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18:24:14 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
18:24:15 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:24:33 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge (A11yEdge) Community Group Teleconference
18:24:41 <janina> Date: 30 Oct 2024
18:26:34 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:26:47 <janina> agenda+ Welcome and Introductions (As needed)
18:27:20 <janina> agenda+ Capabilities Review https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/
18:27:53 <janina> agenda+ Actions and Next Steps
18:31:09 <janina> present+
18:31:11 <janina> scribe+
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18:36:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
18:36:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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18:38:19 <Mike6> i'm here
18:38:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:38:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Chris
18:38:31 <Mike6> Present+
18:41:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: Regrets for next week 6 Nov, but rest of November should be ok
18:41:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Rest of November ok for me as well
18:41:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: No conflict day before Thanksgiving
18:42:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: That make us clear until the last two weeks of the year which we will likely take off.
18:42:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... likely meet up to and including Dec 18, then resume 8 Jan
18:42:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
18:42:33 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Welcome and Introductions (As needed) -- taken up [from janina]
18:42:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
18:42:43 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
18:42:44 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:42:44 <Zakim> 2. Capabilities Review https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/ [from janina]
18:42:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
18:42:46 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Capabilities Review https://a11yedge.github.io/capabilities/ -- taken up [from janina]
18:48:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Reading the document
18:48:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... heading 1.5 should be 2.0
18:48:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... correction: 1.4
18:52:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we are looking at the "heading 2's" in the intro section
18:52:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: We likely do not want the word 'edge' in the section
18:53:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I agree, the heading could be better as 'defining scope'
18:53:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> Mike6: Edge is just vernacular
18:53:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: People expect scope at the opening of a w3c document
18:56:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Sharing the diagram in https://www.w3.org/community/a11yedge/2023/05/18/interest-in-our-work-is-growing/
18:56:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... top would be labeled "source" or "source content"
18:56:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the right cloud Post-Source Service
18:56:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... at the bottom, user
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19:04:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
19:07:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Regarding the diagram, i think singular "user" is more powerful than "users"
19:14:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The group brainstormed about the proposed diagram
19:14:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... decided: The top and bottom should reflect the highly accepted server/client pattern, so we added those labels
19:15:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> .... decided: the bottom should say, in as few words a spossible, that we acknowledge that the user's side is a diverse place c potentially composed
19:16:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... of many tools such as browser, browser extension, aassistive technology, devices, screens, etc
19:18:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: For 'Post source services', is services the right word? Enhancements, improvements is more illustriative
19:18:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: I value the discussion clarifying what exactly are these post-source services. Enhacement, improvement
19:19:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... remediation is also appropriate
19:19:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... but services is an apt generic label for the diagram, and then the text can go into more detail on the nature of those services
19:20:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> chris: usability is also a relevant word
19:21:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Changes instead of services
19:21:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Adaptations is a more
19:22:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... used word in the accessibility field
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19:33:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: I can write a statement for "scope" and "automatability"
19:34:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I will send the diagram to Janina for inclusion
19:34:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... with a caption
19:34:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
19:34:19 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Chris, Mike, Jason
19:34:21 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:34:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/30-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:34:31 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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19:35:11 <janina> rrsagent, bye
19:35:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items