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14:45:35 <Zakim> Meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference
14:45:40 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, clear agenda
14:45:40 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:45:51 <ChrisLoiselle> chair:  Mary Jo Mueller and Chris Loiselle
14:45:57 <ChrisLoiselle> meeting:  WCAG2ICT Task Force Teleconference
14:46:04 <ChrisLoiselle> rrsagent, make minutes
14:46:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/30-wcag2ict-minutes.html ChrisLoiselle
14:46:13 <ChrisLoiselle> Zakim, please time speakers at 2 minutes
14:46:13 <Zakim> ok, ChrisLoiselle
14:46:34 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda+ Announcements
14:46:56 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda+ Phase 2 of WCAG2ICT update – work statement
14:47:29 <ChrisLoiselle> Regrets: Mitch
14:47:38 <ChrisLoiselle> Present+
14:49:23 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda+ Work on Explainer Document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hyei09Viby1bCoZnDLYwY9VWpzRvteK9pqt4v9sWCJE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.wlcptmhola14
14:49:26 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda?
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14:59:18 <ShawnT> present+
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15:02:39 <bruce_bailey> present+
15:02:42 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda?
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15:04:10 <ChrisLoiselle> Regrets: Daniel
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15:04:17 <loicmn> present+
15:04:21 <LauraM> present+
15:04:40 <LauraM> ChrisLoiselle - I have to cut out at 10:30 am
15:05:43 <ChrisLoiselle> scribe: ChrisLoiselle
15:05:47 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda?
15:05:56 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, take up next
15:05:56 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Announcements -- taken up [from ChrisLoiselle]
15:06:26 <maryjom> q+
15:06:39 <ChrisLoiselle> ack maryjom
15:07:07 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: Work statement has been approved from AG.
15:07:18 <ChrisLoiselle> The AG WG Chairs have approved our updated WCAG2ICT work statement with no changes.
15:07:19 <ChrisLoiselle> The PR will be incorporated probably next week after the WAI website update/redesign gets published.
15:07:45 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, take up next
15:07:45 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Phase 2 of WCAG2ICT update – work statement -- taken up [from ChrisLoiselle]
15:08:01 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
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15:08:11 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, take up next
15:08:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, ChrisLoiselle
15:08:12 <Devanshu> present+
15:08:18 <maryjom> present+
15:08:19 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:08:25 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, take up next
15:08:25 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, ChrisLoiselle
15:08:47 <bruce_bailey> q+
15:09:26 <ChrisLoiselle> zakim, take up next
15:09:26 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, ChrisLoiselle
15:09:29 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:09:35 <ChrisLoiselle> ack bruce_bailey
15:09:52 <ChrisLoiselle> Bruce: May be delated on work statement update due to third Thursday publish date with W3C
15:09:53 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:10:34 <bruce_bailey> s/May be delated/May be delayed/
15:12:08 <bruce_bailey> zakim, take up next
15:12:08 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Work on Explainer Document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hyei09Viby1bCoZnDLYwY9VWpzRvteK9pqt4v9sWCJE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.wlcptmhola14 -- taken up [from
15:12:11 <Zakim> ... ChrisLoiselle]
15:12:16 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:12:41 <bruce_bailey> My apologies for not having already made a pass at the section I volunteered for.
15:14:52 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:15:53 <ShawnT> q+
15:15:57 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:16:00 <maryjom> q+
15:16:04 <ChrisLoiselle> ack ShawnT
15:16:46 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: Glossary is good to have. Referencing W3C and WCAG would be great. I can research it further.
15:17:09 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:17:48 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: I agree. We do need a glossary. I don't think a definition for explainer. We aren't using that as end term.
15:18:00 <ShawnT> ack ShawnT
15:18:42 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:18:57 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: I think we can point to WCAG and their definitions.
15:20:24 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:20:35 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: glossary based on outcome of document terms used.
15:20:43 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: I agree.
15:21:50 <maryjom> scribe+ maryjom
15:22:18 <maryjom> chris: "Informative" should be defined in the glossary.
15:22:52 <maryjom> chris: Went through the current informative references list in the document.
15:22:59 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:23:11 <ChrisLoiselle> ack Maryjo
15:23:14 <LauraM> Q+
15:23:24 <maryjom> ...thinks we should add links as we work on the document.
15:24:18 <maryjom> ...we're holding off on alternative outlines - especially since we aren't officially making an Explainer.
15:25:22 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:26:11 <maryjom> laura" are we worried about the informative references being just links right now?
15:26:30 <maryjom> s/laura"/laura:/
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15:26:54 <maryjom> ...should we add references to the standards?
15:27:40 <maryjom> ...and other references such as kiosk, self-service references
15:27:52 <maryjom> ChrisLoiselle: I can work on references.
15:28:04 <maryjom> laura: I can also help populate that section
15:28:22 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:28:26 <ChrisLoiselle> ack LauraM
15:28:27 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:29:05 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: Tag explainer template can be removed.
15:29:20 <ChrisLoiselle> ... WCAG2ICT Overview does it need to be referenced?
15:29:34 <ChrisLoiselle> Is WCAG2ICT for topic to be separate?
15:29:45 <ChrisLoiselle> Bruce: it is one sentence, worth expanding on perhaps.
15:29:55 <maryjom> bruce: (regarding  alternative outlines) We may want to expand on "Who WCAG2ICT is for" - one sentence.
15:33:18 <maryjom> maryjo:  The "Who develops WCAG2ICT" may also be worth including
15:33:21 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:33:49 <maryjom> chris: we could add that info with a link to our work statement.
15:34:48 <maryjom> ChrisLoiselle: From alternative outlines - who develops WCAG2ICT has a sub-bullet "comments" - what was the intent of this?
15:35:15 <maryjom> bruce: not sure.
15:35:31 <maryjom> ChrisLoiselle We'll leave that part out then.
15:36:18 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: To Bruce, contact Kevin about IRC drop. They thought they fixed it.
15:36:20 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:36:38 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: They are still working on issue of drops.
15:37:40 <ChrisLoiselle> https://www.irccloud.com/
15:38:23 <maryjom> ChrisLoiselle Experiences drops from IRC a lot. Uses IRC Cloud - they have a version you pay for and one you don't. I have the paid for version and it works great.
15:38:41 <maryjom> s/Experiences/Experienced/
15:39:48 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: Textual7 for Mac OS is an application I use for IRC for reference
15:40:13 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:42:13 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: TAG explainer differs from our document, so could possibly remove as we reference in our work statement.
15:43:18 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:43:26 <ChrisLoiselle> agenda?
15:45:08 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: Technology specific guidance aspect of our work vs. mobile accessibility task force topic. Where to be added? Our document or within theirs?
15:45:11 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:45:53 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: Spreadsheet on analysis to be done on differences. Perhaps Sam and Phil could assist.
15:45:55 <ChrisLoiselle> q>
15:45:57 <ChrisLoiselle> q?
15:47:13 <ChrisLoiselle> Perhaps single source , WCAG2ICT vs. just mobile.
15:47:21 <ChrisLoiselle> Talk to JJ after our analysis is complete
15:47:49 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: I Think that is great. Same spot would be easier.
15:48:29 <ChrisLoiselle> MaryJo: We can put technology specific notes in our document. That could be one example of technology specific.
15:48:56 <ChrisLoiselle> ShawnT: ATM machines , perhaps Laura can add in additional context.
15:50:37 <ChrisLoiselle> rrsagent, make minutes
15:50:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/30-wcag2ict-minutes.html ChrisLoiselle
15:52:16 <ChrisLoiselle> Daniel stated it doesn't have a Google drive per se. Its the user's own google drive to save the document. We will follow up with him.
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15:53:08 <ChrisLoiselle> Zakim, end meeting
15:53:08 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been ChrisLoiselle, ShawnT, bruce_bailey, loicmn, LauraM, Devanshu, maryjom
15:53:10 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
15:53:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/30-wcag2ict-minutes.html Zakim
15:53:18 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, ChrisLoiselle; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
15:53:18 <ChrisLoiselle> rrsagent, bye
15:53:18 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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