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12:56:21 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest
12:56:25 <kaz> chair: Sebastian
12:57:18 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Larry_Robinson, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Michael_Koster, Jan_Romann, Josh_Thomas, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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12:58:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
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12:58:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
12:59:20 <kaz> present+ Denis_Ioan
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13:01:49 <McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agendas
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13:01:59 <McCool> scribenick: McCool
13:02:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:02:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:02:10 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell'
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13:02:39 <jthomas> present+ Josh_Thomas
13:02:50 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#30_October_2024
13:03:13 <kaz> present+ Ege_Korkan
13:04:00 <McCool> topic: minutes review
13:04:08 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2024/10/23-wot-pf-minutes.html
13:04:25 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
13:04:31 <kaz> s/html/html Oct-23/
13:04:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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13:05:52 <McCool> seb: some small typo corrections...
13:06:26 <McCool> seb: any objection to publishing?
13:07:05 <McCool> seb: no objections - will be published
13:07:36 <kaz> present+ Mahda_Noura
13:07:37 <McCool> topic: agenda for WoT Week/Plugfest
13:08:03 <McCool> seb: will start at 9am on Monday... see https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning#Agenda_%28Draft%29
13:08:13 <McCool> ... will provide lunch and coffee
13:08:26 <McCool> ... will also be a small lab tour
13:08:48 <kaz> present- David_Ezell'
13:09:02 <McCool> ... will go until 6pm, then have a visit to the Xmas market and dinner at 7pm
13:09:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:09:25 <McCool> ... dinner tbc, not sponsored
13:09:39 <McCool> ... similar schedule for Tuesday, w/o lab tour
13:10:12 <McCool> ... Wed will be "conference" day, see registration link on wiki
13:10:41 <McCool> ... please do register, Siemens will be sponsoring various things and would like to have a head count
13:11:31 <McCool> ... currently have about 20 places left, now open to the public, first-come-first-served at this point
13:12:51 <McCool> mm: note that list of topics on Thursday will be reorganized later; question marks means we still need confirmation
13:13:08 <McCool> seb: for plugfest, are now organizing attendees
13:13:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:13:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:13:28 <McCool> ... we need also to understand how many demos we have, and who will give them
13:13:43 <McCool> ... want to know who will want a table, there are limited number of spaces
13:14:10 <McCool> ... so far I have allocated tables for Siemens and TUM
13:15:20 <McCool> ... TUM has a robot
13:15:25 <dezell> q+
13:15:31 <McCool> seb: McCool, you will be remote?
13:16:01 <McCool> mm: plan an AI service based on Frigate, need to pair with someone for demo
13:16:15 <McCool> josh: I can hook up with IP cameras
13:16:55 <kaz> q+
13:17:11 <dezell> ack d
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13:17:39 <McCool> seb: still trying to find out how big the tables are
13:17:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:17:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:18:22 <kaz> s/agenda for WoT/Agenda and Logistics for WoT/
13:18:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:18:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:18:45 <McCool> seb: so will put McCool, ArmorSafe, and IP camera from Ignite on one table
13:18:56 <kaz> present+ Fady_Salama
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13:19:40 <ktoumura> +q
13:19:40 <McCool> seb: and also a demo from UC Dublin, may be shared
13:20:09 <McCool> kaz: two questions
13:20:18 <McCool> ... no only agenda, but also logistics?
13:22:05 <McCool> ... these tables are a good starting point...
13:22:14 <McCool> ... maybe have a different format
13:22:28 <McCool> ... maybe a per-table description
13:23:05 <McCool> seb: for now just grouping so can figure out the number of tables
13:23:13 <McCool> ... so I can let the event team know
13:23:38 <McCool> ... after that can organize "topics" for each table
13:23:45 <McCool> q+
13:23:50 <McCool> ack k
13:24:04 <kaz> ack kaz
13:24:12 <McCool> seb: also was thinking about having another table...
13:24:13 <kaz> qq+ ktoumura
13:25:07 <kaz> ack m
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13:25:24 <fsalama> +q
13:25:25 <McCool> mm: think we should organize tables around themes rather than organizations
13:25:37 <kaz> present+ Roman_Binkert
13:25:40 <McCool> toumura: also planning a demo, but just a small device
13:26:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft mintues
13:26:09 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:26:10 <McCool> seb: what kind of device?
13:26:15 <kaz> s/rrsagent, draft mintues//
13:26:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:26:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:26:40 <kaz> q+
13:26:52 <McCool> seb: protocol?
13:27:06 <McCool> toumura: http for now, but thinking of using 0MQ
13:27:12 <McCool> q+
13:27:28 <McCool> toumura: also a discovery service
13:27:43 <McCool> seb: will create a placeholder for now...
13:27:55 <McCool> ack kt
13:27:55 <Zakim> ktoumura, you wanted to react to kaz
13:28:13 <kaz> s/ktoumura, you wanted to react to kaz//
13:28:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:28:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:28:27 <McCool> fady: the robot arm has its own table...
13:28:43 <McCool> ... event organizers will not need to provide one...
13:28:49 <McCool> ... it is also very big
13:29:12 <McCool> ... safety issues?
13:29:26 <McCool> fady: I would have to be there at all time to watch over the stop button
13:29:37 <sebastian> q?
13:29:40 <sebastian> ack fs
13:29:44 <McCool> ... it has force detection but we should also ensure the area around it is clear
13:29:49 <McCool> ack fs
13:30:06 <McCool> kaz: could fady and romann self-introduce?
13:30:18 <kaz> q-
13:30:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:30:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:30:32 <JKRhb> s/romann/roman/
13:30:41 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:30:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html JKRhb
13:30:48 <McCool> fady: part of WoT since 2021, PhD candidate at TUM
13:31:09 <McCool> ... in final phase of PhD program... so this is a wrapup; Romann is my successor
13:31:28 <JKRhb> s/Romann/Roman/
13:31:32 <McCool> romann: just started at TUM as a PhD student; did Master's on this topic
13:31:39 <JKRhb> s/romann/roman/
13:31:41 <JKRhb> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:31:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html JKRhb
13:32:07 <McCool> mm: (Roman above refers to Roman Binkert)
13:32:28 <sebastian> q?
13:32:32 <sebastian> ack Mc
13:33:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:33:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:33:15 <McCool> mm: Toumura going to start a discovery service?
13:34:03 <kaz> q+
13:34:44 <McCool> mm: ideally we would have one discovery service, as well as having TDs in the github repo
13:36:31 <McCool> ... let's at least create a section on the logistics page for TD registration, archival, discovery, etc.
13:36:53 <McCool> kaz: let's just create a "Discovery and Registration" section
13:37:24 <McCool> seb: ok, mostly empty, will let McCool and others fill in
13:38:32 <McCool> topic: pull requests
13:38:45 <McCool> subtopic: PR#598
13:38:59 <McCool> jan: new TD, is both a consumer and discoverer
13:39:19 <McCool> ... basically an app
13:39:34 <McCool> ... is a conflict, will try to resolve
13:39:45 <McCool> seb: it is just the table, since I did other edits
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13:40:52 <McCool> ... do you need a lot of space, or just a laptop?
13:41:04 <McCool> ... will put you on Table 4 for now...
13:41:18 <McCool> ... are you representing Eclipse?
13:41:19 <kaz> i|new TD|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/598 PR 598 - WoT Week: Add dart_wot app to list of consumers|
13:41:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:41:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:41:58 <McCool> seb: (resolves conflict, commits fix)
13:42:19 <McCool> seb: (merges PR)
13:42:49 <McCool> topic: Table Updated
13:43:00 <McCool> seb: ok, table should be more complete now
13:43:07 <McCool> ... starting to look good
13:43:17 <McCool> ... if people can please provide details as soon as possible
13:43:24 <JKRhb> q+
13:43:28 <McCool> ... very soon we should talk about test scenarios
13:43:37 <McCool> q+
13:43:53 <kaz> q-
13:44:03 <JKRhb> q-
13:45:10 <kaz> i|k, table should|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/blob/main/events/2024.11.Munich/Readme.md WoT Week page|
13:45:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:45:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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13:46:48 <kaz> s/PR#598/PR 598/
13:46:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:46:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:47:54 <kaz> topic: VPN connection
13:48:59 <kaz> q+
13:49:24 <kaz> mm: Toumura-san has set up the VPN and it's working now
13:49:34 <kaz> ... (shows some demo)
13:49:37 <kaz> sk: how to proceed?
13:49:48 <kaz> ... can we share the information?
13:49:56 <kaz> mm: we should not share the password, etc.
13:50:05 <kaz> ack mc
13:50:21 <kaz> i/how to/ek: can also show some next week/
13:50:43 <kaz> mm: let's start with showing the mechanism is working well
13:51:11 <kaz> sk: the password should be shared only to the Plugfest participants
13:51:13 <kaz> mm: right
13:51:14 <kaz> q?
13:51:56 <kaz> ... btw, thinking about more direct connection between the voice UI and the video camera
13:52:01 <kaz> ... working with Josh
13:52:10 <kaz> sk: what about the IP address assignment?
13:52:16 <kaz> mm: good question
13:52:38 <kaz> ... not sure if the DHCP service would be stable enough
13:53:24 <kaz> ... btw, noticed the base address would be more stable
13:53:38 <kaz> ... some unique name for the Plugfest should be used
13:53:54 <kaz> sk: great to see the status
13:54:26 <kaz> ... usually it takes long for us to set up the network configuration for Plugfests
13:54:32 <sebastian> q?
13:55:00 <kaz> mm: ideally would be better to have some directory service, though
13:55:28 <kaz> ek: if people are OK with using static IP addresses, that would be also OK
13:55:55 <kaz> mm: please don't use too generic name for your devices
13:56:22 <kaz> @@@
13:56:37 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Group/group-wot-plugfest/2024Oct/0000.html new ml
13:56:55 <kaz> s/new ml/new ml for Plugfest prep/
13:57:00 <kaz> sk: tx
13:57:10 <kaz> ... one more point is presentation of our demos
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13:57:16 <McCool> topic: Demo Presentations
13:57:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:57:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:57:38 <McCool> seb: opportunites to present demos on stage, also opportunity for posters
13:57:45 <McCool> ... but posters are only A1
13:57:46 <kaz> i/Toumura-san has/scribenick: kaz/
13:57:55 <kaz> i/opportu/scribenick: McCool/
13:57:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:57:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:58:14 <McCool> seb: started working on a poster template... will discuss in Chairs' call
13:59:22 <kaz> s/@@@/kaz: as Sebastian mentioned, this is really nice. and actually, that's why I strongly suggested we set up VPN first :)  BTW, we can use the WoT Plugfest mailing list, which is limited to the Plugfest participants, to share the password, etc./
13:59:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:59:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:59:32 <McCool> seb: last thing, link to conference it open and public, feel free to invite people who may be interested
13:59:43 <McCool> ... link is also on wiki page
13:59:54 <McCool> seb: adjourn
13:59:56 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:59:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
14:00:35 <kaz> [ TD call will start at 10 mins past the hour ]
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