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18:04:27 <Zakim> Meeting: ARIA Authoring Practices Task Force
18:05:01 <Jem> scribe:Jemma
18:05:46 <Jem> rrsagent, generate meeting minutes
18:05:46 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'generate meeting minutes', Jem.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:05:58 <Jem> rrsagent, make minutes
18:05:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/29-aria-apg-minutes.html Jem
18:06:15 <dmontalvo> rsagent, draft minutes
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18:07:45 <Jem> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/October-29%2C-2024-Agenda
18:08:04 <Jem> Topic: Setup and review agenda
18:08:29 <Jem> Topic: Next meeting date is November 5
18:08:46 <dmontalvo> Regrets from me that week
18:08:55 <Adam_Page> present+
18:08:58 <Jem> Topic: Publication plannning
18:09:06 <dmontalvo> present+ Daniel
18:09:07 <Jem> s/plannning/planning
18:10:07 <CurtBellew> present+
18:10:45 <Jem> adam and daniel will check the publication to see whether all the links are correct.
18:11:47 <Adam_Page> Confirmed: the Tooltip Pattern shows the update on production: https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/apg/patterns/tooltip/#:~:text=If%20the%20tooltip,or%20the%20tooltip.
18:12:01 <Jem> We would liek to know whether the second or third week of december will be available for boucoup and W3c team.
18:12:12 <Jem> s/liek/like/
18:12:22 <Jem> December 10 may be better than Dec 17
18:12:45 <Jem> Dec 12 also works.
18:12:52 <Jem> dmontalvo:
18:13:04 <Jem> we don't need to publish only on Tuesday
18:13:27 <Jem> dmontalvo: I will let you know after the checking the publication date on Dec
18:13:44 <Jem> Topic: PR 3139 - Scrollable listbox fix
18:13:55 <Jem> github:https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/3139
18:15:48 <Jem> mck: This is ready to review and added the checklist
18:16:17 <Jem> ..it touches only two files, html and js
18:17:06 <Jem> arie: one testing failed, snapshot issue.
18:20:02 <Jem> jem: assertion error for aria-selected.
18:20:13 <Jem> jon will do code and testing review
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18:22:41 <Jem> Topic: New Skipto Scroll Preview Options
18:23:01 <Jem> feedback is available from https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/3147#issuecomment-2429994345
18:24:16 <Jem> github:https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/3147
18:24:44 <Jem> one of the feedback was to slow down the motion
18:24:58 <Jem> ..with option
18:25:36 <Jem> reduce motion is not getting any scroll.
18:26:01 <Jem> reduce/jon:reduced/
18:26:49 <Jem> adam: I am skeptical to add the skip to everywhere in the hilton site but it can be super useful.
18:27:25 <Jem> ...navigating the screen will turn off the scroll option.
18:27:35 <Jem> three options - 1. no scroll at all
18:28:04 <Jem> 2. smooth scroll only
18:29:23 <Jem> Jon: changing the scroll timing will be difficult. the browser controls the time.
18:29:51 <Jem> ..I can look into the way to change the scroll time in CSS.
18:30:51 <Jem> adam: you are right, jon. once you do set up in js, the browser will take care of the rest of timing
18:30:56 <Jem> arie: agreed
18:31:42 <Matt_King> I think there could be 4 options for the skipTo script:
18:31:44 <Matt_King> 1. never scroll
18:31:45 <Matt_King> 2. Instant scroll only, no scroll if reduced motion.
18:31:47 <Matt_King> 3. smooth scroll only, no scroll if reduced motion.
18:31:48 <Matt_King> 4. smooth default, instant scroll if reduced motion
18:31:59 <Jem> Adam: the scroll that happened before I activated the link. It was a surprise, although I am not motion-sensitive.
18:35:45 <Jem> jon: I am thinking how much effort I should add to this..
18:37:26 <Jem> adam: I see the value of the skip to and the browser implemented this decade ago. There are some cases which is super helpful like in wikipedia - long page but some of the commercial site may not need those because it is short.
18:38:06 <Jem> and marketing focused.
18:39:48 <Jem> Jon: I got feedback that smooth is worst or instant scrolling is more receptive to the group of people I talked to.
18:40:21 <Jem> jon: there is also the browser version.
18:40:54 <jongund> https://skipto-landmarks-headings.github.io/page-script-5/browsers.html
18:41:53 <Jem> curt: we also use some skip to feature to some of our site, but not for all.
18:43:08 <Jem> Topic: High Contrast guidance update
18:43:40 <Jem> jon: I made the update but I cannot get it work to preview url.
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18:47:32 <Jem> jon: added svg for components
18:49:18 <Jem> .. the multiple changes are seen here. https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/2991/files
18:50:59 <Jem> Jon: I picked the switch example to talk about the svg example.
18:57:10 <Jem> rrsagent, make minutes
18:57:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/29-aria-apg-minutes.html Jem
18:57:27 <Jem> Arie fixed the preview link and pushed the preview link.
18:57:30 <Jem> rrsagent, make minutes
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