13:01:08 RRSAgent has joined #wot 13:01:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-irc 13:01:32 dezell has joined #wot 13:01:36 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 13:01:54 present+ David_Ezell 13:02:46 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:03:00 present+ Ege_Korkan 13:03:04 rrsagent, make log public 13:03:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:03:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:03:25 Mizushima has joined #wot 13:03:40 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#6_November_2024 13:04:09 present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda 13:04:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:04:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:04:31 chair: McCool 13:05:11 luca_barbato has joined #wot 13:05:21 dezell has joined #wot 13:05:39 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch, Luca_Barbato 13:06:15 matsuda has joined #wot 13:07:10 scribenick: EgeKorkan 13:08:14 q+ 13:08:40 q- 13:08:45 mm: McCool met with Charith Perera on Nov 4 13:08:59 i/McCool/topic: Guests, IEs/ 13:09:00 ... will try to join plugfest and some calls 13:09:04 topic: Minutes 13:09:11 mm: chairs are ok with them. Any other changes? 13:09:13 s/will/He will/ 13:09:29 i|chair|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-minutes.html Oct-30| 13:09:49 Present+ Josh_Thomas 13:10:07 mm: seems not to be the case 13:10:17 topic: Quick Items 13:10:21 mm: Anyone? 13:10:47 topics: Notices 13:10:49 mm: Anyone? 13:11:04 topic: Meetups 13:11:11 subtopic: WoT CG 13:11:48 ek: two meetups are scheduled and they will bring those to the plugfest as well 13:12:05 -> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/27ccdd67-4ad6-476b-bdc2-b1b48da1995b/ Nov-14 13:12:14 mm: ok so these are the wot cg meetups. 13:12:19 i|ok|-> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6373e85a-936c-4c9e-8db4-919a9fcc5635/ Nov-18| 13:12:21 mm: would be nice to have one past event 13:13:08 scribe+ 13:14:08 ek: (shows Marketing updates about WoT adopters) 13:14:30 s/adopters/adopters on his local PC/ 13:15:09 dezell2 has joined #wot 13:15:09 q+ 13:15:51 mm: the detail to be discussed during the Marketing call tomorrow 13:16:17 kaz: will give comments during the Marketing call then :) 13:16:29 subtopic: WoT JP CG 13:16:33 mm: anything? 13:16:38 q+ 13:16:40 tm: not really 13:16:46 subtopic: Smart Cities IG 13:17:25 kaz: I am collecting additional participants. We will send a doodle poll to find a suitable slot for monthly meeting 13:17:42 q+ 13:17:49 mm: I need AC rep approval 13:17:55 ack k 13:17:56 ack m 13:18:00 i|I am collecting|scribenick: EgeKorkan| 13:18:03 q- 13:18:49 subtopic: Cloud-Edge-Client CG 13:19:06 mm: we are working on the charter. It is an "in-progress" CG 13:19:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:19:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:19:48 topic: Liaisons 13:19:54 subtopic: OPC UA 13:20:15 mm: they share the JSON Schema for security configurations. We will see if we can adapt 13:20:49 ... Security was the main topic of discussion 13:21:47 ... the conclusion was that the metadata in the TD should be as close as possible to the OPC UA specs metadata 13:22:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:22:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:23:38 ... we need to separate the protocol specific securities 13:23:43 q+ 13:24:03 q- 13:24:04 ... so that we do not need to publish a new REC 13:24:58 kaz: when will the security discussions take place? Maybe Charif? 13:25:16 s/Charif/Charith/ 13:25:35 mm: he is not an expert but did security. I think he should contribute to some specs first, then we can give him specific responsability 13:25:47 kaz: so it can be done in the TD call? 13:26:00 mm: yes, I have told him to join the TD call 13:26:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:26:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:26:51 cris has joined #wot 13:26:57 q+ 13:27:32 sebastian has joined #wot 13:28:03 present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi 13:28:06 sk: OPC UA people will join the plugfest discussion as well 13:28:16 ... they need information on vpn etc. as well 13:29:06 kaz: should we invite them to the plugfest call? 13:29:26 mm: it would be good. At least Erich would be there but we should agree on a list of discussion items 13:29:41 s/the plugfest call/our WoT Plugfests at some point/ 13:29:57 q- 13:30:11 mm: we should allocate at least 15-30 mins 13:30:16 mm: anything else? 13:30:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:30:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:30:28 subtopic: ETSI 13:30:38 mm: I have a PR 13:30:46 s/anything/kaz: Please continue to talk with them :)/ 13:30:56 i/Please/scribenick: kaz/ 13:30:57 ... we have a wiki and a repo 13:31:06 i/anything/scribenick: EgeKorkan/ 13:31:08 ... we need to figure out what resources we want to collect 13:31:46 i|I have a PR|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-ngsi-ld dedicated "wot-ngsi-ld" GitHub Repository| 13:32:49 proposal: merge wot PR#1209, which activates the description of the active ETSI ISG CIM liaison. 13:33:00 mm: any objections? 13:33:22 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1209 PR 1209 - Activate Liaison for ETSI ISG CIM for NGSI-LD 13:33:45 resolution: merge wot PR#1209, which activates the description of the active ETSI ISG CIM liaison, subject to ETSI participant's approval. 13:33:49 q+ 13:34:14 ack k 13:34:18 kaz: what about the content? 13:34:31 mm: we will discuss it in the call but it can be presentations etc. 13:34:37 ... it is empty at the moment 13:34:49 s/content/content for the new "wot-ngsi-ld" repo/ 13:34:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:34:58 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:35:21 ek: the binding can be there. Would be a good message to show that it can be in another reo 13:35:25 s/reo/repo 13:35:46 s/kaz: Please continue to talk with them :)/anything/ 13:35:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:35:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:36:15 topic: Cancellations 13:36:18 i|anything else?|kaz: Please continue to talk with them :)| 13:36:25 mm: there is thanksgiving during wot week 13:36:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:36:51 i|anything else?|scribenick: EgeKorkan| 13:36:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:36:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:37:17 ek: we can celebrate it here :) 13:37:26 i|there is|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Holidays_and_Upcoming_Events Holidays and Events| 13:37:28 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:37:29 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:37:50 topic: WoT Week 13:37:57 sk: let's discuss this in the next hour 13:38:08 mm: we should discuss the F2F Agenda 13:38:15 s/here :)/here in Munich :)/ 13:38:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:38:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:38:32 mm: it would be good to update the liaisons on the registry 13:38:53 i|let's discuss|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning WoT Week Wiki| 13:38:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:39:00 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:39:25 q+ 13:39:32 ... I guess Ege can handle this 13:39:52 dape has joined #wot 13:39:59 preent+ Daniel_Peintner 13:40:31 q+ 13:40:37 mm: other points? 13:41:38 mm: we have europe, us and japan at the same time 13:42:06 ... it will be tricky to find one 13:42:32 sk: something in the afternoon 13:42:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:42:53 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:42:59 ack k 13:42:59 ack e 13:43:02 ek: can you add "working with the CG" kind of slot? 13:43:13 mm: it will be a new category I guess 13:44:21 topic: Policies 13:44:37 mm: to be discussed during the next WoT Chairs call 13:44:44 i/to be/scribenick: kaz/ 13:44:49 scribenick: EgeKorkan 13:44:51 topic: TF Leads 13:45:06 mm: most TFs should do reorg work 13:45:32 mm: regarding use cases, I have joined the TD call and we spent it on the use cases 13:45:38 mm: we wrote two User Stories 13:45:59 ... also we met with Ege and reached in conclusion and we are in a basic agreememnt 13:46:10 ... we wrote some simple minutes and documented in the PR in the TD repo 13:46:23 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/2053#issuecomment-2459671352 13:46:40 mm: I don't want to have a UC&R document to be difficult to maintain 13:47:04 s/regarding use cases/regarding use cases discussion/ 13:47:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:47:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:47:45 s/preent/present/ 13:47:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:47:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:48:41 ek: make sure to join tomorrow's TD call on this 13:48:56 q+ 13:49:13 topic: TF Updates 13:49:41 ek: we made progress on the initial connection and registry requirements. We will go back to that today 13:49:58 q+ 13:50:03 ack c 13:50:04 ack c 13:50:27 cris: I have updated the calendar regarding the scripting api slot 13:50:37 ... next meeting is on wednesday next week 13:51:25 i|we made|subtopic: TD| 13:51:33 i|I have|subtopic: Scripting| 13:51:36 ack k 13:51:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:51:41 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:51:48 topic: AOB 13:51:48 kaz: we should move the liaisons topics and links 13:51:52 mm: some of them are quite stale 13:52:05 s/move/reorganize/ 13:52:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:52:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:55:36 mm: We also have the collaboration pages that are not maintained at all 13:55:50 ... similarly, we have action items. It is also stale 13:56:59 mm: any other business? 13:57:26 (none) 13:57:31 [adjourned] 13:57:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:57:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/06-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:00:18 fady has joined #wot 14:01:02 fsalama has joined #wot 14:01:18 fady has left #wot 14:23:32 JKRhb has joined #wot 16:16:11 Zakim has left #wot