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14:54:33 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD#March_3%2C_2025
14:54:46 <kaz> meeting: WoT and NGSI-LD
14:54:55 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
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15:04:45 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Frederic_LE, Josh_Thomas, Martin_Bauer, Michael_Koster
15:05:07 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:05:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:05:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:05:46 <kaz> present+ Juanjo_Hierro
15:05:56 <kaz> chair: McCool
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15:07:09 <kaz> present+ Franck_LE_GALL
15:07:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:07:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
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15:08:13 <kaz> topic: Minutes
15:08:21 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html Feb-17
15:08:31 <kaz> mm: (goes through the minutes)
15:09:03 <kaz> q+
15:09:31 <kaz> q-
15:10:02 <thelounge> Test
15:11:47 <thelounge> topic previous minutes review.
15:11:53 <kaz> s/Test//
15:11:57 <thelounge> Minutes approved.
15:12:15 <Franck> topic: Logistics
15:12:15 <kaz> i|topic previous|scribenick: thelounge|
15:12:20 <kaz> topic: Minutes
15:12:33 <kaz> s/topic: Minutes//
15:12:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:12:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:13:09 <kaz> subtopic: Summer time
15:13:35 <thelounge> Topic summer time
15:13:47 <kaz> s/subtopic: Summer time//
15:14:01 <kaz> This meeting is scheduled in US Eastern time
15:14:03 <kaz> On March 30, European Summer Time starts
15:14:05 <kaz> In Europe, meeting will seem to start one hour earlier for three weeks, then go back.
15:14:08 <kaz> Cancellation on April 7 - McCool unavailable
15:14:48 <kaz> present+ Rigo_Wenning
15:15:07 <kaz> i|This meeting|scribenick: kaz|
15:15:14 <kaz> s/This meeting/mm: This meeting/
15:15:19 <kaz> s/On M/... On M/
15:15:26 <kaz> s/In Eu/... In Eu/
15:15:34 <kaz> s/Cance/... Cance/
15:15:43 <jhierro> April 21st isn't holidays in several parts of Europe?
15:15:49 <thelounge> Topic cancelled meetings: March 31, April 7
15:15:58 <kaz> i|April|... any other cancellations?|
15:16:21 <kaz> i|April|(discussion about possible cancellations)|
15:16:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:16:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:17:01 <kaz> i|Feb-17|scribenick: kaz|
15:17:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:17:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:17:50 <kaz> s/Topic summer time/subtopic: Summer time/
15:17:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:17:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:18:54 <thelounge> @fle Subtopic canceled meetings: April 21st (easter monday) and month of may
15:22:27 <kaz> q+
15:22:37 <kaz> q-
15:23:24 <kaz> cancelled meetings: March 24, 31; April 7 21; May 5-26
15:23:40 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD/edit?section=3 See also the Agenda section on the wiki
15:24:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:24:53 <kaz> topic: Resources
15:25:08 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/blob/main/resources.md resources.md on GitHub
15:26:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/PRESENTATIONS WoT presentations
15:27:14 <kaz> mm: (goes through the WoT presentations area above)
15:27:16 <thelounge> @fle topic activities and resources. Michael has put in the repo links to several documents and presentations that are relevant to the WG
15:27:49 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/PRESENTATIONS/2023-10-WoT-Status-McCool.pdf McCool's slides on WoT Status and Spatial Discovery
15:28:01 <kaz> q+
15:28:41 <kaz> q-
15:29:33 <kaz> q?
15:29:33 <kaz> q+ rigo
15:29:39 <thelounge> Michael encourages us to browse those documents, presentations and videos
15:30:13 <kaz> q+
15:30:14 <EgeKorkan> q+
15:32:19 <McCool9> ack rigo
15:32:55 <McCool9> (rigo talking about Sofia workshop, AAS, Sofia workshop)
15:35:16 <thelounge> @Kaz start with potential use cases and pain points
15:35:33 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/tree/main/examples examples
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15:37:05 <thelounge> @Ege from Siemens' point of view the positioning of those standards is clear.
15:37:09 <kaz> s/@Kaz start with potential use cases and pain points/kaz: we already have another page to gather ideas on potential use cases and pain points (examples/README.md) but McCool was currently describing the basic resources around NGSI-LD and WoT to analyze the gaps between them/
15:37:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:37:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:38:02 <thelounge> @Michael have concrete exemples that explain/illustrate the relationship between these standards
15:38:11 <kaz> i|we already have|scribenick: kaz|
15:38:35 <kaz> i|we already have|scribenick: thelounge|
15:38:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:38:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:39:02 <kaz> i|topic activities|scribenick: thelounge|
15:39:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:39:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:39:54 <kaz> s/between them/between them. We can add information about the possible use cases and pain points to the example page a bit later./
15:39:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:39:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:40:03 <thelounge> @Michael use the next three weeks to generate real good examples. Each of us should document at least one example.
15:40:15 <kaz> q+
15:40:18 <kaz> ack k
15:40:19 <kaz> ack e
15:40:20 <EgeKorkan> ack
15:40:21 <kaz> q+
15:41:59 <kaz> ack k
15:42:28 <kaz> kaz: Just to make sure, does that mean, we once suspend gathering resources and start to discuss use cases and paint points instead?
15:42:46 <thelounge> Topic planning
15:43:26 <thelounge> Focus on use cases and pain points to help us clarify our thinking
15:44:18 <kaz> s/Topic planning//
15:44:26 <kaz> s/Focus/mm: Focus/
15:44:38 <kaz> i|Just|scribenick: kaz|
15:44:47 <kaz> i|Focus|scribenick: thelounge|
15:44:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:44:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:45:00 <kaz> q?
15:45:07 <thelounge> @Martin would do DT modeling
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15:46:04 <rigo> sorry, computer crashed
15:46:21 <kaz> s/sorry, computer crashed//
15:47:26 <thelounge> @Juanjo  Develops his point of view in paralell
15:47:55 <kaz> i|Focus on|topic: Next steps - use cases|
15:47:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:47:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:48:32 <kaz> s/Focus on use/For the upcoming three weeks, focus on use/
15:48:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:48:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:48:56 <kaz> q+
15:49:37 <thelounge> @Rigo Use case with on boarding of things from the perspective of the digital product passport
15:49:50 <kaz> s/on boarding/onboarding/
15:51:56 <thelounge> @Rigo It is important that the things we import in a data space are semantically well defined
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15:52:25 <mjk> q?
15:52:31 <kaz> q-
15:53:31 <thelounge> @Michael Is this (i.e. ontologis) in scope of the WG?
15:54:03 <kaz> kaz: sounds like that would be related to DID/VC as well and a good use case for the Smart Cities IG, but we still can do initial discussion about that possible use case here within the WoT WG/IG. If there is something above the WoT Charter, we can bring the idea to the Smart Cities IG, etc., later. So don't worry :)/
15:54:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:54:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:54:14 <thelounge> ontologies
15:54:22 <kaz> i|sounds like|scribenick: kaz|
15:54:37 <kaz> i|ontologies|scribenick: thelounge|
15:54:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:54:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:55:33 <McCool9> q?
15:55:52 <kaz> s/ontologies//
15:55:56 <kaz> s/ontologis/ontologies/
15:55:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:55:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:56:16 <kaz> s|:)/|:)|
15:56:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:56:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:57:55 <kaz> ek: would like to see concrete examples about how NGSI-LD would be able to get benefit by WoT
15:58:00 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:58:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:58:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:58:39 <kaz> s/@fle/fle:/
15:58:59 <kaz> s/@Ege/Ege:/
15:59:07 <kaz> s/@Michael/mm:/
15:59:10 <kaz> s/@Michael/mm:/
15:59:21 <kaz> s/@Martin/Martin:/
15:59:47 <kaz> s/@Juanjo/Juanjo:/
16:00:40 <kaz> s/his point of view/his point of view around using WoT Thing Models/
16:00:46 <kaz> s/@Rigo/Rigo:/g
16:00:57 <kaz> s/@Michael/mm:/g
16:01:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
16:01:24 <kaz> s/would like/scribenick: kaz/
16:01:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
16:01:53 <kaz> s/scribenick: kaz/would like/
16:02:00 <kaz> i|see concrete|scribenick: kaz|
16:02:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:02:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
16:02:45 <kaz> s/Topic: cancelled/cancelled/
16:02:59 <kaz> s/@fle Subtopic canceled/cancelled/
16:03:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:03:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/03/03-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
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