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19:05:42 <yonet> Chair: yonet
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19:06:40 <bajones> One sec. Mic issues
19:06:44 <yonet> item: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/6
19:07:17 <Leonard> 1: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/6
19:07:29 <yonet> topic: https://github.com/immersive-web/depth-sensing/pull/50
19:07:40 <Leonard> Brandon: Has not had a chance to bring issue up to WebGPU WG meeting
19:08:15 <Leonard> Rik: #2: https://github.com/immersive-web/depth-sensing/pull/50
19:09:01 <Leonard> ... Add array (extend API) to allow for lower frame rate texture generation
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19:09:39 <Leonard> ... No resolution during TPAC. Need to determine the option(s) needed to be added to the dictionary to make this work in a variety of situations
19:10:23 <Leonard> ... Likely to pick an solution that is more complex to allow greater range of options. No candidate yet.
19:10:27 <bialpio> q+
19:10:47 <yonet> ack bialpio
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19:11:03 <Leonard> bialpio: Feels that a single PR is better than (Rik
19:11:08 <cabanier> q+
19:11:37 <Leonard> ... 's multiple PR suggestion) because the s/w is currently shipping
19:12:25 <Leonard> ... No strong suggestion for name. Several come to mind, but no preferences ATM.
19:12:39 <yonet> ack cabanier
19:12:49 <bajones> "unprojected depth" or similar sounds reasonable to me.
19:13:01 <bialpio> q+
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19:13:44 <Leonard> Rik: Believes that this change is not breaking. <lots of speculation on names>
19:13:46 <bajones> "synchronizedDepth"?
19:14:18 <yonet> ack bialpio
19:15:17 <Leonard> bialpio: If XRView is never going to be populated, then change is not breaking. Advocates delaying updates so that XRView does not need to be populated
19:15:26 <yonet> ack Brandel
19:16:19 <Leonard> Brandel: Encourage that the name being as descriptive as possible -- looking out 15+ years
19:16:34 <Leonard> [general agreement]
19:17:28 <bajones> Potential last second topic: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/13
19:17:37 <bajones> Mostly to raise awareness
19:17:50 <Leonard> Rik: Update PR because people seem OK with proposal.
19:18:02 <Leonard> scribnik Leonard
19:20:24 <Leonard> Rik & Aysegul: Propose 'synchronizedDepthBuffer' as the name
19:20:36 <yonet> topic: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/13
19:20:48 <Leonard> Brandon: Topic from above and last minute...
19:21:45 <Leonard> ... Discussion on GitHub with WebGPU/WebGL bindings with respect to the shape of the API bindings. Currently using a "side texture"
19:22:20 <Leonard> ... (above should be WebGPU/WebXR)
19:23:01 <Leonard> ... Looking for devices where this decision would cause problems - https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/13
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19:23:31 <yonet> ack Leonard
19:23:37 <Leonard> q+
19:23:44 <yonet> ack cabanier
19:24:32 <Leonard> Rik: Good with this.
19:24:50 <Leonard> ... Is there support for MultiView in WebGPU
19:25:00 <MikeW> q+
19:25:27 <Leonard> Brandon: Not ATM. Some extensions in the overlying s/w are there, but not WebGPU level.
19:25:32 <yonet> ack MikeW
19:25:49 <Leonard> MikeW: Open issue for WebGPU to add MultiView handling
19:26:03 <yonet> ack Leonard
19:26:16 <cabanier> scribenick: cabanier
19:26:36 <cabanier> Leonard: I was asked about following up with body poses and hand tracking
19:26:53 <cabanier> ... and I talked to Brandon Jones
19:27:20 <cabanier> bajones: I don't remember discussing body and hand pose
19:27:44 <cabanier> Leonard: openxr wants cooperation but they don't want to block us
19:27:56 <cabanier> ... whoever does the path, they will be happy to follow
19:28:06 <cabanier> ... I will go back and check with ????
19:28:11 <cabanier> ... this thursday
19:28:28 <cabanier> yonet: they are welcome to come to our meeting
19:28:44 <cabanier> q+
19:28:54 <yonet> ack cabanier
19:29:40 <cabanier> Leonard: there's some group discussion on body tracking
19:29:54 <cabanier> ... I wanted to make sure that the groups didn't go in perpendicular directions
19:30:07 <cabanier> bajones: arkit has a skeletal model
19:30:18 <cabanier> ... mirroring makes it easier
19:30:25 <cabanier> ... there may be different joint counts
19:30:46 <cabanier> ... and see how we can transpose pose to make the models match
19:31:03 <cabanier> Leonard: one of the problems is that there are over a dozen different body standards
19:31:13 <cabanier> ... unfortunately, there is no movement to reduce that
19:31:30 <cabanier> ... maybe the things to is to bring up in the metaverse standards group
19:31:48 <cabanier> ... I think this will be a big enough issue for everyone to agree on
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19:40:22 <yonet> rrsagent, make minutes public
19:40:22 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', yonet.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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23:59:59 <scribe> meeting: Immersive Web WG/CG bi-weekly call
23:59:59 <scribe> agenda: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/2024/2024-10-15-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
23:59:59 <scribe> previous meeting: https://github.com/immersive-web/administrivia/blob/main/meetings/2024/2024-08-05-Immersive_Web_Working_Group_Teleconference-agenda.md
23:59:59 <scribe> i/Brandon: Has not had a chance/scribe+ Leonard
23:59:59 <scribe> s|item: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/6||
23:59:59 <scribe> s|1: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/6||
23:59:59 <scribe> s|topic: https://github.com/immersive-web/depth-sensing/pull/50|topic: Add XRView to XRDepthInformation (immersive-web/depth-sensing#50)
23:59:59 <scribe> s/scribnik Leonard//
23:59:59 <scribe> s/Rik & Aysegul: Propose /RESOLUTION: Rik & Aysegul: Propose /
23:59:59 <scribe> s|opic: https://github.com/immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding/issues/13|Guarantees about layer texture shape (immersive-web/WebXR-WebGPU-Binding#13)