00:58:23 RRSAgent has joined #did 00:58:27 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-irc 00:59:43 Meeting: Decentralized Identifier Working Group, APAC, Dec 5, 2024 00:59:49 Chair: Gabe Cohen 01:00:08 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/2024Dec/0002.html 01:00:21 decentralgabe has changed the topic to: Topic: DID WG APAC Agenda 2024-12-05 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/2024Dec/0002.html 01:00:53 present+ 01:02:03 topic: Agenda Review, Introductions 01:02:19 present+ 01:05:29 present+ 01:05:44 scribe+ 01:06:13 decentralgabe: Anyone want to reintroduce yourself? 01:06:36 decentralgabe: We'll recap abstract data model call, did core issues, might end 10 minutes early. 01:06:44 decentralgabe: any additions to the call? 01:06:47 Topic: Abstract Data Model Discussion Summary 01:06:57 https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/855 01:07:12 decentralgabe: recap of last meeting, we discussed 855, simplifying abstract data model to be more concrete. We did pass a few resolutions. 01:07:26 Align DID Core with the Controller Document specification (https://www.w3.org/TR/controller-document/), and attempt to remove language around the Abstract Data Model. 01:07:34 decentralgabe: That was the first resolution 01:07:41 When profiling the Controller Document for the DID Document specification we will use JSON as a concrete representation, with language describing options for alternative representations. 01:07:41 decentralgabe: That one passed. 01:07:57 decentralgabe: That was the second resolution, that one passed as well. 01:08:06 decentralgabe: That was a good success. 01:08:11 I saw that we shared a common vision for broader inclusion of representations. Great to see things moving forward! 01:08:20 danpape has joined #did 01:08:33 decentralgabe: We plan on having a special topic call on alternate representations, mostly on extensions, that's a part of that discussion. PRs will clean up a lot of language in DID Core that aligns with these resolutions. 01:08:34 q+ 01:08:41 ack manu 01:08:50 present+ 01:09:28 manu: we had a call in the VCWG earlier in the week on the Controller Document spec and we were able to choose a new name, before Candidate Recommendation. Now we can pick a media type for that document. 01:10:10 ... that document can further align with those previous two resolutions (not using the ADM, etc.). We are starting to see some good alignment between the Controller Document spec -- now the 'Controllable Identifier Document' specification (CIDs), with DIDs on top of that. 01:10:19 ... things are aligning well! 01:10:28 topic: DID Core Issue Processing (Class 2) 01:10:36 decentralgabe: Ok, onto DID Core issue processing for class 2 changes. 01:11:51 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/170 01:11:53 decentralgabe: Let's go through these in least recently updated. 01:12:13 decentralgabe: This one opened by Mike Jones 4 years ago, comments two years ago. 01:12:28 decentralgabe: suggestion that there might not be an issue. 01:12:47 JennieM has joined #did 01:12:52 present+ 01:14:03 decentralgabe: Let's mark this as pending close 01:14:24 manu: Agree, this hasn't been an issue in 4 years and is unlikely to become one... kid/kty are different from id/type in JsonWebKey and Multikey. 01:14:29 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/370 01:15:34 decentralgabe: This one was opened by Adrian, four years ago. Suggestion to classify DIDs into Accountable and Voluntary categories. There doesn't seem to be consensus or concrete proposal, suggestion is to ask Adrian to write language and mark them as pending close. 01:15:37 manu: Agreed. 01:15:50 present+ danpape 01:15:55 present+denkeni 01:16:02 present+ jennie_Meier 01:16:02 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/530 01:16:06 present+ mashbean 01:16:10 present+ denkeni 01:16:49 decentralgabe: Suggestion for DIIPs by jonnycrunch, Manu suggested that other WGs don't really have these. I think that the process we have is sufficient, my inclination is to close this. 01:17:50 q? 01:17:55 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/539 01:17:57 manu: +1 to closing, the current process is to raise an issue, discuss in WG, then Pull Request, then merge if consensus. 01:18:00 +1 for it 01:18:21 decentralgabe: The section on herd privacy, what it means, how it applies to DIDs, good discussion here... 01:18:56 decentralgabe: Seems like we should discuss with Joe. Let's ask Joe if this could be closed. 01:19:50 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/798 01:21:39 manu: The WG is creating data models and APIs, which answers the question, we should mark it as pending close. 01:21:39 +1 01:21:55 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/821 01:23:39 manu: The group should discuss this, maybe special topic call? 01:23:46 decentralgabe: Yes, special topic call. 01:24:25 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/835 01:24:51 decentralgabe: This is broad, asking about verifiable credentials, and was answered. Marking as pending close. 01:24:51 +1 special topic call, i remember there was a discussion about whether DID should be align with URI or not 01:24:53 manu: Agreed 01:25:24 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/837 01:26:06 decentralgabe: This is reminiscent of a controller / subject discussion we had in VCWG. 01:26:46 manu: There was a big discussion in controller-document about this. Joe has written a lot of language around this. 01:27:21 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/839 01:27:49 decentralgabe: This is about how to specify multisig -- need to clarify? 01:28:19 decentralgabe: Doesn't say where logic is defined, keep open and improve language. 01:28:22 +1 01:28:24 manu: Yes, that sounds good. 01:29:40 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/844 01:30:37 decentralgabe: This is vague, let's see if they can provide more input. 01:30:59 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/847 01:31:26 decentralgabe: This is another path parameter thing. 01:31:30 present+ JennieM 01:31:37 present-jennie_Meier 01:31:41 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/849 01:31:42 present- jennie_Meier 01:32:43 decentralgabe: This is about service endpoints, Markus has responded, spec registries could e used to help. My instinct is to ask for an update or PR or concrete text. 01:33:03 manu: yes, let's ask them what they want to see. 01:33:29 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/802 01:34:37 decentralgabe: This is another one that was covered in the VCWG in the controllable identifier document specification. 01:34:50 JennieM has joined #did 01:35:04 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/803 01:35:07 manu: Yep, agreed -- Ivan had concerns, I think we addressed them with PRs in VCWG. 01:35:49 decentralgabe: difference is concrete representation vs. abstract one. Marking this as pending close. 01:37:28 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/805 01:40:08 decentralgabe: Improving readability is a good goal, hopefully we can take a shot at improving readability. 01:40:14 +1 for ready for PR 01:41:33 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/812 01:43:58 manu: We probably need to specify a more complete example, updated to show verificationMethods. 01:45:07 decentralgabe: want to cover DID Resolution or keep going? 01:45:09 subtopic: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/831 01:47:09 decentralgabe: long discussion, some agreement w/ Joe's clarification. Sounds like language could be made more clear, but took a bit to understand that what they want is supported. Probably room for improvements. 01:48:02 manu: Maybe ready for PR 01:48:12 decentralgabe: I'm going to tag Joe since he seems to understand what language might be good here. 01:48:17 manu: We might need to move it to CID spec. 01:49:09 decentralgabe: We got through all of those issues. 01:49:18 decentralgabe: Anything else you'd like to discuss? 01:49:33 No other issues. 01:49:39 Thanks! 01:50:33 rrsagent, make minutes 01:50:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-minutes.html decentralgabe 01:50:37 zakim, end the meeting 01:50:37 As of this point the attendees have been shigeya, denkeni, manu, danpape, JennieM, jennie_Meier, mashbean 01:50:39 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 01:50:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-minutes.html Zakim 01:50:43 I am happy to have been of service, decentralgabe; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 01:50:43 m2gbot, link issues with transcript 01:50:43 Something wrong happened: Failed loading minutes from https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-minutes.html 01:50:47 Zakim has left #did 01:50:54 m2gbot, link issues with transcript 01:50:54 Something wrong happened: Failed loading minutes from https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-minutes.html 01:51:40 rrsagent, please excuse us 01:51:50 rrsagent, make logs public 01:51:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:51:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/12/06-did-minutes.html manu 01:52:08 m2gbot, link issues with transcript 01:52:09 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/170#issuecomment-2521914437 01:52:10 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/370#issuecomment-2521914460 01:52:11 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/530#issuecomment-2521914478 01:52:12 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/539#issuecomment-2521914492 01:52:13 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/798#issuecomment-2521914507 01:52:14 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/821#issuecomment-2521914522 01:52:15 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/835#issuecomment-2521914535 01:52:16 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/837#issuecomment-2521914550 01:52:17 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/839#issuecomment-2521914572 01:52:18 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/844#issuecomment-2521914581 01:52:19 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/847#issuecomment-2521914600 01:52:20 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/849#issuecomment-2521914615 01:52:21 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/802#issuecomment-2521914629 01:52:22 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/803#issuecomment-2521914642 01:52:23 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/805#issuecomment-2521914657 01:52:24 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/812#issuecomment-2521914674 01:52:25 comment created: https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/831#issuecomment-2521914694 01:53:36 decentralgabe has joined #did 01:53:44 decentralgabe has joined #did 01:54:08 decentralgabe has joined #did 01:58:43 love that tech too lol 02:17:45 decentralgabe has joined #did 03:00:15 decentralgabe has joined #did 04:25:41 decentralgabe has joined #did 04:54:58 decentralgabe has joined #did 05:14:27 decentralgabe has joined #did 05:29:25 decentralgabe has joined #did 05:42:41 decentralgabe has joined #did 06:12:24 decentralgabe has joined #did 09:00:17 decentralgabe has joined #did 09:25:10 decentralgabe has joined #did 09:41:36 decentralgabe has joined #did 10:00:23 decentralgabe has joined #did 10:16:58 decentralgabe has joined #did 10:35:55 decentralgabe has joined #did 10:53:35 decentralgabe has joined #did 11:12:31 decentralgabe has joined #did 11:22:03 decentralgabe has joined #did 12:30:21 decentralgabe has joined #did 12:48:48 decentralgabe has joined #did 13:03:32 decentralgabe has joined #did 13:20:34 decentralgabe has joined #did 13:37:44 decentralgabe has joined #did 14:16:07 decentralgabe has joined #did 14:40:28 decentralgabe has joined #did 15:04:40 decentralgabe has joined #did 15:09:34 TallTed has joined #did 15:13:24 decentralgabe has joined #did 15:31:02 decentralgabe has joined #did 16:00:42 decentralgabe has joined #did