IRC log of adapt on 2024-11-12
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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- Meeting: WAI-Adapt Teleconference
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- Date: 12 Nov 2024
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- Chair: Lionel_Wolberger
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- agenda+ Introduction, logistics, updates as needed
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- agenda+ Symbols (Issue 240)
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- agenda+ Well Known Destinations
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- agenda+ Recruitment
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Introduction, logistics, updates as needed -- taken up [from janina]
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- agenda?
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- agenda?
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
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- janina: We are considering a face to face meeting, London seems a good choice in reasonable reach of most task force members
- 15:11:00 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... as discussed, a face-to-face is a chance to get a lot of work done
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- ... pre-covid the F2F meetings were more common
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- Lionel: Sponsorship logistics require (a) pencilling in a date (b) a space
- 15:17:33 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... We have possibilities for spaces in London area
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- janina: Sponsor usually supplies the food during working hours as well
- 15:19:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- .. we could invite other people who are nearby
- 15:22:58 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... we want to avoid Easter 20 April and Passover
- 15:23:14 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... so we are narrowing in on late April, early May
- 15:23:37 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Annalu: The prices go down as well after Easter.
- 15:27:37 [janina]
- RESOLVED: Adapt will tentatively meet either 28-30 April or 4-6 May
- 15:28:24 [matatk]
- agenda?
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- agenda?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Symbols (Issue 240) -- taken up [from janina]
- 15:29:30 [matatk]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html matatk
- 15:45:50 [janina]
- Lionel_Wolberger:Russell has demonstrated fonts
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- q+ to ask about keys
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- s/ger:R/ger: R/
- 15:46:29 [janina]
- Lionel_Wolberger: Will it be a problem for symbols at the typical 10pt font size?
- 15:46:39 [janina]
- Russell: Yes, at 10pts
- 15:46:49 [matatk]
- s/demonstrated fonts/demonstrated the creation of a font based on SVG symbols (derived in this case from a bitmap image)/
- 15:46:58 [matatk]
- This is awesome work, Russell; thank you!
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html matatk
- 15:47:46 [janina]
- Lionel_Wolberger: Indiscernability at small font sizes not a blocker because symbols font can be rendered at any size
- 15:47:55 [Annalu]
- q+ comment on fonts
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- present+
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- present+
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- scribe+ janina
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html matatk
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- Janina: Text around the AAC can still be a different font size than the AAC font itself
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- q?
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- ack me
- 15:49:27 [Zakim]
- matatk, you wanted to ask about keys
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
- 15:49:53 [janina]
- matatk: Fantastic, Russell!
- 15:50:25 [Russell]
- q+
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- matatk: WHAT believes combined code points can be rendered with fonts as well--but how?
- 15:50:47 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- matatk: How do we annotate with multiple code points? Can a font support that?
- 15:51:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Annalu: The number of individual symbols is huge
- 15:51:07 [matatk]
- s/WHAT b/WHATWG b/
- 15:51:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... if rendering in font, every symbol will require a separate glyph
- 15:51:29 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- ... the sheer number of items is likely underestimated by most people
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- q+
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- ack comment
- 15:53:01 [Zakim]
- comment, you wanted to comment on fonts
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- ack Russell
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- ack com
- 15:54:03 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Lionel_Wolberger: Related to Annalu's comment, search is not implemented on fonts. It is there for emojis, or Bliss Symbols, but not font glyphs
- 15:54:37 [Annalu]
- Sorting is a HUGE issue and I know the Bliss sorting has taken ages to do.
- 15:55:44 [Lionel_Wolberger]
- Russell: A demo of the Bliss - via - Unicode approach would really help
- 15:57:43 [matatk]
- ack me
- 15:57:49 [matatk]
- I started this wiki page, where we can catalogue practical examples. It's missing almost everything - the idea is to have headings for each thing we want to demonstrate. Can we edit this in order to add in the test cases we're gong to need to make? It should be a minimal set (so we're done when it's all filled in) but also sufficient to
- 15:57:49 [matatk]
- demonstrate/test our concerns: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Symbols-implementation-tests
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Annalu, Russell, matatk
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/12-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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