12:55:57 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:56:01 logging to https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-irc 12:56:01 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 12:56:59 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#8_January_2025 12:57:09 rrsagent, make log public 12:57:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:57:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:58:26 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Josh_Thomas 13:01:40 present+ Michael_Koster, Ege_Korkan 13:02:15 mjk has joined #wot 13:03:26 sebastian has joined #wot 13:03:55 McCool has joined #wot 13:03:55 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch 13:04:01 chair: McCool, Sebastian, Koster 13:04:06 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:04:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:04:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:05:43 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:06:23 Charith has joined #wot 13:06:26 present+ Charith_Perera 13:06:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:06:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:07:35 scribenick: mjk 13:07:59 topic: Pending IE requests 13:08:28 mm: we need to document the process for IEs 13:08:52 ... Koster will provide a draft policy 13:09:14 topic: quick items 13:09:36 ege: we are discussing rules for the binding registry 13:10:01 i/we are/subtopic: Binding Registry/ 13:10:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:10:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:10:16 s/quick items/Quick Items/ 13:10:30 ... for example, when linking a document for a binding, is the document freely available? 13:10:48 q+ 13:11:04 ... beyond that, what are the legal constraints for using the binding? 13:11:12 q+ 13:11:38 McCool has joined #wot 13:11:45 q- 13:11:47 q+ 13:11:48 ... should we require that the binding content be available for use? 13:12:17 mm: we should have a written rule for this that we can discuss 13:12:23 q+ 13:12:27 ... is there a github issue? 13:12:43 ege: it's part of a PR currently 13:13:57 seb: We should create our own registry with a defined policy for a starting point, keep it siimple, and modify over time 13:14:21 mm: let's discuss the details at another time, create an issue for now 13:14:27 ack m 13:14:30 ack s 13:14:48 kaz: agree with MM 13:15:29 ... we should decide which part of the registry rule needs to be discussed in the whole group 13:16:38 mm: we should let the TD task force organize the issue and discussion 13:16:56 s/whole group/whole group, and then we can clarify when to discuss it during the main call/ 13:17:02 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:17:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:17:29 mm: let's continue the minutes review now 13:17:48 ... are there any other pressing items to discuss? 13:18:17 (none) 13:18:19 topic: Minutes 13:18:22 ... reviewing meeting from the December 11 meeting 13:18:37 i|reviewing|subtopic: Dec 11| 13:18:43 i|reviewing|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html Dec-11| 13:18:44 s/reviewing meeting/reviewing minutes 13:18:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:18:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:19:23 ... next NGSI-LD meeting is Monday January 13th 13:20:04 mm: any objections to publish the minutes? 13:20:22 (none; minutes approved) 13:20:23 ... no objections, minutes from December 11 are approved 13:20:27 s/(none; minutes approved)// 13:20:44 subtopic: F2F minutes 13:20:47 subtopic: review minutes from face to face meeting 13:20:57 s/subtopic: F2F minutes// 13:21:03 mm: there are some gaps we need to review 13:22:05 mm: I emailed people so they could review the minutes off line 13:22:44 ... (scanning through the minutes) 13:23:33 https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/PRESENTATIONS/2024-11-wot-week/Plugfest-Outcomes/Plugfest-Outcome-McCool.pdf 13:24:08 ... there seem to be broken links due to folder names being changed 13:24:16 q? 13:24:21 q- 13:24:48 ... look for "@@@" in the files for gaps 13:25:51 q+ 13:26:03 mm: we could defer this review until next week to make some more corrections 13:26:08 kaz: agree 13:28:14 topic: schedule and cancellations 13:28:35 ... Ege unavailable the week of January 20th 13:29:00 dezell has joined #wot 13:29:11 present+ David_Ezell 13:29:17 apologies for being late 13:29:23 seb: there is a break in Germany the first week in March (3rd to 7th) 13:30:08 mm: what about US spring break? 13:30:20 mjk: there is no national 13:30:21 action: kaz to check the links within the F2F minutes 13:30:28 ly recognized time 13:31:01 q+ 13:31:08 mm: (scanning for upcoming holidays) 13:31:27 kaz: Will not be available February 26th 13:31:52 mm: February 17th is a holiday in US and Canada 13:33:09 mm: nothing in the short term 13:33:35 q+ 13:33:52 mm: back to the agenda, does anyone have any discussion items 13:34:00 q- 13:34:31 subtopic: CG schedule 13:34:33 s/items/items? 13:34:56 mm: we will clear out the agenda items for the CG 13:35:08 subtopic: Smart City IG 13:35:13 kaz: no updates 13:35:39 subtopic: policies 13:35:51 i|CG schedule|(Kaz suggests we quickly check the Meetups information and then talk about possible policy for IE handling.)| 13:36:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:04 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:36:11 mm: there are 2 policies, and we could look at the inclusiveness issue 13:36:29 s/no updates/2nd shot for the Doodle poll to decide the monthly call slot to be distributed./ 13:36:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:37:16 subtopic: inclusiveness of the registered protocol bindings 13:37:16 q+ 13:37:59 q- 13:38:21 kaz: the first person to talk with at W3C is Philippe Gregory 13:38:36 ... regarding legal matters 13:39:13 mm: would like to discuss process and not specific policy 13:39:33 s/Gregory/Le Hegaret/ 13:39:51 s/legal matters/policy matters/ 13:40:08 subtopic: IE policy 13:40:14 s/subtopic: policies/topic: Policies/ 13:40:20 mm: we currently have a draft from Ege 13:40:26 i/there are/subtopic: Registry policy/ 13:40:29 ... no PR yet 13:40:50 mm: the process is supposed to start with a nomination from a chair 13:41:15 ... typically there is a suggestion to the chairs or a self-suggestion from a candidate 13:41:19 i|we curr|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1171 wot Issue 1171 - [Policy Proposal] Invite Expert Selection Procedure| 13:41:23 q? 13:41:24 q? 13:41:50 mm: is there an official W3C document for this? 13:41:57 -> https://www.w3.org/invited-experts/ Invited Experts page 13:43:30 i|the first|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/issues/393 wot-binding-templates Issue 393 - Registry Inclusiveness| 13:43:33 mm: basically we need the nominee to demonstrate their ability and willingness to contribute 13:43:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:43:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:43:47 ... we have asked for a presentation 13:44:04 ... expect meeting attendance and Github contribution 13:44:21 s/no national/no nationally recognized time/ 13:44:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:44:31 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:44:50 q+ 13:45:23 charith: it should be a relatively short presentation and there should be a template to help set expectation 13:45:43 q- 13:46:05 kaz: agree, also clearly define the expected contribution 13:46:58 mm: we need someone to create a template based on an outline for the presentation 13:47:01 s/inclusiveness of the registered protocol bindings// 13:47:04 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:47:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:47:34 ... background, expertise, prior experience with standards 13:47:40 q+ 13:48:58 mm: there could be an initial approval step by the chairs 13:50:35 kaz: we usually expect members to pay membership fees, and IE status is for when payment isn't possible for some reason 13:50:56 mm: we don't need a full CV, but a one page summary could be good 13:52:14 kaz: we need to be able to determine the contribution from the presentation 13:52:34 mm: we'll have a written policy to refer to 13:53:10 mm: we can close the meeting now, are there any other topics? 13:53:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:53:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:53:48 ... is there a profile call today? It is on the calendar, so we expect to have a meeting 13:54:03 ... if there is no meeting, we need to update the calendar 13:54:10 i|we can close|topic: AOB| 13:54:30 q+ 13:55:38 q- 13:56:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:56:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:56:23 kaz: we should send a notice about the time slot 13:56:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:56:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:56:42 mm: we probably won't need a testing call for a while 13:56:55 mm: no business, meeting adjourned 13:57:25 [ main call adjourned; Kaz waits for Luca to make sure ] 13:57:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:57:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2025/01/08-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:46:34 TallTed has joined #wot 14:58:13 denkeni has joined #wot 15:12:44 zkis has joined #wot 16:04:22 bigbluehat has joined #wot 16:10:29 Zakim has left #wot