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13:56:24 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), matatk
13:56:29 <matatk> chair: Matthew
13:56:33 <matatk> regrets+ Janina
13:56:37 <matatk> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:56:37 <matatk> agenda+ FAST demo
13:56:37 <matatk> agenda+ FAST plans
13:56:37 <matatk> agenda+ FAST & AG
13:56:38 <matatk> agenda+ WCAG & APA horizontal reviews
13:56:38 <matatk> agenda+ FAST & AG WG - next steps
13:56:38 <matatk> agenda+ New on TR
13:56:39 <matatk> agenda+ Spec review requests
13:56:39 <matatk> agenda+ Comment review requests
13:56:39 <matatk> agenda+ CSS Update
13:56:40 <matatk> agenda+ Other business
13:56:40 <matatk> agenda+ Be done
13:56:44 <matatk> agenda?
13:57:04 <matatk> meeting: APA Weekly Telecon
13:57:11 <matatk> present+
13:57:14 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutes
13:57:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/12-apa-minutes.html matatk
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15:03:30 <matatk> rrsagent, make minutest
15:03:30 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutest', matatk.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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15:03:55 <Eric_hind> rrsagent, make minutes
15:03:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/12-apa-minutes.html Eric_hind
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15:05:13 <shawn> ( kudos for Lounge improvements also go to Ken F https://www.w3.org/staff/wai/#kfranqueiro )
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15:05:23 <Eric_hind> zakim, next item
15:05:23 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from matatk]
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15:05:37 <Eric_hind> zakim, next item
15:05:37 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Eric_hind
15:05:47 <Eric_hind> zakim, close item
15:05:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Eric_hind
15:06:01 <Eric_hind> zakim, close this item
15:06:01 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:06:01 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:06:01 <Zakim> 2. FAST demo [from matatk]
15:06:09 <Eric_hind> zakim, next item
15:06:09 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- FAST demo -- taken up [from matatk]
15:07:10 <shawn> [ screen sharing does not work well for Shawn. hopefully you can share the presentation separately?]
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15:09:41 <alastairc> URL for the record: https://w3c.github.io/fast/
15:12:40 <Eric_hind> matatk: FAST; update on Framework for Accessible Specification of Technologies. Currently has complex taxonomy, user needs like perception of content, functional needs like limited color perception.  Issue is that there are empty sections - we need to collect advice and context.  May help to think of functional by user needs as rows and columns on
15:12:40 <Eric_hind> a sheet.
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15:14:58 <Eric_hind> matatk: Looking for advice on what the spec needs to provide, what the author/content creator needs to make, and the user agent and Assistive Technology related to them.  This can be done in GitHub and then a generated table style format might be generated- or alternatively, like the FAST document itself
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15:15:58 <Eric_hind> matatk: Hope is that GitHub will be source of truth, then TR style document to be created from that.
15:17:08 <matatk> zakim, next item
15:17:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- FAST plans -- taken up [from matatk]
15:18:45 <Eric_hind> Fredrik: Want to get as much expert knowledge as possible into these cross points.  Already reaching out to the right people but any proposal of help is welcome.  A coordinated matrix will be a result with the content added.  This will be a dynamic, updated document - we know that we don't know everything so this will be a living document.
15:19:19 <Eric_hind> Fredrik: Ask is, how may we support and be supported?
15:19:32 <Dr_Keith> q+
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15:19:40 <shawn> q+
15:19:44 <alastairc> q+ on matrix and intersectional needs confusion
15:19:49 <matatk> ack Dr_Keith
15:21:57 <Eric_hind> Dr_Keith: Confirm that GitHub will be source of truth.  Fredrik: Yes, but there will be a linear TR format - and it will be searchable.
15:22:51 <matatk> q?
15:23:13 <matatk> ack Chuck
15:23:15 <Eric_hind> Dr_Keith: Is this a conventional search or potentially going to an LLM or other method?  Fredrik: We haven't settled on anything yet TBD. Gathering info is first priority
15:23:48 <matatk> q?
15:23:59 <Eric_hind> Chuck: Expect chairs to have discussions and give opinions.
15:24:05 <matatk> ack shawn
15:25:18 <alastairc> AT for authoring tool or assistive tech?
15:26:34 <matatk> ack alastairc
15:26:34 <Zakim> alastairc, you wanted to comment on matrix and intersectional needs confusion
15:26:36 <Eric_hind> Shawn: To step up a level, regarding shared purpose, audience, etc.  What are the foundational goals or research?  Matatk: This will be in the document and this might be a good topic for future meeting (to settle these foundational issues)
15:27:49 <Eric_hind> Alastairc: Intersectional needs are mathematical or no?  Matatk: Term used in mathematical approach like crosspoints.
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15:28:55 <Eric_hind> Alastairc: In v3, doing things top down is occasionally showing gaps.  What we're discussing would be positive for requirement coverage for our group
15:29:10 <Chuck> q+
15:29:18 <matatk> ack Chuck
15:29:41 <Francis_Storr> +1 to chuck
15:29:42 <Eric_hind> matatk: Is there chair interest in helping out?  Chuck: This would be helpful and would be best started out after CSUN
15:29:48 <alastairc> +1, also happy to catchup at CSUN if you are there.
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15:30:41 <Eric_hind> Matatk: We will definitely revisit this.
15:31:11 <shawn> agenda?
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15:32:46 <Eric_hind> matatk: Returning to APA - note that Todd is present and available.
15:33:25 <Eric_hind> Matatk: And welcome to Chiara too.
15:33:53 <Eric_hind> Matatk: Now onto Zakim 7, new on TR.
15:34:41 <Eric_hind> Matatk: Introductions to Chiara and Todd to group
15:47:11 <matatk> zakim, take up item 8
15:47:11 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Spec review requests -- taken up [from matatk]
15:47:48 <matatk> subtopic: WebCodecs
15:47:48 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/97
15:47:48 <matatk> Due: 2025-02-28
15:50:20 <Eric_hind> Matatk: Web codecs use cases are not yet finalized per issue 97 link.  Two issues; looking for a11Y considerations, as well as streaming out different channel and route them to different devices.
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15:51:48 <mike_beganyi> q?
15:51:58 <mike_beganyi> q+
15:52:12 <Eric_hind> Matatk: Asking for more use cases, looking to get this to the explainer level.  Any thoughts or contributions around this kind of routing/streaming?
15:53:02 <Eric_hind> mike_beganyi:  Existing tech related to channel splitting might be applicable to this kind of question.
15:54:18 <matatk> q?
15:54:22 <matatk> ack mike_beganyi
15:55:07 <Eric_hind> David Fazio: this has the potential to be very complicated.
15:55:31 <matatk> topic: Next time...
15:55:37 <matatk> Re-chartering! https://github.com/w3c/apa/blob/charter-2025/charter.html
15:57:04 <matatk> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Key_Resources_and_Links
15:58:19 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
15:58:19 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been matatk, toddl, Eric_hind, JennE, Fazio, mike_beganyi, shawn, kevin, Chuck, Fredrik, Iali, Dr_Keith, gpellegrino, Francis_Storr
15:58:22 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/12-apa-minutes.html Zakim
15:58:29 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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