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13:28:07 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly XForms
13:28:42 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Oct/0007
13:29:01 <Steven> Meeting: XForms Group Weekly Teleconference
13:29:01 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:29:01 <Steven> Previous Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2024/10/04-forms-minutes
13:29:20 <Steven> RRSAgent, make minutes
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14:00:10 <Steven> Topic: ACTION: Steven spec text for 'initial' MIP
14:00:11 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Oct/0006
14:01:13 <Steven> Steven: I have made the change, and will add it to the spec if it is OK
14:01:19 <Steven> Erik: I still want more
14:02:06 <Steven> Steven: My mistake, it should read *initial* model item properties
14:02:21 <Steven> ... I'll fix that and add it to the spec.
14:02:32 <Steven> Topic: ACTION: Erik to report evaluating vars in model
14:02:33 <Steven> https://www.w3.org/2024/10/04-forms-minutes.html#6c49
14:03:32 <Steven> Steven: I think we can add it to the model, and recalculate it during recalculate
14:04:01 <ebruchez> <ar name="foo" value="..."/>
14:04:12 <Steven> s/ar/var/
14:04:12 <ebruchez> <bind ref="$foo">"
14:04:44 <Steven> Erik: We allow this in our implementation
14:05:17 <ebruchez> <var name="foo" value="instance('foo')"/>
14:05:55 <ebruchez> bind()
14:06:32 <ebruchez> <var name="bar" value="2"/>
14:06:53 <ebruchez> <bind ref="elem[$bar]">"
14:12:54 <Steven> Steven: What is the problem with recalculating during a recalculate?
14:14:09 <Steven> Erik: rebuild comes first, and may use variables, so the variables need to be updated before rebuild
14:15:32 <Steven> Steven: So a rebuild needs to update the vars and then rebuild, and a recalculate also has to update the vars
14:15:50 <Steven> Erik: Yes, for instance if the vars use the bind() function
14:16:26 <Steven> Steven: So you still have the action item
14:16:48 <Steven> Alain: can you access the model vars in the bosy?
14:16:54 <Steven> Erik: Yes, I think so
14:17:03 <Steven> s/bosy/body/
14:17:33 <Steven> Erik: The disadvantage comes when you have two models with the same var name
14:18:08 <Steven> Alain: Maybe a function for model vars?
14:18:18 <Steven> Erik: A possibility
14:19:02 <Steven> ... a var() function
14:19:19 <Steven> ... or an export facility for vars in the model
14:19:44 <Steven> Steven: <var visibile="true" value="..."/>
14:19:53 <Steven> s/bile/ble
14:21:31 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:21:36 <Steven> [None]
14:22:24 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:22:32 <Steven> Present: Alain, Erik, Steven
14:22:40 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:22:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/11-forms-minutes.html Steven
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