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13:03:49 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG/IG
13:04:14 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Martin_Schlaffer
13:04:17 <jthomas> present+ Josh_Thomas
13:04:21 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
13:04:37 <kaz> present+ Charith_Perera, Michael_Koster, Kunihiko_Toumura
13:04:47 <kaz> present+ Luca_Barbato, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:04:51 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:04:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:05:24 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
13:05:46 <luca_barbato> scribenick+ luca_barbato
13:06:00 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian, Ege
13:06:26 <luca_barbato> topic: Guests and New Members
13:06:37 <luca_barbato> mm: We have a guest and a new member
13:06:59 <luca_barbato> ... introduce Martin Schlaffer
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13:07:10 <luca_barbato> ms: I introduced myself last week
13:07:26 <luca_barbato> mm: Any objections in having Martin as guest?
13:07:33 <luca_barbato> <no objections>
13:07:58 <luca_barbato> topic: Minutes
13:08:17 <luca_barbato> mm : <goes over the minutes>
13:08:38 <kaz> i|goes|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/11/13-wot-minutes.html Nov-13|
13:10:12 <kaz> i|Any|(Martin joined the Plugfest call on Oct 23, but this is his first time to join the main call)|
13:10:30 <luca_barbato> mm: Any objections to publish?
13:10:32 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:10:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:10:40 <kaz> q+
13:10:40 <luca_barbato> <no objections>
13:11:32 <luca_barbato> kaz: A quick introduction from Martin might be good since it is his first time in main call
13:12:28 <luca_barbato> topic: Quick Items
13:12:34 <luca_barbato> mm: Any quick items?
13:12:55 <luca_barbato> topic: Notices?
13:13:05 <luca_barbato> mm: Any new upcoming events?
13:13:16 <luca_barbato> topic: Meetups
13:13:45 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#20_November_2024
13:13:49 <Martin> Martin has joined #wot
13:13:53 <luca_barbato> mm: I couldn't attend, I hope there were recordings
13:13:58 <luca_barbato> lu: There were
13:14:08 <luca_barbato> mm: I hope somebody could provide links to them
13:14:24 <luca_barbato> mm: Anything else on the wot cg?
13:14:31 <luca_barbato> mm: Anything else on the wot jp cg?
13:14:40 <kaz> q+
13:14:53 <luca_barbato> mm: Any update regarding smart cities?
13:14:54 <kaz> q-
13:15:01 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'll send a report about it
13:15:42 <luca_barbato> mm: For the cloud edge client there is a new announcement
13:15:54 <luca_barbato> ... and they are asking for supporters
13:16:37 <kaz> s/send a report/send out a doodle poll to identify the regular call slot today. The purpose of the call should be confirming the direction and deliverables based on the Charter./
13:16:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:16:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:17:19 <luca_barbato> ... I'm involved in the group and there is some overlap with WoT
13:17:24 <kaz> i/I couldn't attend/subtopic: WoT CG/
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13:17:36 <luca_barbato> topic: Liasons
13:17:47 <kaz> i/Anything else on the wot jp cg/subtopic: WoT JP CG/
13:18:01 <kaz> i/regarding sma/subtopic: Smart Cities/
13:18:17 <kaz> i/For the cl/subtopic: Cloud Edge Client CG/
13:18:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:18:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:18:41 <luca_barbato> mm: for ETSI, we decided to cancel the next meeting since it is overlaps with the PlugFest
13:19:29 <kaz> s/it is o/it o/
13:20:11 <kaz> i/ETSI/subtopic: ETSI ISG CIM/
13:20:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:20:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:20:58 <luca_barbato> mm: kaz anything new about ETSI?
13:21:02 <luca_barbato> kaz: No
13:21:09 <Martin> Hi everybody, my name is Martin Schlaffer (martin.schlaffer@mbbm-vas.com) and I'm working for https://www.mbbm-vas.com/, a small Munich company developing NVH hard- and software, mainly for automotive industry. I'm currently working on a new edge framework. When I had to solve the problem of generic semantic modeling of the data stream, I came
13:21:09 <Martin> across WoT TD and have now used it in a first implementation. I saw that you were organizing a Plugfest and spontaneously asked Sebastian if I could join to take the opportunity to discuss whether I had understood and implemented the concept correctly.
13:21:36 <kaz> @@@ Kaz to move the above intro to the guest section :)
13:21:57 <luca_barbato> mm: During the face-to-face meeting we could have a slot to discuss the liason for ETSI and OPC
13:21:58 <kaz> q+
13:22:07 <kaz> q-
13:22:19 <luca_barbato> topic: Schedules
13:22:44 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays/Cancellations
13:23:31 <luca_barbato> mm: I'll be unavailable Dec 13 - Jan 2
13:23:59 <luca_barbato> mm: Do we have the Use Case call Dec 18 ?
13:24:14 <luca_barbato> tm: It is ok to cancel it
13:24:30 <kaz> Cancelled Dec 18 (as well as Dec 25 and Jan 1)
13:25:05 <kaz> q+
13:25:29 <luca_barbato> mm: I have a PR to update the schedule for Use Case
13:25:47 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1210/files
13:26:12 <kaz> i|I have a PR|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/planning/schedule.md schedule.md|
13:27:02 <kaz> q?
13:27:59 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'm ok with PR itself, but it should be clarified if that is done as UC TF
13:28:30 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1210/files|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1210 wot PR 1210 - Update schedule.md (updates on UCR note)|
13:28:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:28:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:28:44 <kaz> q-
13:29:21 <kaz> s/but it should be clarified if that is done as UC TF/but we should clarify the roles of the UC TF and the TD TF a bit/
13:30:16 <luca_barbato> the UC TF will accept for now only user-stories, new use-cases only if needed to support the user-stories
13:30:25 <kaz> i|Holidays|subtopic: Meeting schedule|
13:30:32 <luca_barbato> in March we'll start external use-case submission
13:30:40 <kaz> i|schedule.md|subtopic: Publication schedule|
13:31:24 <luca_barbato> mm: Objections to merge?
13:31:28 <luca_barbato> <no objections>
13:31:49 <kaz> s/the UC TF/mm: the UC TF/
13:31:56 <kaz> s/in March/... in March/
13:32:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:32:10 <luca_barbato> mm: Ege mentioned that the TD deadlines need to be updated as well
13:32:23 <luca_barbato> topic: F2F planning
13:32:41 <kaz> q+
13:33:00 <luca_barbato> q+
13:33:37 <luca_barbato> mm: <goes over the agenda>
13:34:12 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week agenda wiki
13:35:27 <luca_barbato> mm: Is anybody leaving on Friday before 4pm ?
13:37:35 <kaz> q?
13:37:43 <luca_barbato> q-
13:37:59 <luca_barbato> mm: Anything add to the Agenda?
13:38:31 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'm fine with the agenda, it is possible to have a report from ECHONET
13:38:32 <kaz> regrets- Sebastian
13:38:36 <kaz> regrets- Ege
13:39:37 <EgeKorkan> q+
13:39:46 <kaz> q-
13:39:48 <luca_barbato> kaz: Who is expected and allowed to register for the wed meeting
13:39:49 <McCool> ack k
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13:40:19 <luca_barbato> ege: For the wed meeting, who wants to attend needs to register to get an access badge
13:40:21 <kaz> q+
13:40:38 <luca_barbato> mm: It is an open event
13:41:13 <sebastian> q+
13:41:18 <luca_barbato> ... who has been invited, please register asap
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13:42:07 <luca_barbato> seb: We have two events: PlugFest and the Open event, they need two different registration
13:42:12 <kaz> ack Ege
13:42:29 <luca_barbato> seb: Please make sure to fill the registration form
13:42:51 <luca_barbato> mm: Also Microsoft has badge control for Friday
13:43:08 <luca_barbato> seb: We'll ask during the PlugFest call
13:44:40 <kaz> q?
13:44:53 <sebastian> ack seb
13:45:26 <luca_barbato> q+
13:45:38 <kaz> ack k
13:45:54 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan, Sebastian_Kaebisch
13:46:06 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
13:46:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:46:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:46:33 <luca_barbato> kaz: We could stop this meeting early and start the PlugFest call at the start of the hour instead of having 5 minutes delay
13:46:36 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:46:54 <kaz> s/at the start of/at the top of/
13:47:14 <luca_barbato> topic: Other topics
13:47:37 <luca_barbato> ege: We made progress on the initial Connection and we'll discuss it today and test on PlugFest
13:47:53 <kaz> i/We made/subtopic: TD/
13:48:44 <luca_barbato> subtopic: OPC UA
13:48:50 <McCool> q?
13:48:52 <McCool> ack l
13:49:09 <luca_barbato> seb: We do not have the bindings ready-ready, but we'll discuss more on the PlugFest call
13:50:03 <kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts in 10 mins]
13:50:19 <kaz> s/10 mins/10 mins (=at the top of the hour)/
13:50:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:50:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:09:22 <Martin> Could you then please set me on the e-mailing list, too? martin.schlaffer@mbbm-vas.com
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14:27:58 <EgeKorkan> sk: There are a lot of places to sit if you are just an observer
14:28:59 <EgeKorkan> mm: Is there a Zoom link that can be used?
14:29:19 <EgeKorkan> sk: There is MS Teams available in the room
14:29:32 <EgeKorkan> kaz: Can the remote participants use Teams?
14:30:14 <EgeKorkan> mm: a calendar invite with teams link would be nice
14:30:16 <EgeKorkan> q+
14:30:48 <EgeKorkan> q-
14:32:15 <EgeKorkan> ek: It would be the best if everyone tests team
14:32:39 <EgeKorkan> sk: we have rooms booked for people to sit in different rooms to do focused work
14:34:36 <EgeKorkan> sk: there will be 80-100 people attending and also the press will be there
14:36:09 <EgeKorkan> kaz: We should add information about who have registered to the event
14:38:02 <EgeKorkan> kaz: Should we make the registration public to all?
14:38:14 <EgeKorkan> sk: yes, the wiki is public anyways. The page is also public
14:38:24 <EgeKorkan> kaz: You said it should not be made public right?
14:38:33 <EgeKorkan> sk: yes but not anymore. We have some places left still
14:39:33 <EgeKorkan> kaz: So first come first serve?
14:39:37 <EgeKorkan> sk: Yes
14:40:45 <kaz> [Kaz to copy the content above to the wot-pf channel ]
14:45:08 <kaz> s/So first come first serve?/wanted to know the change before hand... anyway, you'll accept the applicants fist-come, first-serve basis. right?/
14:45:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:45:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/20-wot-minutes.html kaz
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