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14:59:22 <kaz> meeting: WoT and NGSI-LD
14:59:27 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
15:00:44 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
15:01:09 <kaz> present+ Franck_LE_GALL
15:01:39 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD#January_20%2C_2025
15:01:43 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
15:03:45 <kaz> present+ Juanjo_Hierro
15:05:04 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2025/12/13-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html
15:05:06 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2025/01/13-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html Jan-13
15:05:27 <kaz> s|https://www.w3.org/2025/12/13-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html|topic: Minutes|
15:05:56 <kaz> present+ Ken_Zangelin
15:07:01 <kaz> present+ Ali_Benfattoumu
15:07:03 <kaz> q+
15:07:12 <kaz> q-
15:07:45 <kaz> present+ Martin_Bauer
15:07:46 <McCool> mm: says something
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15:08:01 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:08:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:08:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
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15:08:48 <kaz> present+ Frederic_LE
15:08:57 <kaz> chair: McCool
15:09:07 <kaz> scribenick: Franck
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15:10:26 <Franck> Revised previous minutes. No objections.
15:12:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:12:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:12:43 <kaz> topic: Activities
15:12:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/blob/main/resources.md GitHub page - resources.md
15:15:42 <kaz> q+
15:16:03 <Franck> Unsure who and why Synchronicity report was brought in.
15:16:36 <kaz> q-
15:17:00 <kaz> s/Unsure/Juanjo: Unsure/
15:17:04 <Franck> jh: this report may not be relevant
15:17:37 <kaz> i/this/kaz: that was mentioned by Charith privately during the liaison call last week./
15:18:01 <kaz> i|Unsure|-> https://oascities.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/SynchroniCity_D2.10.pdf SynchroniCity Project|
15:18:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:18:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:18:26 <kaz> s|mm: says something||
15:18:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:18:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:18:37 <kaz> i|that was|scribenick: kaz|
15:18:42 <Franck> FLG : quite old project. More recent documents exists
15:18:45 <kaz> i|this report|scribenick: Franck|
15:18:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:18:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:19:28 <kaz> https://www.fiware.org/about-us/smart-cities/fiware4cities-book/
15:19:49 <kaz> i|https|mm: any newer resource around Smart Cities?|
15:19:56 <kaz> i|any|scribenick: kaz|
15:20:04 <kaz> scribenick: Franck
15:20:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:20:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:20:36 <Martin> Martin has joined #wot-ngsi-ld
15:20:50 <kaz> s|https://www.fiware.org/about-us/smart-cities/fiware4cities-book/|-> https://www.fiware.org/about-us/smart-cities/fiware4cities-book/ FIWARE4CITIES Book|
15:20:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:20:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:21:44 <kaz> FLG: (link for the "FIWARE4CITIES Book" above)
15:22:50 <kaz> https://www.fiware.org/wp-content/uploads/FIWAREBooklet_FIWARE4CITIES.pdf
15:23:15 <Franck> Next is use case. No PR
15:23:27 <kaz> s|https://www.fiware.org/wp-content/uploads/FIWAREBooklet_FIWARE4CITIES.pdf|-> https://www.fiware.org/wp-content/uploads/FIWAREBooklet_FIWARE4CITIES.pdf Link for the PDF|
15:23:57 <kaz> s/Next/mm: Next/
15:24:00 <kaz> s/PR/PR yet./
15:24:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:24:39 <kaz> i|link for|scribenick: kaz|
15:24:48 <kaz> i|Next is|scribenick: Franck|
15:24:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:24:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:26:42 <kaz> i|Next|topic: Use Cases|
15:27:05 <kaz> i|Next|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/blob/main/examples/README.md examples/README.md|
15:27:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:27:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:27:52 <Franck> ISG CIM team to look at mapping of NGSI-LD Primer to WoT concepts
15:28:26 <kaz> i|ISG|mm: need to work on use cases|
15:28:38 <kaz> i|ISG|Martin: ISG|
15:28:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:28:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:29:06 <kaz> s/Martin: ISG//
15:29:17 <kaz> s/ISG CIM/Marting: ISG CIM/
15:29:30 <kaz> i|need to|scribenick: kaz|
15:29:47 <kaz> i|ISG CIM team|scribenick: Franck|
15:29:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:29:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:29:57 <Franck> New WoT process to progress use case descriptions / Capturing requirements
15:30:09 <kaz> s/New/mm: New/
15:30:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:30:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:31:15 <Franck> That new requirement collection process must be used to get updates in the spec
15:33:24 <kaz> s/That/... That/
15:33:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:33:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:34:15 <kaz> s/Marting:/Martin:/
15:34:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:34:25 <Franck> Go to the template which contains instructions (https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/new?template=use-case-template.yml)
15:34:51 <kaz> s/Go to/... Go to/
15:34:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:35:18 <kaz> q+
15:36:15 <kaz> qq+ Juanjo
15:38:07 <kaz> mm: (will also ask Ege Korkan from Siemens on WoT CG's use case ideas.)
15:38:23 <kaz> i|will also|scribenick: kaz|
15:38:28 <kaz> scribenick: Franck
15:38:58 <Franck> JH: our situation  not comparable to OPC-UA approach. Idea here is to be able to access Things described through  WoT descriptions over the NGSI-LD API
15:39:55 <Franck> kaz: to clarify if we would like to the ISG CIM team to use the WoT template or not.
15:40:11 <kaz> s/if/whether/
15:40:27 <kaz> s/to clarify/just to make sure, we need to clarify/
15:40:36 <kaz> q- j
15:40:39 <kaz> q- k
15:40:51 <kaz> q+ Juanjo
15:41:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:41:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:42:05 <kaz> s|to clarwhethery if|just to make sure, we need to clarify whether|
15:42:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:42:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:42:44 <kaz> mm: at the moment, the WoT Use Cases template is for the WoT side
15:43:14 <kaz> i|at the|scribenick: kaz|
15:43:18 <kaz> scribenick: Franck
15:44:02 <kaz> q+
15:44:06 <kaz> q- Juan
15:44:35 <kaz> q-
15:45:25 <kaz> topic: Logistics
15:46:01 <Franck> ISG CIM Plenary next week. Franck & MArtin not available
15:46:24 <kaz> s/MArtin/Martin/
15:46:33 <kaz> s/ISG/mm: ISG/
15:46:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:46:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:47:04 <Franck> nect meeting on Feb. 3rd
15:47:12 <Franck> topic: deliverables
15:47:43 <kaz> s/nect/... So the next/
15:48:03 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/blob/main/proposals/liaison.md proposals/liaison.md - Liaison Charter
15:48:12 <kaz> s/deliverables/Deliverables/
15:48:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:48:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
15:49:19 <Franck> mmc : add to scope : collaborative work on use
15:49:58 <Franck> mmc: need to prioritize use cases / documents
15:50:54 <Franck> mmc: The 2 already  listed documents correspond to north/south bond interface discussion
15:52:27 <kaz> q+
15:53:31 <Franck> mmc: suggest to delete initial scope items as well as listed deliverables to first focus on use cases exploration.
15:53:59 <kaz> q-
15:55:08 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/pull/3
15:55:49 <kaz> kaz: we've been holding kind of long discussion about those sections, so removing them would be a bit "mottainai". I'd suggest keep those sections with a title of "Possible", "Expected" or "May work on" :)
15:55:59 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:56:09 <kaz> i/we've been/scribenick: kaz/
15:56:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:56:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/20-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html kaz
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