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15:50:26 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
15:50:40 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
15:50:50 <Fazio> Chair: David Fazio
15:51:41 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
15:51:41 <Fazio> Agenda+ Publication Messaging Update
15:51:41 <Fazio> Agenda+ Recharter Discussion
15:51:41 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue ##226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics
15:51:42 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #228 Syncing proof points in the MM document and the assessment tool
15:51:42 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request)
15:51:42 <gb> /issues/193 -> #193
15:51:42 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
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16:02:34 <jkline> zakim, next item
16:02:34 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:02:48 <jkline> present+
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16:03:44 <CharlesL> agenda?
16:03:47 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
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16:06:14 <jkline> Funka max has a maturity tool process that could be possible adopted for a w3c mm tool
16:07:19 <jkline> Janina - will present draft of MM statement next Monday
16:08:01 <jkline> Janina - Draft is available for comment to the group
16:08:20 <janina> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  assists organizations in building the  capacity to develop and maintain their products and services
16:08:24 <janina> in conformance with W3C standards.
16:08:24 <jkline> Janina - is a 1 page summary
16:09:03 <jkline> queue+
16:09:06 <Mark_Miller> q+
16:09:45 <jkline> Janina - recharter of our organization March 31
16:10:41 <Sheri_B-H> q+
16:12:36 <jkline> Janina - if we work on something normative, it needs to be in the new charter, once a normative element is defined
16:12:50 <Sheri_B-H> ack jkline
16:13:07 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: replace assists with enables
16:13:51 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: add internal IT to products and services
16:14:31 <Sheri_B-H> janina: thinks it should be softer.  we aren't the only one that does this.  enables implies they can't do it without us
16:15:23 <Sheri_B-H> Janina: the second one is from the existing charter, do we really want to change it?
16:16:10 <Fazio> q?
16:16:21 <Fazio> ack Mark_Miller
16:16:26 <Sheri_B-H> Mark_Miller: also prefers assists, because it isn't prescriptive
16:16:38 <Sheri_B-H> Mark_Miller: change capacity to capability
16:16:54 <jkline> Mark - look at "guides" vs "assists" in building the capability
16:18:49 <jkline> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in building the  capability to Buy, build, or use  in conformance with W3C standards.
16:19:50 <jkline> Add ICT after Use
16:20:32 <Fazio> q?
16:21:14 <jkline> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in building the  capability to Buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets.
16:21:14 <jkline> 11:19 <jkline> Add ICT after Use
16:22:52 <jkline> remove ICT and replace with digital assets
16:23:35 <CharlesL> q+
16:24:24 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: add "for internal or external use" after digital assets
16:24:54 <Fazio> q?
16:24:54 <Sheri_B-H> q-
16:25:02 <Sheri_B-H> ack charlesL
16:25:06 <Fazio> ack CharlesL
16:25:15 <jkline> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in building the  capability to Buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets for internal and external use.
16:26:28 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: believes we need internal external
16:26:34 <Sheri_B-H> janina Strong +1
16:26:58 <Sheri_B-H> CharlesL: suggests we go back to the digital assets, products, services that was in the original
16:27:16 <CharlesL> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in building the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use.
16:27:24 <Fazio> q?
16:29:17 <Sheri_B-H> add to the end "and track trends and changes over time"
16:29:33 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by developing an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in building the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use and track trends and changes over time
16:31:48 <jkline> Mark - digital assets not in the document key terms
16:34:03 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force promotes the mission of W3C/WAI by providing  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use and track trends and changes over time
16:34:21 <Fazio> q?
16:35:21 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force by providing  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use and track trends and changes over time
16:35:39 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force provides  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use and track trends and changes over time
16:36:13 <Fazio> q?
16:36:56 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force by providing  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible digital assets, products and services, for internal and external use and track changes and trends over time
16:37:14 <jkline> reverse order of trends and changes to changes and trends
16:37:34 <Fazio> q?
16:37:57 <Fazio> q?
16:38:13 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force by providing  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible internal and external digital assets, products and services  and track changes and trends over time
16:38:30 <Sheri_B-H> The Maturity Model (MM) Task Force provides  an Accessibility Maturity Model (AMM) that  guides organizations in developing the capability to buy, build, or use  accessible internal and external digital assets, products and services  and track changes and trends over time
16:38:32 <Fazio> q?
16:41:22 <jkline> Janina will let this statement sit fir a while and propose change if needed
16:42:33 <jkline> Zakim, next item
16:42:33 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Publication Messaging Update -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:43:03 <jkline> Janina - no updates yet
16:44:13 <janina>  WAI CC Agenda at: https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI-CC_agendas
16:45:25 <jkline> Zakim, close this item
16:45:25 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:45:28 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:45:28 <Zakim> 3. Recharter Discussion [from Fazio]
16:45:37 <jkline> Zakim, next item
16:45:37 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Recharter Discussion -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:46:21 <Fazio> agenda?
16:46:22 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
16:46:22 <gb> /issues/193 -> #193
16:46:35 <jkline> agenda ?
16:47:00 <janina> zakim, close agendum 3
16:47:00 <Zakim> agendum 3, Recharter Discussion, closed
16:47:02 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:47:02 <Zakim> 4. Github Issue ##226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics [from Fazio]
16:47:57 <jkline> Jeff - sent language from my book for use in metrics and goals
16:48:23 <jkline> Jeff - I give permission to use in part or entirety
16:49:26 <jkline> Zakim, end meeting
16:49:26 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Fazio, Mark_Miller, CharlesL, Sheri_B-H, stacey, jkline
16:49:28 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:49:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/02/05-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
16:49:37 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jkline; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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16:58:18 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:58:18 <RRSAgent> I see no action items