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10:03:37 <kaz> meeting: WoT Scripting API
10:03:56 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Zoltan_Kis
10:05:52 <dape> scribe: dape
10:06:04 <dape> TOPIC: Previous minutes
10:06:23 <dape> -> 05 Feb -> https://www.w3.org/2025/02/05-wot-script-minutes.html
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10:07:17 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
10:08:17 <dape> CA: Minutes look good -> approved
10:10:37 <dape> TOPIC: Calendar
10:10:49 <dape> DP: 2 points
10:11:37 <dape> ... it shows we didn't send update
10:11:58 <dape> ... wonder whether everyone has it in calendar?#
10:12:08 <dape> s/ calendar?#/ calendar?
10:12:22 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Scripting_API_WebConf#February_19%2C_2025
10:12:53 <kaz> q+
10:13:12 <dape> CA: I think we did a minor update and didn't want to bother everyone
10:13:25 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/d32e2081-22e7-4fb8-aa6c-308992284a0a/20250219T050000/ WoT Scripting API calendar
10:13:26 <dape> ZK: Had issues with W3C calendar entry
10:13:41 <dape> Kaz: Outlook has difficulties sometimes
10:14:34 <dape> ... ICS download is possible also
10:15:12 <dape> CA: used public link in Google Calendar and imported it in Outlook
10:15:31 <dape> ... shall we send notification to remove warning?
10:15:33 <dape> ZK: Yes
10:15:46 <dape> CA: Done!
10:16:07 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
10:16:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:16:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/19-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:16:33 <kaz> chair: Cristiano
10:16:43 <dape> DP: 2nd point: Used to say the current slot is intermediary ...
10:16:52 <dape> CA: Correct, problematic for US
10:16:52 <kaz> i/it shows/subtopic: Calendar invite/
10:17:04 <dape> ... would keep the slot as is
10:17:12 <kaz> i|2nd|subtopic: Marketing page|
10:17:56 <kaz> i|2nd point|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/activities/meetings/ WoT Marketing page - Web Conference Meetings
10:18:15 <dape> ZK: Slot is okay for me, but sometimes I might have issues
10:18:22 <dape> TOPIC: PRs
10:18:30 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Extend invokeAction
10:18:39 <dape> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/561
10:18:53 <dape> DP: No news from my side
10:20:26 <kaz> s|... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/561|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/pull/561 PR 561 - Extended return type of invokeAction()
10:20:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:20:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/19-wot-script-minutes.html kaz
10:20:38 <dape> ... once I have time to work I will summarize the decision
10:21:17 <dape> TOPIC: Issues
10:21:30 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Use-case WoT in the Browser
10:21:36 <dape> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566
10:21:47 <dape> CA: Issue coming from McCool
10:21:57 <dape> ... going over use-cases issues
10:22:06 <dape> ... we can validate use-case
10:22:20 <dape> ... report back with real feature request
10:22:32 <dape> ... it is about WoT in the browser
10:23:10 <dape> ZK: websocket is a possibility
10:23:35 <kaz> s|... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/566 Issue 566 - [Use-case] WoT in the Browser|
10:23:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:23:50 <dape> CA: Ben in web-thing-protocol is a relevant CG
10:24:00 <dape> ZK: feedback from browser people
10:24:20 <dape> ... native dependencies in the browser... will not happen
10:24:36 <kaz> q+
10:24:52 <dape> CA: MQTT, CoAP, WebSocket and HTTP can be supported
10:25:13 <dape> Kaz: We need to think about use-case
10:25:31 <dape> ... we need to clarify what "WoT in browser" means
10:25:44 <zkis> q+
10:25:44 <dape> ... browser vendors supporting WoT ?
10:26:03 <dape> CA: It would be nice
10:26:04 <dape> q+
10:26:16 <dape> ... I don't think it will happen
10:26:26 <dape> ... used as library is fine
10:26:50 <dape> ... requirements on browser ?
10:26:56 <kaz> q-
10:27:24 <dape> ZK: Interest w.r.t. dependency
10:27:39 <dape> ... problem with external dependencies
10:27:52 <dape> ... not acceptable for browser vendors
10:28:04 <dape> ... we have to go with existing APIs in browser
10:28:42 <dape> CA: limited to HTTP, CoAP, MQTT, WebWocket  ...
10:29:16 <dape> ZK: WoT is a web application
10:29:48 <dape> ... we cannot have Scripting API though
10:30:10 <dape> DP: We can
10:30:33 <dape> ZK: But just not as native.. just as JS library
10:31:15 <kaz> q+
10:31:21 <kaz> ack z
10:31:22 <kaz> ack d
10:31:44 <dape> DP: I think we can live with JS library
10:31:46 <dape> ack dape
10:32:08 <dape> CA: Correct, native support wasn't needed in the past
10:32:24 <dape> Kaz: Polyfill library
10:32:24 <kaz> q-
10:32:29 <dape> CA: Yes
10:33:03 <dape> <CA summarizing the discussion in the issue>
10:33:03 <kaz> s/Polyfill library/If we're OK with starting with a Polifill library for WoT. That would make sense./
10:33:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:33:35 <kaz> q?
10:35:42 <dape> DP: Need to report it back to Use-Case taskforce
10:36:25 <dape> CA: Okay, user story is valid but no need on browser side
10:38:19 <dape> q?
10:39:20 <dape> q+
10:39:20 <kaz> q+
10:39:58 <zkis> ack da
10:41:22 <dape> DP: New workflow in TD/Use-case requires use-case to foster new features
10:41:41 <dape> CA: Work already done ... but can be described
10:42:22 <dape> Kaz: working group is main stakeholder, but work can be delegated to task force
10:42:43 <dape> ... if Scripting TF is okay with polyfill we can propose that
10:43:02 <Mizushima> q+
10:43:07 <kaz> q-
10:43:08 <dape> ... can talk about it in main call
10:43:22 <kaz> s/with polyfill/with starting with polyfill/
10:43:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:43:35 <dape> MS: topic important
10:43:42 <dape> ... W3C is browser
10:44:12 <dape> ... we should submit this issue to use-case taskforce
10:44:28 <dape> ... need to clarify what is needed
10:44:40 <kaz> q+
10:44:52 <dape> ... not sure where the topic should be discussed
10:45:04 <dape> CA: Correct, touches many task forces
10:45:16 <Mizushima> q-
10:45:30 <dape> Kaz: I am suggesting to bring this proposal to main call
10:45:40 <dape> ... we can discuss how to deal with it
10:45:44 <zkis> q+
10:45:48 <kaz> q-
10:45:48 <zkis> ack kaz
10:45:51 <dape> ... procedure/process can be discussed
10:46:16 <dape> ZK: Technical input to main call today
10:46:22 <kaz> s/I am /That's why I'm/
10:46:31 <dape> CA: Yes, our feedback is important
10:46:32 <kaz> s/to bring/we bring/
10:46:45 <kaz> s/deal with it/deal with it as well/
10:46:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:47:12 <kaz> s/to main call/to the main call/
10:47:59 <dape> CA: Good that we have a direction now (issue is rather old)
10:48:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:48:54 <zkis> present- Zoltan_Kis
10:48:54 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Review Observe handler in the algorithms
10:48:59 <dape> ... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/455
10:49:12 <dape> CA: need to look into it again
10:49:29 <dape> [adjourned]
10:49:31 <kaz> s|... https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/455|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-scripting-api/issues/455 Issue 455 - Review Observe handler in the algorithms|
10:49:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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10:49:49 <kaz> present+ Zoltan_Kis
10:49:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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