12:48:31 RRSAgent has joined #smart-cities 12:48:35 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-irc 12:48:45 meeting: Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 12:48:51 present+ Kaz_Ashimura 12:48:54 chair: Koster 12:49:16 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-smart-cities/2025Feb/0001.html 12:49:51 rrsagent, make log public 12:49:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:49:57 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:01:37 ktoumura has joined #smart-cities 13:02:08 Mizushima has joined #smart-cities 13:03:43 Linda has joined #smart-cities 13:04:06 mjk has joined #smart-cities 13:04:36 McCool has joined #smart-cities 13:05:08 present+ Lieven_Raes, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Song_Xu, Kunihiniko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Raul_Garcia_Castro 13:05:11 Song has joined #smart-cities 13:05:32 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-smart-cities/2025Feb/0001.html 13:05:42 preesnt+ Linda_van_den_Brink 13:05:48 topic: Intro 13:06:35 koster: working on smart building. device architect 13:07:04 ... also co-chairing WoT and bunch of standards 13:07:11 (Michael Koster is the Chair of the IG) 13:07:27 scribe+ mjk 13:07:47 topic: Introductions 13:08:04 kaz: Team Contact 13:08:14 song: China Mobile 13:09:01 i/eam/scribe+ 13:09:07 mizushima: IRI japan 13:09:17 ... working on WoT WG/IG 13:09:52 lieven: interested in Digital Twins 13:10:03 ... quite a lot experience 13:10:16 ... predict the impact of the smart cities 13:10:48 q? 13:11:19 mccool: Intel 13:11:25 ... also co-Chair of WoT 13:11:42 ... a lot experience on parallel computing, edge computing, AI, ... 13:11:55 raul: work at university Madrid 13:12:09 ... ontology-related research 13:12:20 ... knowledge graph, etc., also 13:12:32 ... committing to SSN Ontology 13:12:43 Song has joined #smart-cities 13:13:02 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:13:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:13:29 linda: Geonoble from Netherland 13:13:36 ... also working for OGC 13:13:43 ... used to chair the SDW group 13:14:23 toumura: Hitachi 13:14:32 ... working on integration 13:14:47 ... want to know how to combine multiple technologies 13:14:53 s/Geonoble/Geonovum 13:15:16 song: (better audio) 13:15:33 ... co-Chairing the Web&Networks IG 13:15:46 ... working with McCool about several projects 13:15:54 ... also work for W3C as BoD 13:16:16 q? 13:16:17 present+ Linda_van_den_Brink 13:16:27 q+ 13:16:36 topic: Logistics 13:17:07 subtopic: Meeting schedule 13:17:21 mm: we have two slots 13:17:25 ... there are pros and cons 13:17:39 Sorry to correct, AB not BoD. :) kaz 13:17:53 ... maybe we could move this one hour later, for example 13:18:11 s/as BoD/as AB/ 13:19:10 -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/e7Yy1x1b 1st Doodle 13:20:16 kaz: if we can move that call, we can consider that as an additional candidate 13:20:21 mjk: ok by me 13:20:28 q? 13:20:30 q+ 13:22:05 kaz: we should ask the other people's opinions 13:23:28 mjk: any problems, all? 13:23:39 ... one single slot would be better 13:24:11 q+ 13:24:31 linda: one hour earlier / later would be ok 13:24:34 ack m 13:24:35 ack k 13:24:39 ack mc 13:24:43 q+ Mizushima 13:25:21 mizushima: slots around this time is ok 13:25:32 ack m 13:26:03 I also prefer to night time, +/- 1hr works 13:26:09 toumura: one-hour later than this slot is ok 13:26:31 kaz: what about you, Raul 13:26:36 raul: good 13:27:14 kaz: I'll ask Daihei about his availability 13:27:18 mjk: good 13:27:33 subtopic: GitHub 13:27:55 mjk: Kaz proposes to create a GitHub repo 13:28:14 ... should we have wiki also? 13:28:17 q+ 13:28:52 kaz: would suggest we simply use GitHub only :) 13:29:07 mm: easier to use only one MD notation :) 13:29:09 q- 13:29:18 mjk: ok 13:29:18 +1 for github 13:29:23 ... would make sense 13:29:36 action: kaz to create a GitHub repo for smart cities IG 13:29:51 subtopic: Any other logistics issue? 13:29:53 (none) 13:30:03 topic: Quick review of IG Charter 13:30:16 scribenick: mjk 13:30:37 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/06/smart-cities/ IG Charter 13:32:09 q+ 13:32:47 kaz: shares screen with the IG Charter and walks through 13:33:04 ... we may need to add some liaison groups 13:33:29 ... for example spatial data 13:34:13 ... the biggest issue is we are 6 months late in the process 13:35:00 ... the biggest question is how to create a web based platform for smart city digital twins 13:35:40 [[ 13:35:41 Scope Summary 13:35:41 Identification of stakeholders from the industries, countries/cities and communities to involve in the group's discussion 13:35:41 Survey on the existing technologies and standards for Smart Cities, e.g., possible building blocks of Digital Twin Framework and standardized Vocabularies for Smart Cities 13:35:42 Best Practices on what kind of technologies to be applied to what kind of Smart Cities applications, e.g., WoT, Automotive, Geospatial, VR/AR, Speech and Semantic Web to be applied to improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy management 13:35:45 Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities 13:35:47 ]] 13:36:04 q 13:36:07 Song has joined #smart-cities 13:36:13 mm: the scope is quite broad, what is hte priority 13:36:17 s/hte/the 13:36:46 mm: we should prioritize other W3C activities 13:37:07 ... also think about gaps, what is gaps 13:37:09 i|the scope|topic: Discussion| 13:37:21 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:37:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 13:37:43 q? 13:38:02 scribe+ 13:38:04 kaz: right 13:38:19 ... let's discuss which group to start with first then 13:38:43 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/06/smart-cities/#coordination Coordination 13:39:00 mjk: Spatial Data 13:39:02 mm: RDF-Start 13:39:06 s/Start/Star/ 13:39:51 ... maybe we don't need to handle it ourselves in the end but we can look into their work 13:40:38 ... note that different groups tackle different approaches 13:40:56 ... need to understand how linked data is handled by them 13:41:04 q? 13:41:07 ack m 13:41:49 kaz: maybe we can use the GitHub repo to continue our research for those topics 13:42:04 mm: we can use GitHub Issues mechanism for that purpose 13:42:20 mjk: ok 13:42:33 ... we can start with creating GitHub Issues to initiate discussion 13:43:21 kaz: once I've created a GitHub repo, you can create an Issue, McCool :) 13:43:32 mm: and invite people to do so as well 13:44:12 q+ 13:44:29 subtopic: Liaisons 13:44:43 mm: organizations working on smart cities in general 13:44:57 ... not necessarily an SDO 13:45:14 ... intersection with the Web would narrow the scope later 13:45:27 ... there are three bubbles here 13:45:33 ... 1. Smart Cities 13:45:47 ... 2. Web 13:45:56 q? 13:46:04 ... 3. Digital Twins 13:46:06 ack m 13:46:08 mjk: right 13:46:28 ... given the success of ETSI around NGSI-LD 13:46:51 ... some of the groups working on smart cities would make sense 13:47:20 ... like a group of Matter 13:47:29 q? 13:47:47 subtopic: Existing resources 13:47:48 q+ 13:48:01 mm: should have resources.md to gather information 13:48:13 ... short summary of the topics 13:48:18 mjk: yeah 13:48:55 kaz: shall I do that? 13:49:01 mm: good 13:49:19 ... we should invite people to review it 13:49:38 ... also we can talk about our priority as well 13:49:48 mjk: like the NGSI-LD guys 13:49:51 mm: right 13:50:03 ... how to deal with geolocation information is important 13:50:14 kaz: right 13:50:23 ... we can ask Linda for help :) 13:50:41 q- 13:50:53 mjk: that would be a good place for the discussion 13:51:09 q+ 13:51:16 subtopic: Deliverables? 13:51:32 mm: can talk about our deliverables? 13:51:37 mjk: good question 13:52:07 [[ 13:52:14 Survey on the existing technologies and standards for Smart Cities (Technology Landscape) 13:52:15 Best Practices on what technologies, e.g., WoT, Automotive, Geospatial, VR/AR, Speech and Semantic Web, to be applied for what kind of Smart Cities applications, e.g., improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy management. 13:52:17 Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities 13:52:19 ]] 13:52:38 mm: according to the Charter, the deliverables are as above 13:53:03 lieven: meet a requirement or not 13:53:16 ... meet a feature also 13:53:41 ... what about prediction, cross-domain integration, etc. 13:53:45 q+ 13:54:31 ... once formulate the requirements, should analyze possible gaps with potential standards 13:54:37 mm: good point 13:54:47 ... e.g., WoT is organizing user stories 13:55:08 ... analyzing the purpose of the task 13:55:20 lieven: would support that 13:55:23 ack m 13:55:42 scribenick: McCool 13:56:10 suggest user story approach, As an X I need Y in order to Z. Z is purpose, can also be a task (e.g. in order to make decisions based on data). 13:56:48 X is stakeholder, Y is feature (e.g. property graphs) 13:57:22 scribenick: kaz 13:57:40 kaz: another topics is possible Team Report about Smart Cities 13:57:47 ... I can generate some document based on the Charter 13:58:01 ... and I believe it would be useful for our IG discussion as well 13:58:07 topic: Next meeting 13:58:11 mjk: next week 13:59:14 ... will update the agenda on the GitHub repo 13:59:17 [adjourned] 13:59:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:59:27 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:01:04 i/working on/scribenick: kaz/ 14:01:05 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:01:06 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 14:04:42 i/working on smart building/scribenick: kaz/ 14:04:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:04:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html kaz 16:02:05 Zakim has left #smart-cities