: anyway, the API should be consistent with the other APIs
10:22:23 <JKRhb> q+
10:22:31 <kaz> ack jk
10:22:40 <kaz> jr: also wondering about that
10:23:08 <kaz> ... this InteractionOptions for query()
10:23:22 <kaz> ... we can indicate which form to be used
10:23:26 <kaz> ca: you're right
10:23:34 <kaz> ... but something is missing by the TD spec
10:24:06 <kaz> dp: on one hand, we have formIndex
10:24:26 <kaz> ... at the moment, we don't need the status
10:24:51 <kaz> ... both query() and cancel() are optional
10:25:00 <kaz> jr: ok
10:25:42 <kaz> ca: can afford with the same algorithm
10:26:14 <kaz> ... we don't know about the actual protocol, so wondering about the cancel()
10:26:25 <kaz> s/the ca/ca/
10:26:31 <kaz> dp: maybe to be aligned
10:26:55 <kaz> s/aligned/aligned with stop() from Subscription/
10:27:20 <kaz> ... here, InteractionOptions for stop() is also optional
10:27:41 <kaz> ca: we have to review the method carefully
10:27:53 <kaz> ... can you check it for the TD spec as well?
10:28:01 <kaz> dp: let me see...
10:28:54 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/ Web of Things (WoT) Thing Description - Next (Editor's Draft)
10:29:10 <kaz> ca: open issue there
10:29:23 <kaz> dp: issue with the data model to me
10:29:34 <kaz> ca: let's double check the issue with the TD TF
10:30:15 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-thing-description/#table-vocabulary-terms-in-eventaffordance-level TD spec (Editor's Draft) - Table 7: Vocabulary Terms in EventAffordance Level
10:31:02 <kaz> ca: this could be an issue for TD as well
10:31:33 <kaz> dp: the name is also being reused, e.g., for stop()
10:31:45 <kaz> ca: right
10:31:52 <JKRhb> q+
10:31:53 <kaz> q?
10:31:56 <kaz> q+
10:32:20 <kaz> ... this is a bug or missing feature of the Scripting API spec
10:32:41 <kaz> jr: wondering about the interface
10:33:01 <kaz> ... data can't be defined for the properties
10:33:10 <kaz> ca: right
10:33:22 <kaz> dp: maybe we could split it
10:33:34 <kaz> ca: possibly could use sub interface?
10:33:56 <kaz> jr: wondering if we should use the same mechanism for both
10:34:15 <kaz> ca: it's rather an issue of the TD spec, I think
10:34:23 <kaz> ack j
10:34:44 <kaz> kaz: what should be the next step then?
10:34:51 <kaz> ... should we bring this to the TD TF?
10:35:05 <kaz> ca: yeah, would create an issue for TD
10:35:08 <kaz> ack k
10:35:21 <kaz> kaz: ok. tx!
10:35:44 <kaz> dp: will update the PR based on the feedback today
10:36:00 <kaz> ca: and then I'll create an issue for TD
10:36:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:36:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/05-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:36:49 <kaz> topic: Issues
10:37:08 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 566
10:37:10 <cris> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566
10:37:27 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566 Issue 566 - [Use-case] WoT in the Browser|
10:37:52 <dape> q?
10:38:01 <kaz> ca: we should support WoT in the browser in general
10:38:59 <dape> q+
10:39:05 <kaz> q+
10:39:40 <kaz> dape: we all agreed based served as an external library (at the beginning)
10:40:12 <kaz> ... if browser vendors are interested themselves in native implementation, that would be great, though
10:40:21 <kaz> ca: right
10:40:26 <dape> ack dape
10:40:43 <kaz> ... also would be nice for us to capture problems with the Scripting API beforehand
10:41:45 <kaz> kaz: agree
10:41:55 <kaz> ... we should clarify what to be done as the WoT WG as a whole
10:41:57 <kaz> q-
10:44:43 <kaz> ca: (adds some more comments to the issue)
10:45:30 <kaz> ... we're aligned with Ben's comments
10:46:05 <kaz> ... the question is not just about the WoT Scripting API but the whole WoT including TD and Discovery
10:46:38 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566#issuecomment-2700545661 Cristiano's comments
10:47:40 <kaz> subtopic: Issue 567
10:48:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/567 Issue 567 - [TD] Consequence of contentType being optional
10:48:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:48:45 <kaz> ca: we need to handle this for TD 2.0. right?
10:49:23 <kaz> ... after clarifying what to be done for TD 1.1
10:49:54 <kaz> ... let's wait for TD updates
10:50:36 <kaz> dp: maybe we need to add some statement about our stance
10:50:56 <kaz> ca: (adds some comments about that to issue 567)
10:51:24 <kaz> dp: the PR Jan created is only about response at the moment
10:51:46 <JKRhb> q+
10:52:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2081 TD PR 2081 - Make contentType optional in ExpectedResponse and AdditionalExpectedResponse classes
10:52:40 <kaz> jr: there is no schema
10:53:22 <kaz> s/schema/schema for Discovery/
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10:53:50 <kaz> [adjourned]
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