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12:51:36 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:51:39 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
12:52:02 <jasonjgw> present+
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12:52:38 <jasonjgw> agena+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
12:52:49 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
12:53:12 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
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13:04:53 <jasonjgw> zakim, take up item 2
13:04:53 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:05:28 <scott_h> janina: Josh to return to support AI work,
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13:06:44 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:06:44 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, scott_h, janina
13:06:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, kirkwood, JPaton, scott_h, RRSAgent, Zakim, jasonjgw, alastairc, Rachael, gb, Roy_Ruoxi
13:07:28 <jasonjgw> zakim, take up item 1
13:07:28 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:08:30 <janina> https://github.com/w3c/ctaur/issues/73
13:08:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/ctaur/issues/73 -> Issue 73 Keep it simple with as few steps as possible - user need 20 (by lseeman)
13:09:01 <scott_h> janina: can accept, bsic principle
13:10:32 <scott_h> jason: need to be careful about the word 'clear'
13:10:46 <scott_h> some edtiorw rok but can include
13:10:59 <scott_h> janin: happy to do daft
13:11:40 <scott_h> janina happy to do draft for all changes, Jason offer ot review
13:12:17 <scott_h> janina: belongs together with previous
13:13:09 <scott_h> scott: do we want to link back to WCAG SC
13:14:57 <scott_h> jason: accept in princple but somew ork needed
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13:18:13 <scott_h> jason: ihow aobut indicate prominently on the UI that these things are active , satus line
13:18:36 <scott_h> janina: auto timeout without activity to avoid monopolising editing
13:19:15 <scott_h> agreed that we wno't remove these items, but will add note on teh requirements above
13:19:26 <RajaKushalnagar> Status bars are an expected component in all UIs
13:20:29 <scott_h> janina: user-invokved perhaps
13:20:54 <scott_h> raja: standard has lmitedinformaiton on this
13:21:39 <scott_h> janina: a status that someone has been invoked the lock temporarily woudl resolve,
13:22:10 <scott_h> agrred clarifying note to be added
13:23:42 <scott_h> jason: concern that WSIWYG removes tools that don't use it
13:25:09 <scott_h> scott: shoudl be tool-agnostic,
13:25:23 <scott_h> janina: yes APIs suport interfaces
13:25:48 <scott_h> agreed will not fix
13:28:58 <scott_h> janina: don't know how the machine cna know why
13:29:14 <scott_h> user can add it, but machine can't
13:29:22 <scott_h> so can't require of vendors
13:30:01 <scott_h> jason: unlikely somsone woudl constantly explain their reasoning for changes
13:30:27 <scott_h> janain: metadata for status of author and time, but not the wy
13:31:06 <scott_h> agreed to partially accept
13:33:08 <scott_h> agreed that we need some clarify on the action for this
13:34:45 <scott_h> janina: if there's multiple user-selectable ways on proposed edits line by line woudl e good
13:34:48 <scott_h> superior guidance
13:35:20 <scott_h> jason: colour alone WCAG issue
13:35:28 <scott_h> janina: multipel ways should address it
13:35:50 <scott_h> user configuraiotn options
13:36:38 <scott_h> agreed to action
13:38:26 <scott_h> jason: coud accept this
13:38:45 <scott_h> user need 12
13:38:54 <scott_h> agreed: yes accept
13:39:46 <scott_h> janina: good principle ot have AI generated noted as such
13:40:22 <scott_h> soctt: good to delcare, like sponsored links are declared
13:43:22 <scott_h> test
13:44:08 <scott_h> janina: metadata can log who made teh change
13:44:18 <scott_h> jason: check if related to earleir issue
13:44:33 <scott_h> may be a duplicate
13:48:46 <scott_h> janina: support the general principle
13:48:56 <scott_h> scott: I think it's covered already
13:51:19 <scott_h> agreed to defer to assess if its already present
13:53:20 <scott_h> janina: antoher isue for deferring
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13:55:36 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:55:36 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, scott_h, janina
13:55:37 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:55:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/16-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:55:46 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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