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15:02:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
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15:03:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
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15:03:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, start meeting
15:03:38 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:03:42 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
15:03:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Title: Adapt Weekly Teleconference 5 November
15:04:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Introductions. Updates.
15:04:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Symbols
15:04:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Well Known Destinations
15:04:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Recruitment
15:04:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:04:51 <Roy_Ruoxi> present+
15:07:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
15:07:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:07:12 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introductions. Updates. -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:07:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
15:07:47 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:07:48 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:07:48 <Zakim> 2. Symbols [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:07:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:07:51 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Symbols -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:08:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Russel
15:08:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
15:08:17 <Zakim> Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Roy_Ruoxi, Russel
15:08:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, Russell, RRSAgent, gb, Roy_Ruoxi
15:08:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ janina
15:08:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
15:08:29 <Zakim> Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Roy_Ruoxi, Russel, janina
15:08:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, Russell, RRSAgent, gb, Roy_Ruoxi
15:08:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> Russell: Update on the font conversion work
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15:09:31 <janina> present+
15:09:35 <janina> scribe+
15:09:46 <janina> regrets+ Matthew
15:10:10 <janina> Russell: Continue to work on fot port issues ...
15:10:51 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Can you share screen with how you're approaching? Want to understand
15:11:03 <janina> Russell: Not an overly heavy time commitment.
15:11:16 <janina> Russell: Have imported SVG graphs;
15:11:46 <janina> Russell: Traditionally one creates an outline font; a default way of working
15:12:02 <janina> Russell: That's now how we'd be using SVG
15:12:22 <janina> Russell: Probably my lack of experience using the tool
15:12:59 <janina> Russell: Not yet much to see
15:14:53 <janina> Russell: not planning to purchase commercial tools but use open source, though people I'd speak with in industry would be using commercial
15:15:28 <janina> Russell: Most now are SVG
15:16:01 <janina> Russell: Symbols vendors tend not to think open source; they're mostly closed systems with dedicated hardware and other closed approaches
15:16:19 <janina> Russell: They need to be robust for users who are not destrous
15:16:32 <janina> Russell: They sell these for $8-$10K USD
15:17:13 <janina> Russell: Provide full solution and even help users obtain hardware through public support sources
15:17:41 <janina> Russell: An available font freely available for them could be problematic for that model
15:18:32 <janina> janina: Do these vendors even support web browsing?
15:18:33 <janina> Russell: No
15:19:46 <janina> Russell: Recall a system that provided access to MS Windows that was bought and shutdown
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15:21:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: proposing, we should focus on those symbols that could be shared widely, and are useable in a browser
15:22:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... symbol sets that are not available can be seen as out of our scope
15:22:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/05-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
15:29:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> Russell: I should have something to send over the public list this week.
15:30:03 <janina> Russell: No longer believe detail of symbols will be an issue given SVG
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15:46:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
15:46:39 <Zakim> Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Roy_Ruoxi, Russel, janina
15:46:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, janina, Zakim, Russell, RRSAgent, gb, Roy_Ruoxi
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15:46:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:46:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
15:46:58 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Well Known Destinations -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:48:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: I see two types of well known destinations
15:49:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... one is more fixed in nature, like a home page, accessibility statement, global help page
15:51:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... there are other kinds of more optional destinations, like a page for security, contacting board members, restaurant reservations
15:55:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Security is already a well known destination in the .wellknown specification
15:56:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: and it is documented somewhere
15:56:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: That is a page that is constant across the entire site
15:56:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... booking a hotel room is more website-specific, or booking an appointment, these kinds of pages are not as good candidates for well known URL
16:02:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Clarifying what Abhinav is saying
16:02:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... There is a global taxonomy of web pages, that identifies some as well known, such as home page
16:03:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this global taxaonomy is already addressed, implicitly, by the IETF wellknown implementation
16:03:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... on the other hand, there are local taxonomies defined implicitly by websites
16:04:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... a restaurant may have ordering pages, a website for a ecommerce site may have a shipping page and so on
16:04:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... That is the two types of well known destinations
16:04:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and is Abhinav is saying that each type of taxonomy may have a different implementation under our specification/best practices guide
16:05:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... e.g., linksets may be ideal for the local taxonomy
16:05:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
16:05:22 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Roy_Ruoxi, Russel, janina, Abhinav
16:05:23 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:05:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/11/05-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
16:05:30 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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