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15:57:14 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Meeting: PEWG
15:57:18 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
15:57:22 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/66591f6b-6694-4f90-b23d-bf8f1b9dda8a/20241218T110000/
15:57:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
15:57:34 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ScribeNick: Patrick_H_Lauke
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16:01:48 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ smaug
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16:04:31 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Limit the precision of floating point event fields https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/517
16:04:56 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/533
16:05:42 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: did a quick PR adding a new part to security and privacy section of the spec. If people could have a look over now to see if it makes sense
16:08:38 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: chose to add to the privacy/security bit, rather than straight after IDL, as otherwise we'd have to cross-reference
16:34:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [group worked on refining wording of the bullet points]
16:34:39 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: are we all happy with merging this (to the Level 3 branch)?
16:34:45 <Patrick_H_Lauke> [group approved the merge
16:35:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: thank you all. this is now merged in to Level 3 branch, and i'll cherry-pick it into main branch (level 4) later
16:35:33 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Action items from previous meeting
16:35:42 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://www.w3.org/2024/12/04-pointerevents-minutes.html#ActionSummary
16:35:53 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: first one we've now just done
16:36:04 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: then we had "Rob to reflect back discussion to the issue #516"
16:36:47 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: not sure the update/reflection there happened on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/516 ...
16:37:05 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: Rob to follow up on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/516
16:37:37 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: next we had "Olli to follow up about #509"
16:38:18 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: Masayuki added a new comment to https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/509 - interesting extra case, worth investigating further
16:38:52 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: leave open for further investigation then?
16:39:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: yes, i think this needs some more test - especially in case of cross-origin iframe
16:39:28 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: this is particularly tricky in all cases ... down to timing ...
16:39:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: it happens earlier, different task. it may just be possible that we just don't dispatch pointermove
16:40:09 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: any event that comes after pointerrawupdate should be treated as a separate event...
16:40:44 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: pointermove is based on pointerrawupdate though
16:40:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: if we treated them as separate, would it make things different?
16:41:27 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: say if you remove iframe in pointerrawupdate, i guess no pointermove would fire. except in same origin case (?)
16:41:40 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: this is very much an edge case....
16:41:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: should this block v3?
16:42:16 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Olli: i don't think so
16:42:31 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: agree. this sounds VERY deep in the weeds. suggest we look at this further in Level 4
16:42:49 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: move issue 509 to future/v4, unblocking v3
16:43:25 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: "continue investigation on #529"
16:43:56 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Mustaq: I sent a pull request. Rob was going to review but is currently out.
16:44:13 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/532
16:45:00 <Patrick_H_Lauke> ACTION: review the PR for our next meeting in 2025
16:45:42 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: last one was no immediate pressure "review #516 further, but no immediate pressure to get this in for v3"
16:45:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/516
16:46:47 <Patrick_H_Lauke> TOPIC: Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 #445 https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/445
16:47:07 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: looking good, only one left https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+
16:48:50 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: thank you for all the hard work this year. next meeting will be 15 Janunary 2025 (!)
16:49:57 <Patrick_H_Lauke> Patrick: I will follow up on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/517 to make sure our addition to privacy/security is deemed appropriate
16:50:06 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
16:50:13 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:50:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
16:54:05 <Patrick_H_Lauke> rrsagent, bye
16:54:05 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
16:54:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Rob to follow up on https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/516 [1]
16:54:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-pointerevents-irc#T16-37-05
16:54:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: move issue 509 to future/v4, unblocking v3 [2]
16:54:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-pointerevents-irc#T16-42-49
16:54:05 <RRSAgent> ACTION: review the PR for our next meeting in 2025 [3]
16:54:05 <RRSAgent>   recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-pointerevents-irc#T16-45-00