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14:58:33 <john> Meeting: Invisble XML Community Group
14:58:40 <john> chair: steven
14:58:54 <Steven> Meeting: ixml Group Teleconference
14:59:00 <Steven> s/Meeting: ixml Group Teleconference//
14:59:37 <john> s/Invible/Invisible/
14:59:42 <john> s/Invisble/Invisible/
14:59:53 <john> p[resent: norm, steven, john
15:00:13 <Steven> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/10/15-ixml-minutes.html
15:00:15 <norm> John, David gives regrets for today
15:00:35 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Oct/0010
15:01:12 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:01:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/29-ixml-minutes.html Steven
15:01:31 <john> present:norm, steven,bethan, john
15:01:48 <Steven> s/p[/p/
15:02:12 <john> regrets:david
15:03:06 <john> Topic:Previsous Actions
15:03:23 <john> s/Previsous/Previous/
15:04:19 <john> 2024-08-06-a, SP to draft a PR to address [1]#263
15:04:19 <john>        (serialization of attributes) - Continues (access token expired)
15:04:42 <john> 2023-01-10-f: NTW to produce draft documentation of the XML
15:04:42 <john>        vocabulary (see [2]#137) - see later
15:05:15 <john> 2024-03-05-c: SP to prepare pull request to resolve issue
15:05:15 <john>        [3]#139 (new grammars, new README). - Work done - pull request outstanding
15:05:39 <john> 2024-03-19-a: SP to contact W3C to get the report links fixed
15:05:39 <john>           + NTW: The broken link no longer appears, AFAICT. I suggest we
15:05:39 <john>             close this issue, and related issues, and back away slowly. - Norm can't find the broken link. CLOSED
15:05:51 <john> 2024-04-30-a: NTW to propose wording for possible changes to
15:05:53 <john>        status reporting, with particular respect to reporting of iXML
15:05:53 <john>        version used by processor. DONE
15:10:20 <john> 2024-04-30-b: Bethan to open an issue on whether to adopt a
15:10:20 <john>        scheme to distinguish 'major' from 'minor' versions in version
15:10:20 <john>        numbers. CONTINUES
15:10:33 <john> 2024-10-01-a: NTW to add XSLT Forms implementation to the
15:10:33 <john>        website DONE
15:10:56 <john> 2024-10-01-b: SP to try out renaming as a string NEEDS PR
15:11:14 <john> 2024-10-01-c: NTW to describe the discrepancy between iXML
15:11:14 <john>        names and XML names DONE
15:11:24 <john> 2024-10-01-d: NTW to make sure pragmas are on the agenda DONE
15:11:35 <john> 2024-10-01-e: SP to review ixml tests and correct the grammar CONTINUES
15:11:58 <john> 2024-10-01-f: SP to make a PR for both versions of the RFC
15:11:58 <john>        grammar CONTINUES
15:12:08 <john> ???: SP? to make a PR to fix [4]#250, alias delimiter ">"
15:12:08 <john>        should be hidden CONTINUES
15:12:22 <john> Topic: Status Reports
15:13:25 <john> Implement string renaming. Recasting the implementation in Typscript
15:14:32 <john> norm: fixed a ranme attribute bug
15:15:00 <Steven> s/ranme/rename/
15:18:11 <john> Topic: Review of change proposals
15:20:12 <john> norm: iXML version fix for #271 - iXML version attribute replacing @version-mismatch. https://invisiblexml.org/pr/275/autodiff.html
15:21:55 <john> Agreed to accept
15:22:16 <john> norm: Fix section title: iXML in XML - DONE
15:22:50 <john> norm: Add prose to allow user selection of start symbol - Accepted DONE
15:23:13 <john> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:23:47 <john> Topic: Open issues
15:25:19 <john> subtopic: Use pragmas for the prolog?
15:25:48 <john> steven: not against and sees some benefit
15:26:24 <john> norm: pragmas can be used by implementors for experimentation.
15:27:15 <john> norm: pragmas in the spec should not change the behaviour of the grammar and parse
15:28:06 <john> norm: but it could e.g. alter the performance, such as regular expressions.
15:35:56 <john> norm: what do pragmas apply to - what is their locality of scope. E.g. run very fast for 'rule 17' or ther is a regex you can use.
15:36:22 <john> s/ther/here/
15:38:20 <john> norm: can we come to common understanding of the scope of possible pragmas, such as can they be not just applied to a grammar as a whole.
15:39:24 <norm> Consider: {[A]} S: a.
15:40:31 <norm> The Balisage pragma's proposal uses {[+A]} for the pragma applies to the whole grammar.
15:43:31 <john> Agreed to think a bit more about this.
15:44:30 <john> ACTION: john - more detail on subtraction operator
15:45:06 <john> next meeting: 12th November
15:45:14 <john> rrsagent, publish minutes
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