13:01:37 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:01:41 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-irc 13:01:44 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 13:01:47 chair: McCool 13:02:05 dape has joined #wot 13:02:17 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Charith_Perera, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:02:58 rrsagent, make log public 13:03:02 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:03:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:03:10 present+ Daniel_Peintner 13:03:49 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#11_December_2024 13:04:09 regrets+ Sebastian 13:04:30 dezell has joined #wot 13:04:56 present+ David_Ezell 13:05:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:05:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:05:49 scribe: dape 13:06:38 TOPIC: Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:06:46 MMC: Stale IE requests 13:07:03 ... we want to clear out the old requests 13:07:15 ... we don't have a policy 13:07:20 ... we need to write one 13:07:27 ... created issue for that 13:07:35 ... Plan 13:07:41 ... cancel requests 13:08:07 ... remind the procedure for any complaints 13:08:20 regrets+ Ege 13:08:33 ... giving a presentation is important 13:08:39 present+ Michael_Koster 13:08:48 q+ 13:09:11 Kaz: We have a PR, but not merged yet? 13:09:34 MMC: Yes, issue #1171 in wot repo 13:09:37 s/a PR/something/ 13:09:51 ... someone needs to create PR 13:09:51 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1171 Issue 1171 - [Policy Proposal] Invite Expert Selection Procedure 13:10:02 MK: I can create PR 13:10:32 TOPIC: Minutes 13:10:54 MMC: Let's start with the last meeting 13:11:04 i|Let's|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html Nov-20| 13:11:41 q+ 13:12:00 q- 13:12:05 MMC: We can invite guests ... as we did with Martin_Schlaffer 13:12:13 ack kaz 13:13:16 MMC: any objections publishing minutes? 13:13:28 ... -> none -> minutes are approved 13:13:41 MMC: F2F meetings are very long 13:13:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:13:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:13:55 ... we asked the task forces to do that 13:14:14 MMC: I think we might give people more time 13:14:22 Kaz: Agree 13:14:31 MMC: Aim for Jan 8 13:14:49 q+ 13:15:14 Kaz: We can ask task force leaders to review minutes next week 13:15:31 ... waiting till January might be problematic 13:16:21 MMC: I can't make next week's meeting 13:16:33 Kaz: Okay 13:17:03 [finalize the F2F minutes on Jan 8] 13:17:05 TOPIC: Quick Items and Notices 13:17:09 MMC: None 13:17:21 TOPIC: Meetups 13:17:38 SUBTOPIC: WoT CG 13:17:48 MMC: I think Luca mentioned there should be a video link 13:18:07 ... we don't have one yet 13:18:31 MMC: Is there another CG meeting this year? 13:18:35 ... I don't think so 13:18:47 SUBTOPIC: WoT JP CG 13:18:55 TM: We plan new event 13:18:59 ... no details yet 13:19:05 q+ 13:19:05 ... will be next year 13:19:16 SUBTOPIC: Smart Cities IG 13:19:31 Kaz: Distributed updated Doodle poll 13:19:37 ... next year January 13:19:49 MMC: I can attend in January 13:20:06 ... overlap in requirements gathering 13:20:17 SUBTOPIC: Cloud-Edge-Client Coordination CG 13:20:23 MMC: Charter was approved 13:20:31 ... things are getting organized 13:20:45 ... we are cleaning up Web presence 13:20:52 s/Distributed updated Doodle poll/Distributed a doodle to decide the slot for the IG call, but got just a few responses. also some of the key participants can't make the meeting this year. so will distribute an updated Doodle poll./ 13:20:58 ... plan to have regular monthly event 13:21:00 s/next year/for next year/ 13:21:10 ... let us know your ideas 13:21:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:21:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:21:21 MMC: I am not the chair 13:21:26 q? 13:21:27 ... I am just involved 13:21:28 q- 13:22:05 TOPIC: Liaisons 13:22:21 MMC: we have lots of liaison 13:22:46 dezell has joined #wot 13:22:51 ... ECHONET and Connexxus participated in PlugFest 13:22:57 s/of liaison/of liaisons/ 13:23:13 s/ECHO/subtopic: ECHONET and Conexxus/ 13:23:19 MMC: w.r.t ETSI I provided the wrong dates 13:23:19 s/Connexxus/Conexxus/ 13:23:36 ... It was my fault, not their fault 13:23:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:23:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:23:53 i/ETSI/subtopic: ETSI/ 13:24:13 s/subtopic: ECHONET and Conexxus/ECHO/ 13:24:23 i|participated in|subtopic: ECHONET and Conexxus| 13:24:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:24:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:24:46 MMC: During the F2F Erich mentioned a tool converting data model 13:25:06 q+ 13:25:37 ... NGSI issue 13:25:49 ... the play to use thing models 13:25:54 ... we need to think about that 13:26:09 Kaz: We can revisit this topic in January 13:26:17 ... and invite Erich to the call 13:26:36 MMC: It relates to smart city 13:26:44 s/and invite/we can invite/ 13:26:52 s/to the call/to the call if we want/ 13:27:00 ... there are interesting ideas and data models 13:27:17 MMC: Here is the wiki https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD 13:27:25 q- 13:27:38 ... please propose topics 13:27:48 s|During|-> https://smartdatamodels.org Smart Data Models| 13:27:56 q+ 13:28:04 SUBTOPIC: Other liaisons 13:28:19 MMC: I think we have page for other liaisons 13:28:48 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/12/09-wot-ngsi-ld-minutes.html NGSI-LD liaison meeting 13:28:58 Kaz: We can summarize meeting Dec 9 13:29:17 MMC: I partly did before 13:29:25 s/SUBTOPIC: Other liaisons// 13:30:01 s/MMC: I think we have page for other liaisons// 13:30:07 MMC: we had a proposal for NGSI-LD 13:30:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:30:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:30:36 ... moved the content to new repo w3c/wot-ngsi-ld 13:31:54 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1222 wot PR 1222 - Update ngsi-ld.md => closed 13:32:01 MMC: In NGSI-LD meeting, we talked about organizational things 13:32:11 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/pull/1 wot-ngsi-ld PR 1 - Create liaison.md => newly created 13:32:18 JKRhb has joined #wot 13:32:30 TOPIC: Schedule 13:32:38 MMC: We have holiday coming up 13:32:44 s/holiday/holidays 13:32:47 s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/pull/1 wot-ngsi-ld PR 1 - Create liaison.md => newly created|| 13:33:00 MMC: next week I cannot join, but Sebastian will chair 13:33:05 i|In NGSI|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld/pull/1 wot-ngsi-ld PR 1 - Create liaison.md => newly created| 13:33:07 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:33:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:33:15 JKRhb has joined #wot 13:33:20 ... WoT Use Case, Cancelled Dec 18 13:33:27 ... as well as Dec 25 and Jan 1 13:33:33 ... All Calls Cancelled Dec 23-Jan 3 13:34:02 i|We have|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays| 13:34:06 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:34:07 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:35:10 ... NGSI-LD call cancelled on Jan 6 (holiday in Germany), will do the call on Jan 13 13:35:27 present+ Jan_Romann 13:35:29 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:30 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:35:55 s/Jan 13/Jan 13 (and weekly calls for a while)/ 13:35:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:36:04 MMC: please update calendar entries 13:36:49 TOPIC: Policies 13:36:55 --> https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:37:02 MK: No new PR 13:37:16 MMC: We should try to get volunteers 13:37:35 ... or a policy day 13:38:05 s|--> https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy Policy Issues and PRs| 13:38:07 MK: Would like to start with IE policy 13:38:09 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:38:11 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:38:25 MMC: great 13:38:30 TOPIC: Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:38:31 Security 13:38:31 Discovery 13:38:31 Architecture 13:38:32 Testing 13:38:32 Any nominations? 13:38:32 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:38:33 Work on Discovery deferred until TD 2.0 is ready 13:38:33 Work on Architecture will require some refactoring 13:38:33 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:38:34 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:38:34 Discussion of concrete requirements to take place in each TF, starting with TD 13:38:34 Use Case TF will focus on reviewing submissions and incorporating them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:38:35 Other Topics 13:38:35 /Liaisons 13:38:35 /Collaborations 13:38:36 /Actions 13:38:36 TF Reports 13:38:36 Active 13:38:37 Scripting 13:38:37 Profile 13:38:37 Marketing 13:38:38 Use Cases 13:38:38 PlugFest/Testing 13:38:38 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:38:39 Suspended 13:38:39 Security 13:38:39 Discovery 13:38:40 Architecture 13:38:40 AOB? 13:38:40 20 November 2024 13:38:41 Reminder: 13:38:41 Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:38:41 Chair: McCool 13:38:42 Regrets: Sebastian, David Ezell 13:38:42 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:38:42 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:38:43 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:38:43 Membership classes and fees 13:38:43 New Members: none 13:38:44 New IE request: 13:38:44 pending 13:38:44 Minutes 13:38:45 November-13 13:38:45 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:38:46 New Policy proposal 13:38:46 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:38:46 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:38:47 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:38:47 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:38:47 Quick Items 13:38:48 Anyone have anything to bring up? 13:38:48 Notices (Informative) 13:38:48 Anyone have anything to announce? 13:38:49 Meetups (Information only) 13:38:49 WoT CG 13:38:49 14th of November: Web of Things for every thing. Christian Paul. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/27ccdd67-4ad6-476b-bdc2-b1b48da1995b/ 13:38:50 18th of November: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT . CALA Munich from LMU. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6373e85a-936c-4c9e-8db4-919a9fcc5635/ 13:38:50 3rd of December: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/04a42553-5164-4db2-a3fb-6de9b96bbc22/20241203T160000/ 13:38:50 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:38:51 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:38:51 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:38:51 WoT JP CG 13:38:52 No new plans currently. 13:38:52 Smart Cities IG 13:38:52 Collecting additional participants 13:38:53 Kaz will send a reminder to the WoT Members lists. 13:38:53 Please talk with your AC Rep. and join the IG by visiting the IG's join page (Member-only) 13:38:53 Monthly meeting planned 13:38:54 Doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:38:54 Cloud-Edge-Client Coordination CG 13:38:55 Launch in progress... 13:38:55 Proposed charter: https://github.com/w3c/web-networks/pull/22 13:38:55 Official proposal: https://www.w3.org/community/blog/2024/11/19/proposed-group-cloud-edge-client-coordination-community-group/ 13:38:56 Liaisons 13:38:56 ECHONET 13:38:56 Plan to join plugfest in November 13:38:57 Conexxus 13:38:57 https://www.conexxus.org/ 13:38:57 Some members also plan to join plugfest in November 13:38:58 OPC Foundation 13:38:58 Last meeting was November 19 at 7am Pacific 13:38:58 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:38:59 next meeting will be December 3 13:38:59 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:38:59 Last call: November 11 13:39:00 Next meeting will be during WoT week F2F; Nov 25 cancelled 13:39:00 Repo: https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld 13:39:00 Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD 13:39:01 IRC: https://irc.w3.org/?channels=wot-ngsi-ld 13:39:01 Every two weeks 13:39:01 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:39:02 Schedule 13:39:02 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:39:02 Cancellations 13:39:03 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:39:03 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:39:03 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:39:04 Publication Milestones calculator 13:39:04 Schedule 13:39:04 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) at least until F2F 13:39:05 F2F Planning 13:39:05 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:39:05 Location: Munich 13:39:06 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:39:07 Only a few places left... 13:39:07 Plugfest also looks like it will be the largest ever! 13:39:07 WoT CG and WoT JP CG invitations? 13:39:08 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:39:08 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:39:08 Policies 13:39:09 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:39:09 TF Leads 13:39:09 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:39:10 Security 13:39:10 Discovery 13:39:10 Architecture 13:39:11 Testing 13:39:11 Any nominations? 13:39:11 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:39:12 Work on Discovery deferred until TD 2.0 is ready 13:39:12 Work on Architecture will require some refactoring 13:39:12 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:39:13 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:39:13 Discussion of concrete requirements to take place in each TF, starting with TD 13:39:13 Use Case TF will focus on reviewing submissions and incorporating them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:39:14 Other Topics 13:39:14 /Liaisons 13:39:14 /Collaborations 13:39:15 /Actions 13:39:15 TF Reports 13:39:15 Active 13:39:16 Scripting 13:39:16 Profile 13:39:16 Marketing 13:39:17 Use Cases 13:39:17 PlugFest/Testing 13:39:17 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:39:18 Suspended 13:39:18 Security 13:39:18 Discovery 13:39:19 Architecture 13:39:19 AOB? 13:39:19 Plugfest Organization 13:39:20 Chair: Sebastian 13:39:20 Note: Will be open to invited non-members. 13:39:20 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:39:21 13 November 2024 13:39:21 Reminder: 13:39:21 Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. Ege will chair. 13:39:22 Chair: McCool 13:39:22 Regrets: Sebastian, David Ezell 13:39:22 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:39:23 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:39:23 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:39:23 Membership classes and fees 13:39:24 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:39:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html JKRhb 13:39:31 New Members: none 13:39:31 New IE request: 13:39:31 pending 13:39:31 Minutes 13:39:31 November-06 13:39:31 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:39:31 New Policy proposal 13:39:31 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:39:31 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:39:31 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:39:31 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:39:31 Quick Items 13:39:31 Anyone have anything to bring up? 13:39:31 Notices (Informative) 13:39:31 Anyone have anything to announce? 13:39:31 Meetups (Information only) 13:39:31 WoT CG 13:39:31 14th of November: Web of Things for every thing. Christian Paul. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/27ccdd67-4ad6-476b-bdc2-b1b48da1995b/ 13:39:31 18th of November: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT . CALA Munich from LMU. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6373e85a-936c-4c9e-8db4-919a9fcc5635/ 13:39:31 3rd of December: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/04a42553-5164-4db2-a3fb-6de9b96bbc22/20241203T160000/ 13:39:31 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:39:31 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:39:31 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:39:31 WoT JP CG 13:39:32 No new plans currently. 13:39:32 Smart Cities IG 13:39:32 Collecting additional participants 13:39:33 Kaz will send a reminder to the WoT Members lists. 13:39:33 Please talk with your AC Rep. and join the IG by visiting the IG's join page (Member-only) 13:39:33 Monthly meeting planned 13:39:34 Doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:39:34 Cloud-Edge-Client Coordination CG 13:39:34 Launch in progress... 13:39:35 Proposed charter: https://github.com/w3c/web-networks/pull/22 13:39:35 Liaisons 13:39:35 ECHONET 13:39:36 Plan to join plugfest in November 13:39:36 Conexxus 13:39:36 https://www.conexxus.org/ 13:39:37 i|TOPIC:|### from here ###| 13:39:37 Some members also plan to join plugfest in November 13:39:37 OPC Foundation 13:39:37 Last meeting was November 5 at 7am Pacific 13:39:38 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:39:38 next meeting will be November 19 (may cancel due to plugfest) 13:39:38 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:39:39 Last call: November 11 13:39:39 Next meeting 10am EST Monday November 25 (will probably defer due to WoT week) 13:39:39 Repo: https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld 13:39:40 Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD 13:39:40 IRC: https://irc.w3.org/?channels=wot-ngsi-ld 13:39:40 Every two weeks 13:39:41 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:39:41 Schedule 13:39:41 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:39:42 Cancellations 13:39:42 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:39:43 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:39:43 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:39:43 Publication Milestones calculator 13:39:44 Schedule 13:39:44 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) at least until F2F 13:39:44 F2F Planning 13:39:45 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:39:45 Location: Munich 13:39:45 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:39:46 Only a few places left... 13:39:46 Plugfest also looks like it will be the largest ever! 13:39:46 WoT CG and WoT JP CG invitations? 13:39:47 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:39:47 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:39:47 Policies 13:39:48 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:39:48 TF Leads 13:39:48 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:39:49 Security 13:39:49 Discovery 13:39:49 Architecture 13:39:50 Testing 13:39:50 Any nominations? 13:39:50 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:39:51 Work on Discovery deferred until TD 2.0 is ready 13:39:51 Work on Architecture will require some refactoring 13:39:51 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:39:52 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:39:52 Discussion of concrete requirements to take place in each TF, starting with TD 13:39:52 Use Case TF will focus on reviewing submissions and incorporating them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:39:53 Other Topics 13:39:53 /Liaisons 13:39:53 /Collaborations 13:39:54 /Actions 13:39:54 TF Reports 13:39:54 Active 13:39:54 Scripting 13:39:54 Profile 13:39:55 Marketing 13:39:55 Use Cases 13:39:55 PlugFest/Testing 13:39:56 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:39:56 Suspended 13:39:56 Security 13:39:57 Discovery 13:39:57 Architecture 13:39:57 AOB? 13:39:58 Plugfest Organization 13:39:58 Chair: Ege 13:39:58 Note: Will be open to invited non-members. 13:39:59 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:39:59 6 November 2024 13:39:59 Reminder: 13:40:00 Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:40:00 Chair: McCool 13:40:00 Regrets: 13:40:01 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:40:01 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:40:01 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:40:02 Membership classes and fees 13:40:02 New Members: none 13:40:02 New IE request: 13:40:03 McCool met with Charith Perera on Nov 4. 13:40:03 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability (Kaz will send a reminder) 13:40:03 Minutes 13:40:04 October-30 13:40:04 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:40:04 New Policy proposal 13:40:05 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:40:05 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:40:05 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:40:06 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:40:06 Quick Items 13:40:06 Anyone have anything to bring up? 13:40:07 Notices (Informative) 13:40:07 Anyone have anything to announce? 13:40:07 Meetups (Information only) 13:40:08 WoT CG 13:40:08 14th of November: Web of Things for every thing. Christian Paul. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/27ccdd67-4ad6-476b-bdc2-b1b48da1995b/ 13:40:08 18th of November: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT . CALA Munich from LMU. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6373e85a-936c-4c9e-8db4-919a9fcc5635/ 13:40:09 3rd of December: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/04a42553-5164-4db2-a3fb-6de9b96bbc22/20241203T160000/ 13:40:09 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:40:09 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:40:10 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:40:10 WoT JP CG 13:40:10 No new plans currently. 13:40:11 Smart Cities IG 13:40:11 Collecting additional participants 13:40:11 Kaz will send a reminder to the WoT Members lists. 13:40:12 Please talk with your AC Rep. and join the IG by visiting the IG's join page (Member-only) 13:40:12 Monthly meeting planned 13:40:12 Doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:40:13 Cloud-Edge-Client CG 13:40:13 Launch in progress... 13:40:13 Liaisons 13:40:14 ECHONET 13:40:14 Plan to join plugfest in November 13:40:14 Conexxus 13:40:15 https://www.conexxus.org/ 13:40:15 Some members also plan to join plugfest in November 13:40:15 OPC Foundation 13:40:16 Last meeting was November 5 at 7am Pacific 13:40:16 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:40:16 next meeting will be November 19 (may cancel due to plugfest) 13:40:18 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:40:18 Last call: October 28 13:40:18 Next meeting 10am EST Monday November 11 13:40:18 Repo: https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld 13:40:19 Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WoT-NGSI-LD 13:40:19 IRC: https://irc.w3.org/?channels=wot-ngsi-ld 13:40:19 Every two weeks 13:40:20 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:40:20 Schedule 13:40:20 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:40:21 Cancellations 13:40:21 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:40:21 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:40:22 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:40:22 Publication Milestones calculator 13:40:22 Schedule 13:40:23 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:40:23 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) at least until F2F 13:40:23 F2F Planning 13:40:23 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:40:24 Location: Munich 13:40:24 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:40:24 Only a few places left... 13:40:25 Plugfest also looks like it will be the largest ever! 13:40:25 WoT CG and WoT JP CG invitations? 13:40:25 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:40:26 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:40:26 Policies 13:40:26 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:40:27 TF Leads 13:40:27 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:40:27 Security 13:40:28 Discovery 13:40:28 Architecture 13:40:28 Testing 13:40:29 Any nominations? 13:40:29 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:40:29 Work on Discovery deferred until TD 2.0 is ready 13:40:30 Work on Architecture will require some refactoring 13:40:30 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:40:30 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:40:31 Discussion of concrete requirements to take place in each TF, starting with TD 13:40:31 Use Case TF will focus on reviewing submissions and incorporating them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:40:31 Other Topics 13:40:32 /Liaisons 13:40:32 /Collaborations 13:40:32 /Actions 13:40:33 TF Reports 13:40:33 Active 13:40:33 Scripting 13:40:35 Profile 13:40:35 Marketing 13:40:35 Use Cases 13:40:35 PlugFest/Testing 13:40:35 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:40:35 Suspended 13:40:36 Security 13:40:36 Discovery 13:40:36 Architecture 13:40:37 AOB? 13:40:37 Plugfest Organization 13:40:37 Chair: Sebastian 13:40:38 Note: Will be open to invited non-members. 13:40:38 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:40:38 30 October 2024 13:40:39 Reminder: 13:40:39 Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:40:39 Chair: McCool 13:40:40 Regrets: 13:40:40 Scribe: Koster 13:40:40 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:40:41 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:40:41 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:40:41 Membership classes and fees 13:40:42 New Members: none 13:40:42 New IE request: 13:40:42 McCool meeting with Charith Perera on Nov 4. 13:40:43 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability (Kaz will send a reminder) 13:40:43 Minutes 13:40:43 October-23 13:40:44 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:40:45 New Policy proposal 13:40:45 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:40:45 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:40:46 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:40:46 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:40:46 Quick Items 13:40:47 Anyone have anything to announce? 13:40:47 Notices (Informative) 13:40:47 Eclipse Thingweb was presented in the Eclipse Foundation's yearly event last week (Oct 22-24). https://www.ocxconf.org/event/778b82cc-6834-48a4-a58e-f883c5a7b8c9/websitePage:26bc9d91-446a-49e1-9f08-8fcc4680073e?session=b37c88ab-ef69-46ce-adf3-7180e9762e5b 13:40:48 Ege was there in person 13:40:48 Jan and Cristiano had a video/demo 13:40:48 Meetups (Information only) 13:40:49 WoT CG 13:40:49 Postponed: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:40:49 28th of October, 9AM EST, 2PM CEST: How Siemens Technology Streamlines Building Onboarding with the Web of Things. Ondrej Tomcik. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/351c4285-805d-460e-a865-fb58085bd49a/ 13:40:50 5th of November: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/881f7fe2-a545-4d7a-90c7-655d0f9cbd0e/20241105T160000/ 13:40:50 14th of November: WebThing Anything and Thing Debugging. Christian Jaller. Link coming soon. 13:40:50 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:40:51 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:40:51 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:40:51 WoT JP CG 13:40:52 No new plans currently. 13:40:52 Smart Cities IG 13:40:53 Monthly meeting planned 13:40:53 Doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:40:53 Cloud-Edge-Client CG 13:40:54 Launched 13:40:54 Liaisons 13:40:54 ECHONET 13:40:55 Plan to join plugfest in November 13:40:55 Conexxus 13:40:55 https://www.conexxus.org/ 13:40:56 Some members also plan to join plugfest in November 13:40:56 OPC Foundation 13:40:56 Last meeting was October 22 at 7am Pacific 13:40:57 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:40:57 next meeting will be November 5 13:40:57 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:40:58 Last call: October 28 13:40:58 Next meeting 10am EST Monday November 11 13:40:58 Repo to be set up: github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld 13:40:59 Also Wiki etc. for agendas - see PR in wot repo for liaison description w/ links to resources 13:40:59 After that every two weeks 13:40:59 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:41:00 Schedule 13:41:00 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:41:00 Cancellations 13:41:01 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:41:01 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:41:01 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:41:02 Publication Milestones calculator 13:41:02 Schedule 13:41:02 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) at least until F2F 13:41:03 F2F Planning 13:41:03 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:41:03 Location: Munich 13:41:04 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:41:04 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:41:04 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:41:05 Policies 13:41:06 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:41:06 TF Leads 13:41:06 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:41:07 Security - have candidate 13:41:07 Discovery 13:41:07 Architecture 13:41:08 Testing 13:41:08 Any nominations? 13:41:08 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:41:09 Work on Discovery deferred until TD 2.0 is ready 13:41:09 Work on Architecture will require some refactoring 13:41:09 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:41:10 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:41:10 Discussion of concrete requirements to take place in each TF, starting with TD 13:41:10 Use Case TF will focus on reviewing submissions and incorporating them into the Use Cases and Requirements document 13:41:11 Other Topics 13:41:11 /Liaisons 13:41:11 /Collaborations 13:41:12 /Actions 13:41:12 TF Reports 13:41:12 Active 13:41:13 Scripting 13:41:13 Profile 13:41:13 Marketing 13:41:14 Use Cases 13:41:14 PlugFest/Testing 13:41:14 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:41:15 Suspended 13:41:15 Security 13:41:15 Discovery 13:41:16 Architecture 13:41:16 AOB? 13:41:16 Plugfest Organization 13:41:17 Chair: Sebastian 13:41:17 Note: Will be open to invited non-members. 13:41:17 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:41:18 23 October 2024 13:41:18 Reminder: 13:41:18 Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:41:19 Normally the Profiles would use this slot, but will prioritize Plugfest preparation for now. 13:41:19 Chair: McCool 13:41:19 Regrets: 13:41:20 Scribe: Jan 13:41:21 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:41:21 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:41:21 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:41:22 Membership classes and fees 13:41:22 New Members: none 13:41:22 New IE request: 13:41:23 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability (Kaz will send a reminder) 13:41:23 Minutes 13:41:23 October-16 13:41:24 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:41:24 New Policy proposal 13:41:24 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:41:25 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:41:25 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:41:25 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:41:26 Quick Items 13:41:26 Notices (Informative) 13:41:26 Eclipse Thingweb to be presented in the Eclipse Foundation's yearly event this week (Oct 22-24). https://www.ocxconf.org/event/778b82cc-6834-48a4-a58e-f883c5a7b8c9/websitePage:26bc9d91-446a-49e1-9f08-8fcc4680073e?session=b37c88ab-ef69-46ce-adf3-7180e9762e5b 13:41:27 Ege will there in person 13:41:27 Jan and Cristiano will have a video/demo 13:41:27 Meetups (Information only) 13:41:28 WoT CG 13:41:28 Postponed: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:41:28 28th of October, 9AM EST, 2PM CEST: How Siemens Technology Streamlines Building Onboarding with the Web of Things. Ondrej Tomcik. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/351c4285-805d-460e-a865-fb58085bd49a/ 13:41:29 5th of November: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/881f7fe2-a545-4d7a-90c7-655d0f9cbd0e/20241105T160000/ 13:41:30 14th of November: WebThing Anything and Thing Debugging. Christian Jaller. Link coming soon. 13:41:30 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:41:30 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:41:31 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:41:31 WoT JP CG 13:41:31 No new plans currently. 13:41:32 Smart Cities IG 13:41:32 Monthly meeting planned 13:41:32 Doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:41:33 Cloud-Edge-Client CG 13:41:33 Charter launched 13:41:33 Liaisons 13:41:37 OPC Foundation 13:41:37 Last meeting was October 22 at 7am Pacific 13:41:37 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:41:37 next meeting will be November 5 13:41:37 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:41:37 Next meeting 10am EST Monday October 28 13:41:37 After that every two weeks 13:41:37 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:41:37 Note: Oct 14 meeting was cancelled due to a conflict with a CG call 13:41:37 Schedule 13:41:37 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:41:37 Cancellations 13:41:38 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:41:38 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:41:38 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:41:39 Publication Milestones calculator 13:41:39 Schedule 13:41:39 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) 13:41:40 F2F Planning 13:41:40 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:41:40 Location: Munich 13:41:41 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:41:42 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:41:42 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:41:42 Policies 13:41:43 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:41:43 TF Leads 13:41:43 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:41:44 Security - have candidate 13:41:44 Discovery 13:41:44 Architecture 13:41:45 Testing 13:41:45 Any nominations? 13:41:45 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:41:46 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:41:46 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:41:46 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:41:47 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:41:47 Other Topics 13:41:47 /Liaisons 13:41:48 /Collaborations 13:41:48 /Actions 13:41:48 TF Reports 13:41:49 Active 13:41:49 Scripting 13:41:49 Profile 13:41:50 Marketing 13:41:50 Use Cases 13:41:50 PlugFest/Testing 13:41:51 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:41:51 Suspended 13:41:51 Security 13:41:52 Discovery 13:41:52 Architecture 13:41:52 AOB? 13:41:53 Plugfest Organization 13:41:53 Chair: Sebastian 13:41:53 Note: Will be open to invited non-members. 13:41:54 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:41:54 16 October 2024 13:41:54 Reminder: Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:41:55 Chair: McCool ? 13:41:55 Regrets: Sebastian (only for the Main call) 13:41:55 Scribe: Jan 13:41:56 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:41:56 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:41:56 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:41:57 Membership classes and fees 13:41:57 New Members: none 13:41:57 New IE request: 13:41:58 today there was an onboarding call for Charith at 7pm JST (=noon CEST) 13:41:58 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability (Kaz will send a reminder) 13:41:58 Minutes 13:41:59 October-09 13:41:59 please review the minutes from TPAC. Ask for approvel: 13:41:59 TPAC minutes from day I: [1] 13:42:00 TPAC minutes from day II: [2] 13:42:00 General policy about the minutes: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:42:00 New Policy proposal 13:42:01 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:42:01 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:42:01 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:42:02 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:42:02 Quick Items 13:42:02 Notices (Informative) 13:42:03 Eclipse Thingweb will be present in the Eclipse Foundation's yearly event on Oct 22-24. https://www.ocxconf.org/event/778b82cc-6834-48a4-a58e-f883c5a7b8c9/websitePage:26bc9d91-446a-49e1-9f08-8fcc4680073e?session=b37c88ab-ef69-46ce-adf3-7180e9762e5b 13:42:03 Ege there in person 13:42:03 Jan and Cristiano will have a video/demo 13:42:03 dezell has left #wot 13:42:04 Meetups (Information only) 13:42:04 WoT CG 13:42:04 Postponed: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:42:05 14th of October: Beyonnex.io using WoT TMs in Smart Building for energy applications. Thomas Jaeckle. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ce7176a7-cc24-433a-a675-01e4dd4ff9b5/ 13:42:05 28th of October: Siemens Smart Edge Connector. Ondrej Tomcik. Link coming soon. 13:42:06 5th of November: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/881f7fe2-a545-4d7a-90c7-655d0f9cbd0e/20241105T160000/ 13:42:06 14th of November: WebThing Anything and Thing Debugging. Christian Jaller. Link coming soon. 13:42:06 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:42:07 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:42:07 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:42:07 WoT JP CG 13:42:08 No new plans currently. 13:42:08 Smart Cities IG 13:42:08 it is planned to organize a monthly-meeting 13:42:09 a doodle poll will be planned for organization 13:42:09 Liaisons 13:42:09 OPC Foundation 13:42:10 Last meeting was October 8 at 7am Pacific 13:42:10 Ege reported - Aparna Thuluva presented 13:42:10 Overview about the OPC UA liaison was given during TPAC (slides) 13:42:11 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:42:11 Next meeting October 22 13:42:11 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:42:12 Next meeting Monday October 28 13:42:12 After that every two weeks 13:42:12 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:42:13 Schedule 13:42:13 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:42:13 Cancellations 13:42:14 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:42:14 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:42:14 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:42:15 Publication Milestones calculator 13:42:15 Schedule 13:42:15 Scripting API slot is moving to Wednesday at 11-12am CET (See Doodle results) 13:42:16 F2F Planning 13:42:16 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:42:17 Location: Munich 13:42:17 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:42:17 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:42:18 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:42:18 Policies 13:42:18 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:42:19 TF Leads 13:42:19 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:42:19 Security - have candidate 13:42:20 Discovery 13:42:20 Architecture 13:42:20 Testing 13:42:21 Any nominations? 13:42:21 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:42:21 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:42:22 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:42:22 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:42:22 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:42:23 Other Topics 13:42:23 /Liaisons 13:42:23 /Collaborations 13:42:24 /Actions 13:42:24 TF Reports 13:42:24 Active 13:42:25 Scripting 13:42:25 Profile 13:42:25 Marketing 13:42:26 Use Cases 13:42:26 PlugFest/Testing 13:42:26 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:42:27 Suspended 13:42:27 Security 13:42:27 Discovery 13:42:28 Architecture 13:42:28 AOB? 13:42:28 Plugfest Organization 13:42:29 Moved to https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:42:29 9 October 2024 13:42:29 Reminder: Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:42:30 Chair: McCool 13:42:30 Regrets: David Ezell 13:42:30 Scribe: Kaz 13:42:31 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:42:31 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:42:31 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:42:31 Membership classes and fees 13:42:31 New Members: none 13:42:31 New IE request: 13:42:32 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:42:32 chairs and team contact working on onboarding 13:42:32 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:42:33 Minutes 13:42:33 September-18 13:42:33 please review the minutes from TPAC. Will be approved next time: 13:42:34 TPAC minutes from day I: [3] 13:42:34 TPAC minutes from day II: [4] 13:42:34 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:42:35 New Policy proposal 13:42:35 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:42:35 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:42:36 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:42:36 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:42:36 Quick Items 13:42:37 Notices (Informative) 13:42:37 Eclipse Thingweb will be present in the Eclipse Foundation's yearly event on Oct 22-24. https://www.ocxconf.org/event/778b82cc-6834-48a4-a58e-f883c5a7b8c9/websitePage:26bc9d91-446a-49e1-9f08-8fcc4680073e?session=b37c88ab-ef69-46ce-adf3-7180e9762e5b 13:42:37 Ege there in person 13:42:38 Jan and Cristiano will have a video/demo 13:42:38 Meetups (Information only) 13:42:38 WoT CG 13:42:39 Postponed: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:42:39 14th of October: Beyonnex.io using WoT TMs in Smart Building for energy applications. Thomas Jaeckle. https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ce7176a7-cc24-433a-a675-01e4dd4ff9b5/ 13:42:39 28th of October: Siemens Smart Edge Connector. Ondrej Tomcik. Link coming soon. 13:42:40 5th of November: Monthly Call https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/881f7fe2-a545-4d7a-90c7-655d0f9cbd0e/20241105T160000/ 13:42:40 14th of November: WebThing Anything and Thing Debugging. Christian Jaller. Link coming soon. 13:42:40 Regular Office Hours for Q&A on Thursdays, alternating between 9am CEST and 5pm CEST. Below are instances of each: 13:42:41 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9ec8a512-cf61-4aa5-a023-0049c1c4b8db/20241010T090000/ 13:42:41 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/ea4d8a96-d3f7-4c7c-847e-9e7c8478a714/20241017T170000/ 13:42:41 WoT JP CG 13:42:42 No new plans currently. 13:42:42 Smart Cities IG 13:42:42 To do 13:42:43 Liaisons 13:42:43 OPC Foundation 13:42:43 Last meeting was October 8 at 7am Pacific 13:42:44 Ege reported - Aparna Thuluva presented 13:42:44 Overview about the OPC UA liaison was given during TPAC (slides) 13:42:44 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:42:45 Next meeting October 22 13:42:45 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:42:45 Next meeting Monday October 14 13:42:46 After that every two weeks 13:42:46 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:42:46 Schedule 13:42:47 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:42:47 Cancellations 13:42:47 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:42:48 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:42:48 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:42:48 Publication Milestones calculator 13:42:49 Schedule 13:42:49 F2F Planning 13:42:49 TPAC 2024 13:42:50 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:42:50 [5] See github 13:42:50 To do: review breakouts 13:42:51 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities 13:42:51 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:42:51 Location: Munich 13:42:52 Registration open for WoT Conference 2024 event (sponsored by Siemens) on Nov 27 13:42:52 Note that there are other events that week run by W3C 13:42:52 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:42:53 Policies 13:42:53 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:42:53 TF Leads 13:42:54 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:42:54 Security - have candidate 13:42:54 Discovery 13:42:55 Architecture 13:42:55 Testing 13:42:55 Any nominations? 13:42:56 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:42:56 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:42:56 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:42:57 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:42:57 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:42:57 Other Topics 13:42:58 /Liaisons 13:42:58 /Collaborations 13:42:58 /Actions 13:42:59 TF Reports 13:42:59 Active 13:42:59 Scripting 13:43:00 Profile 13:43:00 Marketing 13:43:00 Use Cases 13:43:01 PlugFest/Testing 13:43:01 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:43:01 Suspended 13:43:02 Security 13:43:02 Discovery 13:43:02 Architecture 13:43:03 AOB? 13:43:03 Plugfest Organization 13:43:03 Moved to https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:43:04 2 October 2024 13:43:04 Cancelled (post-TPAC) 13:43:04 25 September 2024 13:43:05 Cancelled (TPAC) 13:43:05 18 September 2024 13:43:05 Reminder: Plugfest organization call immediately after this call. 13:43:06 Chair: McCool 13:43:06 Regrets: 13:43:06 Scribe: Mahda 13:43:06 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:43:06 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:43:07 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:43:07 Membership classes and fees 13:43:07 New Members: none 13:43:08 New IE request: 13:43:08 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:43:08 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:43:09 However, now need to let them know that if they can't present today, main call will be cancelled for three weeks. 13:43:09 Minutes 13:43:09 September-11 13:43:10 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:43:10 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:43:10 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:43:11 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:43:11 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:43:11 Quick Items 13:43:12 Notices (Informative) 13:43:12 Eclipse Thingweb will be present in the Eclipse Foundation's yearly event on Oct 22-24. https://www.ocxconf.org/event/778b82cc-6834-48a4-a58e-f883c5a7b8c9/websitePage:26bc9d91-446a-49e1-9f08-8fcc4680073e?session=b37c88ab-ef69-46ce-adf3-7180e9762e5b 13:43:12 WoT CG has prepared a video summary of the meetups to highlight WoT adoption for TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/demo-wot-summary.html 13:43:13 Meetups (Information only) 13:43:13 WoT CG 13:43:13 1st of October: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:43:14 14th of October: Beyonnex.io using WoT in Smart Building for energy applications. Thomas Jaeckle. Link coming soon. 13:43:15 28th of October: Siemens Smart Edge Connector. Ondrej Tomcik. Link coming soon. 13:43:15 WoT JP CG 13:43:15 No new plans currently. 13:43:16 Liaisons 13:43:16 OPC Foundation 13:43:16 Last meeting was September 10 at 7am Pacific 13:43:17 Next meeting is September 24 at 7am Pacific 13:43:17 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:43:17 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:43:19 Next meeting Monday October 14 13:43:19 After that every two weeks 13:43:19 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:43:19 Schedule 13:43:19 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:43:19 Cancellations 13:43:20 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:43:20 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:43:20 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:43:21 Publication Milestones calculator 13:43:21 Schedule 13:43:21 F2F Planning 13:43:22 TPAC 2024 13:43:22 Registration Open 13:43:22 Early Bird and Standard deadlines have passed... 13:43:23 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:43:23 Remote available until Sept 27 - $90USD - no late fee 13:43:23 Group meeting schedule 13:43:24 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:43:24 See github repo for presentation materials and templates 13:43:24 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:43:25 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:43:25 Need to reach out and coordinate agendas for the joint meetings 13:43:25 Need to finalize our schedule for meetings and breakouts, fill in the F2F Wii, e.g. profile discussions 13:43:26 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:43:26 Location: Munich 13:43:26 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:43:26 Policies 13:43:26 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:43:26 TF Leads 13:43:27 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:43:27 Security - have candidate 13:43:27 Discovery 13:43:28 Architecture 13:43:28 Testing 13:43:28 Any nominations? 13:43:29 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:43:29 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:43:29 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:43:30 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:43:30 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:43:30 Other Topics 13:43:31 /Liaisons 13:43:31 /Collaborations 13:43:31 /Actions 13:43:32 TF Reports 13:43:32 Active 13:43:32 Scripting 13:43:33 Profile 13:43:33 Marketing 13:43:33 Use Cases 13:43:34 PlugFest/Testing 13:43:34 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:43:34 Suspended 13:43:35 Security 13:43:35 Discovery 13:43:35 Architecture 13:43:36 AOB? 13:43:36 Plugfest Organization 13:43:36 Moved to https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas 13:43:37 11 September 2024 13:43:37 Reminder: Profile call today in the hour just before TD call. 13:43:37 Chair: McCool 13:43:38 Regrets: Ege 13:43:38 Scribe: Sebastian 13:43:38 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:43:39 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:43:39 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:43:39 Membership classes and fees 13:43:40 New Members: none 13:43:40 New IE request: 13:43:40 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:43:41 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:43:41 However, now need to let them know that if they can't present today, main call will be cancelled for three weeks. 13:43:41 Minutes 13:43:42 September-04 13:43:42 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:43:42 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:43:43 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:43:43 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:43:43 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:43:44 Quick Items 13:43:44 Notices (Informative) 13:43:44 None 13:43:45 Meetups (Information only) 13:43:45 WoT CG 13:43:45 19th of September: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:43:46 WoT JP CG 13:43:46 No new plans currently. 13:43:46 Liaisons 13:43:47 OPC Foundation 13:43:47 Last meeting was September 10 at 7am Pacific 13:43:47 Next meeting is September 24 at 7am Pacific 13:43:48 Open to WoT IG/WG members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:43:48 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:43:48 Next meeting Friday Sept 13 13:43:49 Meeting after that Oct 14-18 13:43:49 Subsequently every two weeks 13:43:49 Open to all WoT IG/WG members 13:43:50 Doodle poll for time (6,7M; 6,7F, PT): https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb 13:43:50 Schedule 13:43:50 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:43:51 Cancellations 13:43:51 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:43:51 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:43:52 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:43:53 Publication Milestones calculator 13:43:53 Schedule 13:43:53 F2F Planning 13:43:54 TPAC 2024 13:43:54 Registration Open 13:43:54 Early Bird and Standard deadlines have passed... 13:43:55 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:43:55 Remote available until Sept 27 - $90USD - no late fee 13:43:55 Group meeting schedule 13:43:56 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:43:56 See github repo for presentation materials and templates 13:43:56 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:43:57 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:43:57 Need to reach out and coordinate agendas for the joint meetings 13:43:57 Need to finalize our schedule for meetings and breakouts, fill in the F2F Wii, e.g. profile discussions 13:43:58 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:43:58 Location: Munich 13:43:58 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:43:59 Policies 13:43:59 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:43:59 TF Leads 13:44:00 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:44:00 Security - have candidate 13:44:00 Discovery 13:44:01 Architecture 13:44:01 Testing 13:44:01 Any nominations? 13:44:02 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:44:02 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:44:02 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:44:03 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:44:03 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:44:03 Other Topics 13:44:04 /Liaisons 13:44:04 /Collaborations 13:44:04 /Actions 13:44:05 TF Reports 13:44:05 Active 13:44:05 Scripting 13:44:06 Profile 13:44:06 Marketing 13:44:06 Use Cases 13:44:07 PlugFest/Testing 13:44:07 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:44:07 Suspended 13:44:08 Security 13:44:08 Discovery 13:44:08 Architecture 13:44:09 AOB? 13:44:09 Plugfest Organization 13:44:09 Chair: Sebastian 13:44:10 4 September 2024 13:44:10 Chair: McCool 13:44:10 Regrets: Ege, Sebastian 13:44:11 Scribe: Daniel 13:44:11 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:44:11 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:44:12 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:44:12 Membership classes and fees 13:44:12 New Members: none 13:44:13 New IE request: 13:44:13 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:44:13 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:44:14 However, now need to let them know that if they can't present today, main call will be cancelled for three weeks. 13:44:14 Minutes 13:44:14 August-07 13:44:15 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:44:15 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:44:15 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:44:16 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:44:16 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:44:16 Quick Items 13:44:17 Notices (Informative) 13:44:17 None 13:44:17 Meetups (Information only) 13:44:18 WoT CG 13:44:18 19th of September: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:44:18 WoT JP CG 13:44:19 No new plans currently. 13:44:19 Liaisons 13:44:20 OPC Foundation 13:44:20 Next meeting September 10 at 7am Pacific 13:44:20 For OPCF members - contact Sebastian if interested 13:44:21 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:44:21 Next meeting week of Sept 9-13 13:44:21 Meeting after that Oct 14-18 13:44:22 Subsequently every two weeks 13:44:22 Open to all WoT IG members 13:44:22 Doodle poll for time (6,7M; 6,7F, PT): https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb 13:44:23 Schedule 13:44:23 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:44:23 Cancellations 13:44:24 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:44:24 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:44:24 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:44:25 Publication Milestones calculator 13:44:25 Schedule 13:44:25 F2F Planning 13:44:26 TPAC 2024 13:44:26 Registration Open 13:44:26 Early Bird and Standard deadlines have passed... 13:44:27 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:44:27 Remote available until Sept 27 - $90USD - no late fee 13:44:27 Group meeting schedule 13:44:28 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:44:28 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:44:28 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:44:29 Need to reach out and coordinate agendas for the joint meetings 13:44:29 Need to finalize our schedule for meetings and breakouts, fill in the F2F Wii, e.g. profile discussions 13:44:29 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:44:30 Location: Munich 13:44:30 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:44:30 Policies 13:44:31 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:44:31 TF Leads 13:44:32 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:44:32 Security - have candidate 13:44:32 Discovery 13:44:33 Architecture 13:44:33 Testing 13:44:33 Any nominations? 13:44:34 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:44:34 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:44:34 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:44:35 Accelerating Use Cases work 13:44:35 McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:44:35 Other Topics 13:44:36 /Liaisons 13:44:36 /Collaborations 13:44:36 /Actions 13:44:37 TF Reports 13:44:37 Active 13:44:37 Scripting 13:44:39 Profile 13:44:39 Marketing 13:44:39 Use Cases 13:44:39 PlugFest/Testing 13:44:39 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:44:39 Suspended 13:44:40 Security 13:44:40 Discovery 13:44:40 Architecture 13:44:41 AOB? 13:44:41 Plugfest Organization 13:44:41 Defer until Sept 18. 13:44:42 7 August 2024 13:44:42 Extended call: will discuss plugfest after the main call topics. 13:44:42 Chair: McCool 13:44:43 Regrets: 13:44:43 Scribe: Sebastian 13:44:43 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:44:44 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:44:44 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:44:44 Membership classes and fees 13:44:45 New Members: none 13:44:45 New IE request: 13:44:45 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:44:46 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:44:46 However, now need to let them know that if they can't present today, main call will be cancelled for three weeks. 13:44:47 Minutes 13:44:47 July-31 13:44:47 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:44:48 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:44:48 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:44:48 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:44:49 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:44:49 Quick Items 13:44:49 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:44:50 Approval announcement (Member-only) has been sent out 13:44:50 Next steps: Breakout session during TPAC 2024 13:44:50 Adopter list 13:44:51 Initial issue: https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg/issues/173 13:44:51 How to accelerate the Use Cases work? 13:44:51 TF Resolution Today: Discuss the new template given in usecases PR https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/300 in the main call today and call for a resolution to adopt it on Sept 4 - in the meantime, do test cases based on TD use cases and request feedback and suggested changes in the PR. 13:44:52 Would like to add a second TF moderator to focus on requirements. 13:44:52 Notices (Informative) 13:44:52 First part of a WoT Tutorial is published by the WoT CG: 13:44:53 Website: https://w3c.github.io/wot-cg/tutorials/whatiswot/ 13:44:53 Can raise issues here: https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg/issues 13:44:53 YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7z9Jd8H_9zpA7LFyWy8-kuHvIfpL4X8i 13:44:54 Meetups (Information only) 13:44:54 WoT CG 13:44:54 19th of September: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Lasers! 13:44:55 WoT JP CG 13:44:55 Use Case event July 26 13:44:55 Liaisons 13:44:56 OPC Foundation 13:44:56 Next meeting in September 13:44:56 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:44:56 Next meeting week of Sept 9-13 13:44:57 Meeting after that Oct 14-18 13:44:57 Subsequently every two weeks 13:44:57 Open to all WoT IG members 13:44:58 Doodle poll for time (6,7M; 6,7F, PT): https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb 13:44:58 Schedule 13:44:58 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:44:59 Cancellations 13:44:59 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:44:59 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:45:00 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:45:00 Publication Milestones calculator 13:45:00 Schedule 13:45:01 F2F Planning 13:45:01 TPAC 2024 13:45:01 Registration Open 13:45:02 Early Bird deadline has passed... 13:45:02 Standard until 1 September 2024 13:45:02 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:45:03 Group meeting schedule 13:45:03 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:45:03 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:45:04 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:45:04 Need to reach out and coordinate agendas for the joint meetings 13:45:04 Need to finalize our schedule for meetings and breakouts, fill in the F2F Wii, e.g. profile discussions 13:45:05 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:45:05 Location: Munich 13:45:05 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:45:06 Policies 13:45:06 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:45:06 TF Leads 13:45:07 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:45:07 Security - have candidate 13:45:07 Discovery 13:45:08 Architecture 13:45:09 Testing 13:45:09 Any nominations? 13:45:09 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:45:10 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:45:10 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:45:10 Other Topics 13:45:11 /Liaisons 13:45:11 /Collaborations 13:45:11 /Actions 13:45:12 TF Reports 13:45:12 Active 13:45:12 Scripting 13:45:13 Profile 13:45:13 Marketing 13:45:13 Use Cases 13:45:14 PlugFest/Testing 13:45:14 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:45:14 Suspended 13:45:15 Security 13:45:15 Discovery 13:45:15 Architecture 13:45:16 AOB? 13:45:16 Plugfest 13:45:16 Extended meeting to discuss Plugfest 13:45:17 Non-recurring meeting 13:45:17 Allow 1h for this discussion 13:45:17 Chair: Sebastian 13:45:18 Scribe: McCool 13:45:18 minutes from July 24 13:45:18 latest agenda plan and list of participants: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning#Agenda_%28Draft%29 13:45:19 Technical organization happens at https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich 13:45:19 PR available: https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/588 13:45:19 31 July 2024 13:45:20 Chair: Koster 13:45:20 Regrets: 13:45:20 Scribe: Luca 13:45:21 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:45:21 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:45:21 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:45:22 Membership classes and fees 13:45:22 New Members: none 13:45:22 New IE request: 13:45:23 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:45:23 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:45:24 Minutes 13:45:24 July-24 13:45:24 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:45:25 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:45:25 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:45:25 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:45:26 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:45:26 Quick Items 13:45:26 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:45:27 Approval announcement has been sent out 13:45:27 Should Planning documents in the main wot repository (see https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/planning) move to specific TF repos? TD TF planning is growing. 13:45:27 Report from Ege 13:45:28 Adopter list 13:45:28 Notices (Informative) 13:45:28 None 13:45:29 Meetups (Information only) 13:45:29 WoT CG 13:45:29 19th of September: Scientific Instrumentation and Control with WoT. Link coming asap 13:45:30 WoT JP CG 13:45:30 Use Case event July 26 13:45:30 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:45:31 JP CG's re-using the UC template is fine by the WoT IG, but the template is not fixed yet. Also we as the WoT IG need to check the feasibility of the template ourselves beforehand. So we need to see when to let the JP CG use the template. 13:45:31 Liaisons 13:45:31 OPC Foundation 13:45:32 July 30 - OPC UA Binding WG "Kickoff Meeting" (OPCF Meeting) 13:45:32 Liaison table for OPC updated 13:45:32 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:45:33 Liaison table for ETSI updated 13:45:33 dedicated ML created 13:45:33 Every 2 weeks, next meeting Aug 2nd 13:45:34 Soon to schedule a broader meeting... 13:45:34 Schedule 13:45:35 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:45:35 Cancellations 13:45:35 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:45:36 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:45:36 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:45:36 Publication Milestones calculator 13:45:37 Schedule 13:45:37 F2F Planning 13:45:37 TPAC 2024 13:45:38 Registration Open 13:45:38 Early Bird deadline has passed... 13:45:38 Standard until 1 September 2024 13:45:39 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:45:39 Group meeting schedule 13:45:39 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:45:40 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:45:40 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:45:40 Need to reach out and coordinate agendas for the joint meetings 13:45:41 Need to finalize our schedule for meetings and breakouts, fill in the F2F Wii, e.g. profile discussions 13:45:41 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:45:41 Location: Munich 13:45:42 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:45:42 Policies 13:45:42 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:45:43 TF Leads 13:45:43 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:45:43 Security 13:45:44 Discovery 13:45:44 Architecture 13:45:44 Testing 13:45:45 Any nominations? 13:45:45 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:45:45 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:45:46 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:45:46 Other Topics 13:45:46 /Liaisons 13:45:47 /Collaborations 13:45:47 /Actions 13:45:47 TF Reports 13:45:48 Active 13:45:48 Scripting 13:45:48 Profile 13:45:49 Marketing 13:45:49 Use Cases 13:45:49 PlugFest/Testing 13:45:50 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:45:50 Suspended 13:45:50 Security 13:45:51 Discovery 13:45:51 Architecture 13:45:51 AOB? 13:45:52 24 July 2024 13:45:52 1st hour 13:45:52 Chair: Sebastian 13:45:53 Regrets: McCool 13:45:53 Scribe: Michael Koster 13:45:53 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:45:54 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:45:54 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:45:54 Membership classes and fees 13:45:55 New Members: none 13:45:55 New IE request: 13:45:55 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:45:56 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:45:56 Minutes 13:45:56 July-17 13:45:57 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:45:57 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:45:57 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:45:58 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:45:58 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:45:58 Quick Items 13:45:59 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:45:59 More than 20 supports, so likely approved, but still pending. - waiting for confirmation from one Member (deadline: Monday, July 22) 13:45:59 Web Transport WG Proposed Charter 13:46:00 We want to request adding WoT-WG/IG to their charter as collaborators. 13:46:00 See also: AC review form (Member-only) 13:46:01 Should Planning documents in the main wot repository (see https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/planning) move to specific TF repos? TD TF planning is growing. 13:46:01 Notices (Informative) 13:46:01 None 13:46:02 Meetups (Information only) 13:46:02 WoT CG 13:46:02 Plans? 13:46:03 WoT JP CG 13:46:03 Use Case event planned for July 26 13:46:03 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:46:04 Request to use the WoT IG's Use Case template for their UC event 13:46:04 The WoT-JP CG would like to copy the WoT Use Case template to their repository. 13:46:04 Then they would like to describe their use cases in Japanese using the template. 13:46:05 And bring the use cases back to the WoT Use Cases TF after translating the use cases in Engish. 13:46:05 The original Japanese use cases should be archived so they are available for future reference. 13:46:05 => Re-using the UC template itself should be fine, but the template is not fixed yet. Also we as the WoT IG need to check the feasibility of the template ourselves beforehand. So we need to see when to let the JP CG use the template. 13:46:06 Liaisons 13:46:06 OPC Foundation 13:46:06 July 30 - OPC UA Binding WG "Kickoff Meeting" (OPCF Meeting) 13:46:07 Liaison table for OPC updated 13:46:07 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:46:07 Liaison table for ETSI updated 13:46:08 dedicated ML created 13:46:08 Considering scheduling a broader meeting... 13:46:08 Schedule 13:46:09 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:46:09 Cancellations 13:46:09 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:46:10 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:46:10 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:46:11 Publication Milestones calculator 13:46:11 Schedule 13:46:11 F2F Planning 13:46:12 TPAC 2024 13:46:12 Registration Open 13:46:12 Early Bird deadline has passed... 13:46:13 Standard until 1 September 2024 13:46:13 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:46:13 Group meeting schedule 13:46:14 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:46:14 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:46:14 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:46:15 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:46:15 Location: Munich 13:46:15 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:46:16 Policies 13:46:16 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:46:16 https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1204 13:46:17 TF Leads 13:46:17 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:46:17 Security 13:46:18 Discovery 13:46:18 Architecture 13:46:18 Testing 13:46:19 Any nominations? 13:46:19 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:46:19 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:46:20 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:46:20 Other Topics 13:46:20 /Liaisons 13:46:21 /Collaborations 13:46:21 /Actions 13:46:21 TF Reports 13:46:22 Active 13:46:22 Scripting 13:46:22 Profile 13:46:23 Marketing 13:46:23 Use Cases 13:46:23 PlugFest/Testing 13:46:24 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:46:24 Suspended 13:46:24 Security 13:46:25 Discovery 13:46:25 Architecture 13:46:25 AOB? 13:46:26 2nd hour 13:46:26 Extended meeting to discuss Plugfest 13:46:26 Non-recurring meeting 13:46:26 Allow 1h for this discussion 13:46:26 Will cancel Profile call on 24 July as well 13:46:26 Chair: Sebastian 13:46:27 Scribe: Mahda 13:46:27 (Ege can talk about the basic plan for Plugfest during WoT Week in November.) 13:46:27 Technical organization happens at https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich 13:46:28 PR available: https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/587 13:46:28 17 July 2024 13:46:28 Chair: McCool 13:46:29 Regrets: 13:46:29 Scribe: Sebastian 13:46:29 Main Call Topics 13:46:30 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:46:30 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:46:30 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:46:31 Membership classes and fees 13:46:31 New Members: none 13:46:31 New IE request: 13:46:32 Charith Perera will make a presentation during this call. 13:46:32 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:46:32 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:46:33 Minutes 13:46:33 July-10 13:46:33 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:46:34 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:46:34 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:46:34 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:46:35 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:46:35 Quick Items 13:46:35 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:46:36 More than 20 supports, so likely approved, but still pending. 13:46:36 Notices (Informative) 13:46:36 None 13:46:37 Meetups (Information only) 13:46:37 WoT CG 13:46:37 Plans? 13:46:38 WoT JP CG 13:46:39 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:46:39 Use Case event planned for July 26 13:46:39 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:46:40 Guest Presentation 13:46:40 Presentation by Charith Perera, Invited Expert Candidate 13:46:40 10m + 5m Q&A 13:46:41 Collaboration 13:46:41 Web Transport WG Proposed Charter 13:46:41 Do we want to request adding ourselves to their charter as collaborators? 13:46:42 See also: https://www.w3.org/TR/webtransport/ 13:46:42 Liaisons 13:46:42 OPC Foundation 13:46:43 July 30 - OPC UA Binding WG "Kickoff Meeting" (OPCF Meeting) 13:46:43 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:46:43 Will reuse ETSI liaison, Kaz now to be listed as contact 13:46:44 Considering scheduling a broader meeting... 13:46:44 Schedule 13:46:44 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:46:45 Cancellations 13:46:45 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:46:45 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:46:46 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:46:46 Publication Milestones calculator 13:46:46 Schedule 13:46:47 F2F Planning 13:46:47 TPAC 2024 13:46:47 Registration Open 13:46:48 Early Bird deadline has passed... 13:46:48 Standard until 1 September 2024 13:46:48 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:46:49 Group meeting schedule 13:46:49 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:46:49 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:46:50 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:46:50 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:46:50 Location: Munich 13:46:51 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:46:51 Policies 13:46:51 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:46:52 Marketing 13:46:52 List of adopters on web page 13:46:52 Marcomm has given feedback 13:46:53 Best if WG does not do this... but CG can 13:46:53 Invitees to WoT Week (including non-WG) 13:46:53 Only for "Open Day" 13:46:54 Attendance? 13:46:54 Presentations? 13:46:54 Posters? 13:46:55 Demos? 13:46:55 Plugfest? 13:46:55 Profile 13:46:56 Publication 13:46:56 Meetings 13:46:56 Role 13:46:57 Goals 13:46:57 TF Leads 13:46:57 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:46:58 Security 13:46:58 Discovery 13:46:58 Architecture 13:46:59 Testing 13:46:59 Any nominations? 13:46:59 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:47:00 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:47:00 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:47:00 Other Topics 13:47:01 /Liaisons 13:47:01 /Collaborations 13:47:01 /Actions 13:47:02 TF Reports 13:47:02 Scripting 13:47:02 Security - suspended. 13:47:03 Discovery - suspended 13:47:03 Profile 13:47:03 Marketing 13:47:04 Use Cases 13:47:04 PlugFest/Testing - suspended 13:47:04 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:47:05 Architecture - suspended 13:47:05 AOB? 13:47:05 10 July 2024 13:47:06 Chair: McCool 13:47:06 Regrets: 13:47:06 Scribe: Ege 13:47:07 Main Call Topics 13:47:07 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:47:07 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:47:08 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:47:08 Membership classes and fees 13:47:09 New Members: none 13:47:09 New IE request: 13:47:09 Charith Perera will make his presentation during the main call on July 17. 13:47:10 still waiting for one more pending - asking about availability 13:47:10 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:47:10 Minutes 13:47:11 July-03 13:47:11 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:47:11 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:47:12 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:47:12 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:47:12 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:47:13 Quick Items 13:47:13 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:47:13 More than 20 supports, so likely approved. 13:47:14 W3C calendar system shows entries for Discovery, Security, and Architecture 13:47:14 We should mark them as suspended for now. 13:47:14 No way to delete, and cancellations cannot be reversed 13:47:15 Instead, have changed end dates for recurrences to July 15 13:47:15 Acts as a "suspension" - to reinstate, can find under past events and edit again. 13:47:15 Note also that several recurrences are ending August 1 - should update active meetings 13:47:16 End of current IG charter is May 19, 2026 13:47:16 Also, link to W3C Calendar from WoT Web page does goes to the IG calendar - does not list all meetings 13:47:16 Should link to BOTH IG and WG (and maybe CG?) 13:47:17 Marketing 13:47:17 Adopters page for marketing page until WoT Week (or better TPAC) 13:47:17 Notices (Informative) 13:47:18 None 13:47:18 Meetups (Information only) 13:47:18 WoT CG 13:47:18 Plans? 13:47:18 WoT JP CG 13:47:18 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:47:19 Use Case event planned for July 26 13:47:19 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:47:19 Liaisons 13:47:20 OPC Foundation statement of support 13:47:20 completed, update sent 13:47:20 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:47:21 Will reuse ETSI liaison, Kaz now to be listed as contact 13:47:21 Meeting Schedule Changes 13:47:21 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:47:22 Cancellations 13:47:22 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:47:22 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:47:23 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:47:23 Publication schedule 13:47:23 Milestones calculator 13:47:24 Schedule 13:47:24 Added TPAC and WoT Week 13:47:24 F2F Planning 13:47:25 TPAC 2024 13:47:25 Registration Open 13:47:25 Early Bird until 16 July 2024 (next Tuesday!) 13:47:26 Standard until 1 September 2024 (nearly twice the Early Bird rate) 13:47:26 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:47:26 Group meeting schedule 13:47:27 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:47:27 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:47:27 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:47:28 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:47:28 Location: Munich 13:47:28 Hotel on U6 line/Garching recommended: 13:47:29 Dorint Hotel Garching 13:47:29 Courtyard Munich Garching 13:47:29 Probably will not be a special hotel rate... 13:47:30 Nov 25-29 overall 13:47:31 Nov 25-26: (M-T) Plugfest 13:47:31 Technical Plans: https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2024.11.Munich 13:47:31 TD TF has started organizing this. How to organize this as a group? Restart Plugfest TF or longer Main Call? 13:47:32 Nov 27 (W): "WoT @ Industry Leadership Event" (Siemens) 13:47:32 Open Day 13:47:32 Party at night 13:47:33 Nov 28-29 (Th-F): F2F (WG) meetings (1.5 - short last day) 13:47:33 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:47:33 Overlaps Münchner Christkindlmarkt 13:47:34 Policies 13:47:34 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:47:34 Profile 13:47:35 Publication 13:47:35 Meetings 13:47:35 Role 13:47:36 Goals 13:47:36 TF Leads 13:47:36 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:47:37 Security 13:47:37 Discovery 13:47:37 Architecture 13:47:38 Testing 13:47:38 Any nominations? 13:47:38 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:47:39 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:47:39 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:47:39 Other Topics 13:47:40 /Liaisons 13:47:40 /Collaborations 13:47:40 /Actions 13:47:41 TF Reports 13:47:41 Scripting 13:47:41 Security - suspended. 13:47:42 Discovery - suspended 13:47:42 Profile 13:47:42 Marketing 13:47:43 Use Cases 13:47:43 PlugFest/Testing - suspended 13:47:43 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:47:44 Architecture - suspended 13:47:44 AOB? 13:47:44 3 July 2024 13:47:45 Chair: McCool 13:47:45 Regrets: David, Sebastian 13:47:45 Scribe: Jan 13:47:46 Main Call Topics 13:47:46 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:47:47 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:47:47 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:47:47 Membership classes and fees 13:47:48 New Members: none 13:47:48 New IE request: 13:47:48 two more pending - asking about their availability 13:47:49 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:47:49 Minutes 13:47:49 June-26 13:47:50 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:47:50 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:47:50 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:47:51 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:47:51 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:47:51 Quick Items 13:47:52 Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG 13:47:52 More than 20 supports, so likely approved. 13:47:52 W3C calendar system shows entries for Discovery and Security. We should mark them as suspended for now. 13:47:53 Notices (Informative) 13:47:53 None 13:47:53 Meetups (Information only) 13:47:54 WoT CG 13:47:54 Plans? 13:47:54 WoT JP CG 13:47:55 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:47:55 Use Case event being planned for July 13:47:55 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:47:56 Liaisons 13:47:56 OPC Foundation statement of support 13:47:56 pending 13:47:57 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:47:57 Will reuse ETSI liaison, Kaz now listed as contact 13:47:57 Meeting Schedule Changes 13:47:58 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:47:58 Cancellations 13:47:58 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:47:59 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:47:59 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:47:59 Publication schedule 13:48:00 Milestones calculator 13:48:00 Schedule 13:48:00 Added TPAC and WoT Week 13:48:01 F2F Planning 13:48:01 TPAC 2024 13:48:01 Registration Open 13:48:02 Early bird until 16 July 2024 13:48:02 Standard until 1 September 2024 13:48:02 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:48:03 Group meeting schedule 13:48:03 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:48:03 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:48:04 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:48:04 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:48:04 Location: Munich 13:48:05 Hotel on U6 line/Garching recommended: 13:48:05 Dorint Hotel Garching 13:48:05 Courtyard Munich Garching 13:48:06 Probably will not be a special hotel rate... 13:48:06 Nov 25-29 overall 13:48:06 Nov 25-26: (M-T) Plugfest 13:48:07 Nov 27 (W): "WoT @ Industry Leadership Event" (Siemens) 13:48:07 Open Day 13:48:07 Party at night 13:48:08 Nov 28-29 (Th-F): F2F (WG) meetings (1.5 - short last day) 13:48:08 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:48:08 Overlaps Münchner Christkindlmarkt 13:48:09 Policies 13:48:09 https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 13:48:09 Profile 13:48:10 Publication 13:48:10 Meetings 13:48:10 Role 13:48:11 Goals 13:48:11 TF Leads 13:48:11 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:48:12 Security 13:48:12 Discovery 13:48:12 Architecture 13:48:14 Testing 13:48:14 Any nominations? 13:48:14 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:48:14 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:48:14 Work on Architecture will depend on refactoring discussion results 13:48:14 Other Topics 13:48:15 /Liaisons 13:48:15 /Collaborations 13:48:15 /Actions 13:48:16 TF Reports 13:48:16 Scripting 13:48:16 Security - suspended. 13:48:17 Discovery - suspended 13:48:17 Profile 13:48:17 Marketing 13:48:18 Use Cases 13:48:18 PlugFest/Testing - suspended 13:48:18 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:48:19 Architecture - suspended 13:48:19 AOB? 13:48:19 26 June 2024 13:48:20 Chair: McCool 13:48:20 Regrets: 13:48:20 Scribe: Mahda 13:48:21 Main Call Topics 13:48:21 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:48:21 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:48:22 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:48:22 Membership classes and fees 13:48:22 New Members: none 13:48:23 New IE request: 13:48:23 two more pending - asking about their availability 13:48:23 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:48:24 Minutes 13:48:24 June-19 13:48:24 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:48:25 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:48:25 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:48:25 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:48:26 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:48:26 Quick Items 13:48:27 Call for AC review (Member-only) sent out for the Draft Charter of Proposed Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG (deadline: July 3) - Please ask your AC to respond! 13:48:27 Confirm new Editors for Use Case and Requirements 13:48:27 Resolution in UC TF: Propose Luca Barbato and Ege Korkan as new Editors for the Use Case and Requirements document, and request a resolution to confirm in the WG main call. 13:48:28 Proposed resolution: Confirm Luca Barbato and Ege Korkan as new Editors for the Use Case and Requirements document. 13:48:28 Also change status of inactive editors: 13:48:28 Proposed resolution: Change status of Michael Lagally and Ryuichi Matsukura to Previous Editors for the Use Case and Requirements document. 13:48:29 We really should have a written policy to allow TFs to select editors... 13:48:29 Notices (Informative) 13:48:29 None 13:48:30 Meetups (Information only) 13:48:30 WoT CG 13:48:30 Plans? 13:48:31 WoT JP CG 13:48:31 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:48:31 Use Case event being planned for July 13:48:32 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:48:32 Liaisons 13:48:32 OPC Foundation statement of support 13:48:33 pending 13:48:33 ETSI ISG CIM (NGSI-LD) Simple Liaison 13:48:33 pending 13:48:34 Errata 13:48:34 Policy now in effect: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/policies/errata-management.md 13:48:34 Meeting Schedule Changes 13:48:35 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:48:35 Cancellations 13:48:35 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:48:36 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:48:36 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:48:36 Publication schedule 13:48:37 Milestones calculator 13:48:37 Schedule 13:48:37 Added TPAC and WoT Week 13:48:38 F2F Planning 13:48:39 TPAC 2024 13:48:39 Registration Open 13:48:39 Early bird until 16 July 2024 13:48:40 Standard 1 September 2024 13:48:40 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:48:40 Group meeting schedule 13:48:41 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:48:41 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:48:41 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:48:42 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:48:42 Location: Munich 13:48:42 Hotel on U6 line/Garching recommended: 13:48:43 Dorint Hotel Garching 13:48:43 Courtyard Munich Garching 13:48:43 Probably will not be a special hotel rate... 13:48:44 Nov 25-29 overall 13:48:44 Nov 25-26: (M-T) Plugfest 13:48:44 Nov 27 (W): "WoT @ Industry Leadership Event" (Siemens) 13:48:45 Open Day 13:48:45 Party at night 13:48:45 Nov 28-29 (Th-F): F2F (WG) meetings (1.5 - short last day) 13:48:45 benfrancis has joined #wot 13:48:46 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:48:46 Overlaps Münchner Christkindlmarkt 13:48:46 Document Refactoring 13:48:47 Where do requirements go? 13:48:47 What is the role/status of Architecture? 13:48:47 How can we better organize Profiles? 13:48:48 Do we have to wait until UC&R is a Note before implementing features? 13:48:48 Probably not, but asking for consensus 13:48:48 Profile 13:48:49 Publication 13:48:49 Current version as a Note or as a Rec? 13:48:49 Meetings 13:48:50 Combine with TD/Binding call? 13:48:50 Resources 13:48:50 Ontology files synchronization: https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/21 13:48:51 Versioning (see also Draft policy in TD repo) 13:48:51 Next Steps? 13:48:52 TF Leads 13:48:52 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:48:52 Security 13:48:53 Discovery 13:48:53 Any nominations? 13:48:53 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:48:54 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:48:54 Other Topics 13:48:54 /Liaisons 13:48:55 /Collaborations 13:48:55 /Actions 13:48:55 TF Reports 13:48:56 Scripting 13:48:56 Security - suspended. 13:48:56 Discovery - suspended 13:48:57 Profile 13:48:57 Marketing 13:48:57 Use Cases 13:48:58 PlugFest/Testing - suspended 13:48:58 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:48:58 Architecture - suspended 13:48:59 AOB? 13:48:59 19 June 2024 13:48:59 Chair: McCool 13:49:00 Regrets: 13:49:00 Scribe: Sebastian 13:49:00 Main Call Topics 13:49:01 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:49:01 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:49:01 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:49:02 Membership classes and fees 13:49:02 New Members: none 13:49:02 New IE request: 13:49:03 two more pending - asking about their availability 13:49:03 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:49:03 Minutes 13:49:04 June-05 13:49:04 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:49:04 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:49:05 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:49:05 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:49:05 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:49:06 Quick Items 13:49:07 Call for AC review (Member-only) sent out for the Draft Charter of Proposed Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG (deadline: July 3) - Please ask your AC to respond! 13:49:07 Watch out for spam github issues... - e.g., wot-binding-templates Issue 366 13:49:07 Notices (Informative) 13:49:08 None 13:49:08 Meetups (Information only) 13:49:08 WoT CG 13:49:09 Plans? 13:49:09 WoT JP CG 13:49:09 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:49:10 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:49:10 Liaisons 13:49:10 OPC Foundation start to launch next new WoT Companion specifications: OPC UA Binding for WoT 13:49:11 See also https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/collaboration-options.md#as-opc-ua-companion-standard-only 13:49:11 Statement of support - draft, resolution... 13:49:11 Statement draft for the OPC UA Foundation: 13:49:12 "As a W3C Web of Things Working Group (WoT), we are pleased that the new OPC Foundation working group will specify the OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things. We support these efforts and offer, for instance, through liaison meetings and/or running PlugFests, to ensure compliance with the latest Web of Things approaches (e.g., with WoT Binding 13:49:12 Templates). An official OPC UA Binding for the Web of Things provides a new opportunity for simplified integration of datapoints from OPC UA-based systems into IoT-based applications using latest Web technologies." 13:49:12 WoT Co-Chairs (Michael McCool (Intel), Sebastian Käbisch (Siemens), Michael Koster (Invited Expert)), W3C WoT team contact (Ashimura Kazuyuki), and W3C WoT WG members 13:49:13 NGSI-LD Simple Liaison 13:49:13 Contact: Kaz 13:49:13 Statement of Scope 13:49:14 Errata 13:49:14 (To review if Ege present, otherwise defer) 13:49:14 Policy proposal: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md 13:49:15 Proposed resolution: Adopt the policy at https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/policies/errata-management.md as a WoT WG policy. 13:49:15 Meeting Schedule Changes 13:49:15 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:49:16 Cancellations 13:49:16 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:49:16 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:49:17 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:49:17 Publication schedule 13:49:17 Milestones calculator 13:49:18 Schedule 13:49:18 F2F Planning 13:49:18 TPAC 2024 13:49:19 Registration Open 13:49:19 Early bird until 16 July 2024 13:49:19 Standard 1 September 2024 13:49:20 Late/on-site – starting 1 September 2024 13:49:20 Group meeting schedule 13:49:20 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:49:21 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:49:21 Call for Breakouts (Member-only) has been sent out 13:49:21 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:49:22 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:49:22 "WoT @ Industry Leadership Event" (Siemens) 13:49:22 Date: Nov 27 13:49:23 Location: Munich 13:49:23 Overlaps Münchner Christkindlmarkt 13:49:23 Recommended Hotel: Dorint Hotel Garching (81 euro/night) 13:49:24 Proposal 13:49:24 WoT F2F in November: Proposal 13:49:24 Nov 25-29 overall 13:49:25 Nov 25-26: (M-T) Plugfest 13:49:25 Nov 27 (W): WoT@Industry / OpenDay - party at night 13:49:25 Nov 28-29 (Th-F): F2F (WG) meetings (1.5 - short last day) 13:49:26 "Digital Twin" special topic on Nov 28? 13:49:26 Resources 13:49:27 Ontology files synchronization: https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/21 13:49:27 Versioning (see also Draft policy in TD repo) 13:49:27 Next Steps? 13:49:28 TF Leads 13:49:28 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:49:28 Security 13:49:29 Discovery 13:49:29 Any nominations? 13:49:29 Security work can be done in TFs for now 13:49:30 Prioritize finding a new Discovery TF lead 13:49:30 Other Topics 13:49:30 /Liaisons 13:49:31 /Collaborations 13:49:31 /Actions 13:49:31 TF Reports 13:49:32 Scripting 13:49:32 Security - suspended. 13:49:32 Discovery - suspended 13:49:33 Profile 13:49:33 Marketing 13:49:33 Use Cases 13:49:34 PlugFest/Testing - suspended 13:49:34 Thing Description/Binding Templates 13:49:34 Architecture - suspended 13:49:35 AOB? 13:49:35 12 June 2024 13:49:35 Cancelled 13:49:36 5 June 2024 13:49:36 Chair: Sebastian 13:49:36 Regrets: Koster 13:49:37 Scribe: McCool 13:49:37 Main Call Topics 13:49:37 Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 13:49:38 W3C Patent Policy 2020 for both the WoT-WG and the WoT-IG 13:49:38 Patent Policy FAQ - Q6 13:49:38 Membership classes and fees 13:49:39 New Members: none 13:49:39 New IE request: 13:49:39 two more pending 13:49:40 one response - asking for presentation template 13:49:40 need to schedule 10m for presentation in a future main call... 13:49:40 Minutes 13:49:41 May-29 13:49:41 Policy: https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/policies/minutes.md 13:49:41 Members should review minutes in advance of meeting. 13:49:42 Will immediately call for resolution to publish. 13:49:43 Will only open for review in the meeting if someone raises an issue. 13:49:43 NOTE: W3C minutes are installed on the W3C server and available as "https://www.w3.org/YYYY/MM/DD-wot-minutes.html" 13:49:43 Quick Items 13:49:44 Call for AC review (Member-only) sent out for the Draft Charter of Proposed Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG (deadline: July 3) - Please ask your AC to respond! 13:49:44 Notices (Informative) 13:49:44 OPC UA foundation released new companion specifications based on WoT Thing Description: OPC 10100-1 WOT Connectivity 13:49:45 Web resource: https://reference.opcfoundation.org/WoT/v100/docs/ 13:49:45 PDF: https://opcfoundation.org/developer-tools/documents/view/345 13:49:45 OPC Foundation start to launch next new WoT Companion specifications: OPC UA Binding for WoT 13:49:46 also see https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/liaisons/opcf/collaboration-options.md#as-opc-ua-companion-standard-only 13:49:46 Meetups (Information only) 13:49:46 WoT CG 13:49:47 Last meeting: Structural monitoring and digital twins: 13:49:47 https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/d4a1aa3f-a477-4877-8e11-32eb9075a186/ 13:49:47 Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtJ260RuiWY 13:49:48 Slides PR: https://github.com/w3c/wot-cg/pull/159 13:49:48 WoT JP CG 13:49:48 WoT Security event planning in progress 13:49:49 Currently collecting/summarizing UC&R feedback 13:49:49 Errata 13:49:49 (To review if Ege present, otherwise defer) 13:49:50 TD, Discovery, Architecture: 13:49:50 Linked PRs to remove automatic errata update mechanisms 13:49:50 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2023 13:49:51 https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/946 13:49:51 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/547 13:49:51 Policy proposal: https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1191 13:49:52 Meeting Schedule Changes 13:49:52 Holidays and Upcoming Events 13:49:52 Cancellations 13:49:53 PLEASE CHECK W3C CALENDAR FOR UPDATES 13:49:53 In general, wiki pages should *only* link to W3C Calendar and not replicate call-in information 13:49:53 Zoom call notification - W3C Calendar has been updated 13:49:54 Publication schedule 13:49:54 Milestones calculator 13:49:54 Schedule 13:49:55 F2F Planning 13:49:55 TPAC Group Meetings 13:49:55 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2024JanMar/0044.html - submitted 13:49:56 Draft group meeting schedule to be reviewed 13:49:56 Wiki for F2F 2024 planning 13:49:56 5 in-person, Thursday-Friday at 14:00-16:00, conflicts with MEIG and WebML 13:49:57 Possible Breakouts? 13:49:57 WoT Week Nov 25-29 13:49:57 Wiki for WoT Week 2024 planning 13:49:58 "WoT @ Industry Leadership Event" (Siemens) 13:49:58 Date: Nov 27 13:49:58 Location: Munich 13:49:59 Overlaps Münchner Christkindlmarkt 13:49:59 Recommended Hotel: Dorint Hotel Garching (81 euro/night) 13:49:59 Proposal 13:50:00 WoT F2F in November: Proposal 13:50:00 Nov 25-29 overall 13:50:00 Nov 25-26: (M-T) Plugfest 13:50:01 Nov 27 (W): WoT@Industry / OpenDay - party at night 13:50:01 Nov 28-29 (Th-F): F2F (WG) meetings (1.5 - short last day) 13:50:01 "Digital Twin" special topic on Nov 28? 13:50:02 Resources 13:50:02 Ontology files synchronization: https://github.com/w3c/wot-resources/pull/21 13:50:02 Versioning (see also Draft policy in TD repo) 13:50:03 Next Steps? 13:50:03 TF Leads 13:50:03 Following TFs are currently without leads, meetings suspended: 13:53:29 ### to here ### 13:53:39 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:53:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/11-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:57:29 JKRhb has joined #wot 15:01:26 EgeKorkan has joined #wot 15:04:09 bigbluehat has joined #wot 15:37:29 Zakim has left #wot 16:03:35 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot 16:04:10 EgeKorka_ has joined #wot