00:10:10 ktoumura has joined #smart-cities 00:50:36 Daihei has joined #smart-cities 00:50:51 present+ 00:55:44 kaz has joined #smart-cities 00:59:18 rrsagent, bye 00:59:18 I see 1 open action item saved in https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-actions.rdf : 00:59:18 ACTION: kaz to create a GitHub repo for smart cities IG [1] 00:59:18 recorded in https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-irc#T13-29-36 00:59:29 RRSAgent has joined #smart-cities 00:59:29 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-irc 00:59:49 meeting: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG - Slot 2 01:00:51 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daihei_Shiohama, Hiroki_Endo 01:01:32 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 01:04:06 rrsagent, make log public 01:04:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:04:12 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 01:04:33 HirokiEndo has joined #smart-cities 01:05:12 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-smart-cities/2025Feb/0001.html 01:06:19 topic: Introductions 01:06:25 kaz: Team Contact 01:07:07 daihei: Shiohama from Media Do 01:07:18 ... living in San Diego 01:08:03 hiroki: Endo from NHK 01:09:01 ... Chair of the MCM-JP CG 01:09:33 ... participating in WoT and MEIG as well 01:10:50 kunihiko: from Hitachi 01:11:01 ... working for WoT around Discovery, etc. 01:11:48 ... regarding smart city topic, expecting this IG as a bridge for the existing SDOs and standards around smart cities 01:12:08 topic: Logistics 01:12:14 subtopic: Meeting schedule 01:15:12 present+ Michael_Koster 01:15:25 topic: Intro - revisited 01:15:43 koster: science and engineering background 01:15:52 ... IoT and smart building 01:16:17 ... created digital twin-based building automation systems 01:16:39 s/IoT and smart building/IoT and Digital Twins/ 01:16:58 kaz: Michael is the Chair of this IG 01:17:09 ... also co-Chair of the WoT-WG/IG 01:17:53 @@@ Kaz will move this part later 01:18:08 chair: Koster 01:18:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:18:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 01:18:48 daihei: would like to work on new areas for publishing, and interested in smart cities and digital twins 01:19:05 hiroki: Hiroki Endo from NHK 01:19:14 ... from Tokyo, Japan 01:19:38 ... I'm a research engineer from NHK, a public broadcaster 01:19:59 ... I'm the Chair of the Medea Content Metadata CG 01:20:23 kunihiko: Kunihik Toumura from Hitachi 01:20:38 ... working for WoT around Architecture and Discovery 01:21:03 ... would like to see the gaps between the existing standards and the current situation around smart cities 01:21:12 topic: Logistics 01:21:20 subtopic: Meeting schedule 01:22:12 kaz: there was a proposal to move the Monday slot one hour later 01:22:25 ... to accommodate Pacific/Asia guys also 01:22:34 ... but would that be feasible? 01:23:31 daihei: the question is if we could make some slot for each area 01:23:59 ... slot 1 is 5 or 6 am in California on Monday 01:24:43 ... if the other participants are OK, I can join that slot 01:25:05 hiroki: technically, both would be OK 01:25:16 ... but morning would be better, though 01:25:36 kunihiko: also OK with the both slots 01:26:23 kaz: thank you all! 01:26:56 ... sorry about the inconvenience but would be great if we could have one specific slot 01:27:22 ... Koster, would it be OK by you too? 01:27:32 koster: yeah, fine by me 01:27:45 ... we can proceed with the direction then 01:28:10 resolution: Slot 2 participants are OK to have one single slot on Monday at 11pm JST 01:28:23 subtopic: GitHbu 01:28:30 s/Hbu/Hub/ 01:28:57 koster: we'd like to use GitHub repo to manage agenda and resources 01:29:08 ... would be better to have one place for that purpose 01:29:22 ... anyone has any issue about that? 01:29:29 (no problems) 01:29:39 kaz: ok 01:29:46 ... I'll create a repo 01:30:13 koster: any other considerations around logistics? 01:30:15 (none) 01:30:20 topic: Charter 01:30:44 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/06/smart-cities/ IG Charter 01:31:06 mjk has joined #smart-cities 01:31:10 scribenick: mjk 01:31:33 s/Charter/Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities Interest Group Charter/ 01:31:52 kaz: (reviewing the charter document) 01:32:22 [[ 01:32:23 Scope Summary 01:32:23 Identification of stakeholders from the industries, countries/cities and communities to involve in the group's discussion 01:32:23 Survey on the existing technologies and standards for Smart Cities, e.g., possible building blocks of Digital Twin Framework and standardized Vocabularies for Smart Cities 01:32:24 ... the charter started early in the year but we started the discussion at TPAC 01:32:24 Best Practices on what kind of technologies to be applied to what kind of Smart Cities applications, e.g., WoT, Automotive, Geospatial, VR/AR, Speech and Semantic Web to be applied to improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy management 01:32:27 Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities 01:32:31 ]] 01:32:40 Koster is the chair and Kaz is the team contact 01:33:36 [[ 01:33:37 Survey on the existing technologies and standards for Smart Cities (Technology Landscape) 01:33:37 Best Practices on what technologies, e.g., WoT, Automotive, Geospatial, VR/AR, Speech and Semantic Web, to be applied for what kind of Smart Cities applications, e.g., improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy management. 01:33:38 Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities 01:33:38 ]] 01:34:10 The work is to identify stakeholders across industry, survey technologies, and determine best practices 01:34:34 The deliverables are structured around these areas 01:35:26 kaz: (reviews the list of related groups and liaisons) 01:35:55 s/The work/kaz: The work/ 01:36:24 s/The deliverables/kaz: The deliverables 01:36:55 kaz: what are you opinions about other deliverables? 01:36:58 q+ 01:37:39 hiroki: should add MCM-JP CG 01:37:40 endo: We should add the Media Contents Japan CG 01:37:46 s/hiroki: should add MCM-JP CG// 01:38:51 kaz: we can add more deliverables later 01:39:00 topic: Next steps 01:39:29 scribenick: kaz 01:39:50 koster: what are the next steps? 01:40:49 kaz: let's update the lists of the stakeholders on GitHub 01:41:01 ... also start to invite key stakeholders to our calls 01:41:10 koster: sounds good 01:41:36 ... in addition to the official IG deliverables, we're expected to generate a Team Report around smart cities 01:42:36 kaz: right 01:42:59 ... I'd like to generate some short whitepaper about smart cities based on the Charter 01:43:03 koster: ok 01:43:22 ... then last night, McCool proposed we collect resources on GitHub 01:43:32 kaz: right 01:43:42 ... I can generate some template MD for that purpose 01:44:06 koster: the "resources" should include the list of stakeholders 01:44:20 ... survey on the existing standards, etc. 01:44:31 ... then plan and prioritize our "deliverables" 01:44:59 ... what else at the moment? 01:45:19 kaz: yeah, let's start with those initial points 01:45:35 koster: ok. we can find what our gaps are later 01:46:04 ... regarding our liaisons, we should clarify the scope of each liaison 01:46:16 ... for example, geolocation data is very important 01:46:26 ... good area to work with OGC and SDW WG 01:46:55 ... smart city topics is very broad 01:47:34 ... ISO, IEC and JTC1, e.g., SC41 have made progress 01:47:54 ... we've got liaison (via WoT) with ETSI/FIWARE 01:48:10 ... property graphs from NGSI-LD 01:49:00 ... good to know about their latest situation 01:49:23 ... so making actual contacts with them and invite them to our calls would make sense 01:50:22 kaz: we can talk with Torbjorn Larin who works for both the Nordic Chapter CG and JTC1 01:50:33 koster: right 01:50:49 ... we should consider system developers also 01:51:32 kaz: yeah, I have contacts from Takenaka, etc. 01:51:44 koster: working on smart buildings? 01:51:46 kaz: right 01:52:13 koster: what about ECHONET? 01:52:33 kaz: these days they're working on electric power grid also 01:52:45 koster: energy management is important 01:53:01 ... could involve energy power companies also 01:53:30 ... so we have liaison targets and will have a list of them on GitHub 01:53:35 ... any other suggestions? 01:54:06 q+ 01:54:29 kaz: we can generate another document about existing documents 01:54:49 ... e.g., Mozilla's document about data governance and security 01:54:57 koster: yeah 01:55:15 q? 01:55:19 kaz: will generate several template MDs for those topics 01:55:37 hiroki: would propose we work on gap analysis too 01:55:56 ... wondering about the scope of the survey 01:56:37 ... survey first and then gap analysis 01:56:57 koster: yeah, very good point 01:57:50 ... along with the use cases and requirements, we can do gap analysis 01:58:03 ack h 01:58:16 topic: AOB? 01:58:27 mjk: we have 2 more minutes 01:58:32 ... any other business for today? 01:58:43 ... the next meeting will be held in March 01:59:21 ... we don't have many assignments so far 01:59:47 kaz: after I create the GitHub repo, everybody can work hard on the content :) 02:00:12 daihei: would like to share this group's aims to the publishing companies 02:00:43 ... would be great to show them brief description about the IG 02:00:53 koster: so-called "one pager"? 02:01:04 daihei: yeah 02:01:32 ... concise document about why people need to work on smart cities 02:01:44 kaz: let's have some more discussion about that offline 02:01:50 koster: ok 02:02:04 ... any other business before adjourned? 02:02:05 (none) 02:02:32 koster: thank you very much for agreeing to the one single slot! 02:02:38 ... talk to you all in March for the next call 02:02:46 ... please put your ideas on GitHub 02:03:01 [adjourned] 02:03:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 02:03:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 02:06:39 i|Team Contact|scribenick: kaz| 02:06:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 02:06:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 10:31:29 Zakim has left #smart-cities