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15:52:00 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model Task Force
15:52:26 <Fazio> chair: David Fazio
15:52:33 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
15:52:33 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #148 Add information fields for metadata for each dimension
15:52:33 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #172 Proof Point Discrepancies between Specification and Template
15:52:33 <Fazio> Agenda+ Github Issue #193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request)
15:52:34 <gb> /issues/172 -> #172
15:52:34 <gb> /issues/193 -> #193
15:52:34 <gb> /issues/148 -> #148
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16:13:41 <Mark_Miller> Zakem,next item
16:13:52 <Mark_Miller> Zakem, next item
16:13:54 <Fazio> zakim, next item
16:13:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:14:12 <CharlesL> q+
16:14:20 <Fazio> ack jan
16:14:21 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/apa-wg-charter.html
16:18:00 <Fazio> Asking for task force feedback for current charter by end January
16:19:00 <Fazio> What are our publishing goals by 2027
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16:20:20 <jkline> present
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16:21:23 <Mark_Miller> janina: APA is rechartering – all member management work reviewed. Like to be in charter to publish early and often.
16:21:23 <Mark_Miller> RFC 2119 – formal meaning & requirements.
16:21:23 <Mark_Miller> Should point out in non-normative section what we’re doing and how it fits in
16:21:23 <Mark_Miller> End of January – Feedback
16:21:24 <Mark_Miller> End of March – Expect to publish in July
16:21:24 <Mark_Miller> Current Charter expires July 31st.
16:21:44 <CharlesL> ack me
16:21:56 <Fazio> ack CharlesL
16:23:03 <Mark_Miller> CharlesL: Outstanding pull request for new Excel spreadsheet.
16:23:03 <Mark_Miller> Outstanding error – don’t know why. May need Roy
16:23:03 <Mark_Miller> Updates to specification won’t appear if error.
16:25:14 <Mark_Miller> CharlesL: Thank you, Jeff, for instruction on implementing new model
16:25:14 <Mark_Miller> 0, not applicable, 1 launch gave keyboard users quick access.
16:25:14 <Mark_Miller> Calculations tied to renamed status levels. Names can be changed.
16:25:56 <Mark_Miller> Zakem, next item
16:26:08 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, next item
16:26:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Github Issue #148 Add information fields for metadata for each dimension -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:26:08 <gb> /issues/148 -> #148
16:26:35 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/148
16:26:36 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/148 -> Issue 148 Add information  fields for metadata for each dimension  (by jeffkline)
16:28:26 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, close this item
16:28:26 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
16:28:27 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:28:27 <Zakim> 3. Github Issue #172 Proof Point Discrepancies between Specification and Template [from Fazio]
16:28:27 <gb> /issues/172 -> #172
16:28:34 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, next item
16:28:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Github Issue #172 Proof Point Discrepancies between Specification and Template -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:28:54 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/172
16:28:55 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/172 -> Issue 172 Proof Point Discrepancies between Specification and Template (by clapierre)
16:30:42 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, close this item
16:30:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
16:30:43 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:30:43 <Zakim> 4. Github Issue #193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request) [from Fazio]
16:30:43 <gb> /issues/193 -> #193
16:30:53 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, next item
16:30:53 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Github Issue #193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request) -- taken up [from Fazio]
16:31:28 <Fazio> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/193
16:31:28 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/193 -> Issue 193 Apendix Roles need updating (feature request) (by newtonsgroove)
16:35:53 <Mark_Miller> Dr_Keith: Add and explanation to the roll in the use cases
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16:36:24 <jkline> queue+
16:36:49 <Fazio> New Use Case: 4.2.1 Use case one
16:36:49 <Fazio> A software company is responding to an RFP. They’ve been asked to demonstrate that they can retain the accuracy and timeliness of their VPATs and refresh them as needed.
16:36:49 <Fazio> Dimensions:
16:36:49 <Fazio> The critical dimensions are knowledge and Skills, ICT Dev Lifecycle, and Personnel.
16:36:51 <Fazio> Roles that could be involved in use case one:
16:36:51 <Fazio> •	Accessibility consultants, advisors, influencers, disability specialists, outside contractors  and industry organizations, chief accessibility/diversity and inclusion officers
16:36:51 <Fazio> •	Designers, developers, product managers, project managers, IT, QA, researchers/User Experience
16:36:52 <Fazio> •	Instructor/trainer, teaching resource developer
16:36:52 <Fazio> •	Content provider/producer
16:36:52 <Fazio> •	Lawyer, organizational policy-maker, standards maintainer
16:36:53 <Fazio> •	Employees with disabilities
16:37:12 <Mark_Miller> Dr_Kieth: Helpful to have it in each use case with each common term for the role.
16:38:19 <Mark_Miller> NehaJ: If you add every use case it will be redundant.
16:39:07 <stacey> q+
16:39:19 <Mark_Miller> Dr_Kieth: Explanation for roles may have different explanation per use case based on how it is applied to model.
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16:40:09 <Fazio> ack jkline
16:40:28 <stacey> we can remove me from the queue - all good
16:41:04 <Dr_Keith> I got kicked out of IRC - can you provide the link again to the use cases from Stacy and Sherri?
16:41:37 <Fazio> ack stacey
16:41:42 <Mark_Miller> JeffK: What Dr Keith has done is valuable.
16:41:42 <Mark_Miller> Concerned that we have an exhaustive list.
16:41:42 <Mark_Miller> Add contact to each skill we’ll have a big doc.
16:41:42 <Mark_Miller> Reduce the number of use case (3)
16:41:43 <Mark_Miller> Look at the key role involved in skill area and add explanation.
16:41:43 <Mark_Miller> List other skills.
16:42:04 <Dr_Keith> q+
16:43:04 <Mark_Miller> stacey: Good to add examples however two issues:
16:43:04 <Mark_Miller> 1.	Too prescriptive
16:43:04 <Mark_Miller> 2.	Things could get too long (maybe fewer use cases)
16:43:39 <Mark_Miller> Q+
16:45:24 <Mark_Miller> Dr_Keith: Limiting use cases & provide samples
16:45:24 <Mark_Miller> Leave all but only examples for some
16:45:24 <Mark_Miller> Breaking this off into a help document
16:46:22 <Fazio> Mark: could define roles in one section, add additional context in case studies, separating both
16:48:37 <Dr_Keith> q+
16:50:00 <Mark_Miller> JeffK: Don’t know how much detail we need to go into. Should know what the skill sets and roles are in org.
16:50:56 <Mark_Miller> Fazio: Work with mom & pop business, who don’t understand all roles and need the explanation.
16:50:56 <Mark_Miller> However, it would make the doc long.
16:53:06 <Mark_Miller> JeffK: While we don’t have all the definitions of roles, we do have prove points. They should be able to figure out who should work on the proof points.
16:56:05 <Mark_Miller> Fazio: Dr Keith to work on an example
16:57:23 <NehaJ> rrsagent, make minutes
16:57:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-maturity-minutes.html NehaJ
16:57:48 <Mark_Miller> Zakim, end meeting
16:57:48 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio, janina, jkline, CharlesL, Mark_Miller, NehaJ, stacey, JennE
16:57:50 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:57:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/18-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
16:57:57 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Mark_Miller; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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19:18:54 <RRSAgent> I see no action items