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15:45:56 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
15:46:25 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
15:46:52 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
15:47:56 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
15:47:56 <Fazio> Agenda+ Publication Strategy
15:47:56 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue ##226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics
15:47:56 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #228 Determine if the proof points in the MM document and the assessment tool should be synced
15:47:56 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
15:47:58 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request)
15:47:58 <gb> /issues/193 -> #193
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16:03:31 <janina> agenda?
16:03:32 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
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16:04:13 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, next item
16:04:13 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:05:14 <Sheri_B-H> janina: IRC problems will hopefully be fixed tomorrow.  Report disconnects after tomorrow to Janina and Mathew
16:06:54 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, next item
16:06:54 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Publication Strategy -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:08:25 <Sheri_B-H> janina: made a few changes to the messaging
16:08:36 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: also made some changes and sent PR to janina
16:09:43 <Sheri_B-H> janina: to proceed to management, we need a date that we anticipate being ready
16:10:19 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: that largely depends on the spreadsheet.
16:10:38 <Sheri_B-H> janina: for 1.0 they have to be in sync (the spreadsheet and the narrative)
16:11:06 <janina> q?
16:11:06 <jkline> queue+
16:11:18 <Sheri_B-H> q-
16:11:27 <Sheri_B-H> ack jkline
16:11:47 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: we should be able to do it in the next couple of sessions
16:12:13 <Sheri_B-H> janina: that sounds like mid-Feb
16:12:43 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: added a new issue about financial planning and budgeting
16:13:15 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: Stacey and Jason had previously mentioned that also.
16:13:31 <Fazio> q?
16:13:32 <Sheri_B-H> jkline and Fazio: we can review as new business at the next meeting
16:13:34 <Sheri_B-H> zakim, next item
16:13:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Github Issue ##226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:14:10 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/226
16:14:11 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/226 -> Issue 226 Add an explanatory section on dimension goals and metrics (by jasonjgw)
16:14:22 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: came from Jason, we have previously discussed it.  Stacey has a proposed result
16:14:29 <Sheri_B-H> response*
16:14:54 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: read the issue out loud
16:15:48 <Fazio> We're talking about adding a short message about the subjectivity of setting goals and metrics.
16:15:48 <Fazio> Here's a starting place. Wondering if this is on the right track to address the concern? Would love feedback and more insights to what you'd want to have added for clarity (especially for those who wouldn't be accessibility experts):
16:15:48 <Fazio> Creating accessibility metrics and goals is subjective. Similar to creating goals and metrics for products and features, you must consider the organization type, needs, maturity, staffing, funding, and yearly objectives.
16:17:25 <jkline> queue+
16:17:26 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Notes Jason was asking for dimension specific definitions
16:17:52 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Might we want to abstract this up earlier in the doc? So it shows up once and not multiple times in each dimension?
16:18:21 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Original goal was that this model would work from a single person shop to a multinational
16:18:32 <janina> Sheri_B-H:
16:18:38 <janina> We need to stay vague for that reason
16:18:45 <janina> Mark_Miller:
16:18:46 <janina> Agree
16:18:55 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Looking to make a proposal ...
16:21:15 <Sheri_B-H> Section 1.1 About
16:21:24 <janina> jefMuch in the About that won't be familiar -- perhaps a one line
16:21:31 <Sheri_B-H> Sheri_B-H: keep it vague, don't make it dimension specific
16:21:34 <janina> jefAgree we don't want to be dimension specific
16:21:54 <Sheri_B-H> jkline: has some language in his book he can donate
16:21:59 <janina> s/jefAgree/Jeff: Agree/
16:22:16 <janina> present+ Jeff
16:22:20 <Sheri_B-H> q+
16:22:28 <janina> ack je
16:22:33 <janina> ack sh
16:23:00 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Also comes down to org type: corporation departments also will have differences
16:23:22 <Sheri_B-H> Fazio: goal definition best left to the people doing the assessment
16:23:25 <janina> Sheri_B-H: Ex: Someone could use our model and create say "Health" maturity model--but that's not us
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16:27:36 <Neha> scribe+
16:28:16 <Fazio> Sheri and Jeff will write up an explanation
16:28:23 <Neha> zakim, next item
16:28:23 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Neha
16:28:34 <Neha> q?
16:28:41 <Neha> ack jkline
16:28:45 <Neha> zakim, next item
16:28:45 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Github Issue #228 Determine if the proof points in the MM document and the assessment tool should be synced -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:28:45 <gb> /issues/228 -> #228
16:29:03 <Neha> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/228
16:29:03 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/228 -> Issue 228 Determine if the proof points in the MM document and the assessment tool should be synced (by jeffkline)
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16:35:43 <Neha> rrsagent, make minutes
16:35:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/29-maturity-minutes.html Neha
16:36:31 <Neha> CharlesL: Need to be sure if correct version of the excel sheet is being referred
16:37:48 <Neha> CharlesL: One more column can be added with action items
16:38:41 <Neha> Fazio: I think we are overthinking about proof points as they are just examples
16:39:19 <Neha> jkline: I think proof points should be matched
16:41:16 <Neha> Mark_Miller: Third column can be of determination saying what needs to be done
16:45:56 <Neha> 3.3 Support being edited on shared screen
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